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Trying to confirm Dorothy Johnson & Albert Porter

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looby04

looby04 Report 18 Nov 2012 02:37

Hello all,

Really stuck on this. Dorothy & Albert were married just after the 1911 census, and because their children (one of which was my Grandad Alexander) were born after this time, I can't be sure that the people I have found with the same names and birth dates are actually them.
I know very little about them, but I've listed what I know below:
Albert James Porter, b.1893 in West Ham, London. d. in Leyton. My Uncle's Tree states that Albert was a Dockworker / Meat Porter in later life.
Dorothy Johnson, b.1892. I think her middle initial might be L.

Can anyone advise how I might be able to verify the individuals I have found so far?

Many thanks, Looby

jax

jax Report 18 Nov 2012 02:56

For info

Marriages Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Johnson Dorothy L West Ham 4a 660
Porter Albert W.Ham 4a 660

jax

jax Report 18 Nov 2012 03:01

Maybe you need the marriage cert for his age and occupation at the time plus his fathers name and occupation

jax

jax Report 18 Nov 2012 03:06

??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Dorothy L Porter
Name: Dorothy L Porter
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1961
Age at Death: 71
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 278


Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: JOHNSON, Dorothy Louise
Address: 110 Howard Road Walthamstow

JOHNSON, George John Head M 50 1861 Retired Postal Overseer Hampshire Southampton VIEW
JOHNSON, Amy Agnes Wife Married9 years F 33 1878 London Stamford Hill VIEW
JOHNSON, Dorothy Louise Daughter Single F 21 1890 Laundrymaid London Stoke Newington VIEW
JOHNSON, Winifred Amy Violet Daughter F 9 1902 Essex East Ham VIEW
JOHNSON, Ivy Mary Ann Daughter F 6 1905 Essex East Ham VIEW
JOHNSON, Rose Agnes Daughter F 4 1907 Essex Leyton VIEW
JOHNSON, Margaret May Daughter F 2 1909 Essex Walthamstow VIEW
JOHNSON, Maud Gabrielle Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Essex Walthamstow VIEW

jax

jax Report 18 Nov 2012 03:11

??

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Dorothy Louise Johnson
Name: Dorothy Louise Johnson
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1890
Father's Name: George John Johnson
Mother's Name: Amelia Maria Johnson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St Peter
Borough: Islington
Register Type: Parish Registers


Household transcription
1891 census

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Person: JOHNSON, Dorothy L
Address: 53, Barretts Grove, Stoke Newington, London
JOHNSON, George J Head Married M 30 1861 Clerk P O Telegraph
Southampton, Hampshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Amelia M Wife Married F 26 1865
Clerkenwell, London VIEW
JOHNSON, George E Son M 5 1886
Stoke Newington, London VIEW
JOHNSON, Frederick G Son M 3 1888
Dalston, London VIEW
JOHNSON, Dorothy L Daughter F 1 1890
Dalston, London VIEW


Although this fits...without confirmation of the father its only a guess

jax

jax Report 18 Nov 2012 03:27

Is this his death?

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Albert J Porter
Name: Albert J Porter
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 5a
Page: 200

No middle inital when he married


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Albert James Porter
Name: Albert James Porter
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1893
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 358 (click to see others on page)

looby04

looby04 Report 18 Nov 2012 10:49

Thanks so much for helping me, Jax!
I really appreciate you doing all that research.
I will try to get hold of the marriage certificate to see if I can confirm some of your findings. I'll keep you posted!
Many thanks! :-)

Flip

Flip Report 18 Nov 2012 12:07

I think Jax's death is correct - here is his probate:

Albert James Porter
Probate Date: 14 Mar 1962
Death Date: 12 Jan 1962
Death Place: London, England
Registry: London, England

States of 100 High Road E10, admin to Arthur Leonard Porter (painter) and Alexander John Porter (metal polisher). Effects £615 8s

looby04

looby04 Report 18 Nov 2012 17:12

Omg! Thank you so much Flip. That's a great bit of info! :0)

David

David Report 30 Oct 2016 07:54

i have also noticed looby04 that in the interest of recent tree lines, unsure how we might know each other but the grant line you posess as well relating to my tree... might be able to shed some light

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 30 Oct 2016 12:31

Name: George John Johnson*********Civil Service Clerk
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 24
Spouse: Amelia Maria Goldsmith
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1884
Parish: St Peter, Clerkenwell
Borough: Islington
Father Name: George Johnson<<<<<Postman
Spouse Father: Edward Goldsmith<<<<<Account Book Ruler
Register Type: Parish Register

His address 353 Compton Buildings and her address 354 Compton Buildings.
Witnesses Edward Goldsmith and Jane Jones.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Oct 2016 18:43

1939 Register with dates of birth.


Parter Household (5 People) 60 Holloway Road , Leyton M.B., Essex, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Albert J Parter 30 Jul 1893 Male Labourer Cold Air Flora & Wharf Widowed 18 1
Dorothy L Parter 04 Nov 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 18 2
Albert G Porter 12 Mar 1912 Male Cinema Attendant Single 18 3
Alexander J Porter 06 Mar 1919 Male Mental Polisher Single 18 4
Arthur L Porter 04 Aug 1926 Male At School Single 18 6


There are a few mistakes. The name is Porter.

Albert J is married and is a Labourer (Cold air store and wharf)

His birth date could be 30 Jan 1893.


Oh and Alexander J is a METAL polisher!


There is one officially closed record.

greyghost

greyghost Report 30 Oct 2016 18:51

David, it's 4 years since looby04 posted - you could try to send her a Personal message by clicking on her name. GR will notify her of your message to her, if she has the same email address as she registered with them. Then you have to hope she replies - many reasons why she might not.

alviegal

alviegal Report 30 Oct 2016 18:56

AAGGHH! Thanks greyghost, I didn't even notice the date.