Census 1911:
Address: 5 St Brannock's Road Ilfracombe County: Devonshire
MANSFIELD, Charles L B Head Married 8 years M 38 1873 Ironmonger Brayford Devon MANSFIELD, Beatrice M Wife Married 8 years F 31 1880 Home Cambemartar Devon MANSFIELD, Cecil B Son M 7 1904 At School Ilfracombe Devon MANSFIELD, Ruth K Daughter F 4 1907 At School Ilfracombe Devon RICE, Alice M Visitor Married F 43 1868 Home Plumstead Kent
CHILDREN:
Births Mar 1904 MANSFIELD Lindley Cecil B Barnstaple 5b 422
Births Jun 1906 Mansfield Ruth Kathleen Barnstaple 5b 422
Born after 1911:
Births Sep 1912 Mansfield Beatrice M Bennett Barnstaple 5b 733
Births Sep 1914 Mansfield Faith R Bennett Barnstaple 5b 773
Births Mar 1919 Mansfield John C Bennett Barnstaple 5b 535
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Possible baptism for James Mansfield, father of James John?
census 1851 says born c1810 Devonport.
"Stoke, also referred to by its earlier name of Stoke Damerel, is a parish, that was once part of the historical Devonport, England; "
Forename(s): James Surname: Mansfield Year: 1809 Month: Feb Day: 05 Father's Forename: John Mother's Forename: Esther Mother's Surname: Birth Day: 23 Birth Month: Jan Birth Year: 1809 Dedication: Stoke Damerel Place: Plymouth County: Devon Page: 92 Archive Ref: 166/9 Notes:
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Possible marriage for James and Jane Mansfield (census 1851 says she was born Exeter c1811)
Groom's Surname: Mansfield Groom's Forename: James Bride's Surname: Dyer Bride's Forename: Jane Turner Year: 1830 Month: Jul Day: 17 Parish: St Sidwell Town Or City: Exeter County: Devon Entry No.: Notes: Record source: Devon Marriages - Transcripts
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James and Jane in 1841 with family including infant James [John]:
Reg. District: St Thomas Sub District: Exmouth<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Parish: Withycombe Rawleigh Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Parade, Withycombe Rawleigh County: Devonshire
MANSFIELD, James M 30 1811 Devon Schoolmaster MANSFIELD, James M 0 (10 months) 1841 Devon<<<<<< MANSFIELD, Jane F 30 1811 Devon MANSFIELD, Robert M 8 1833 Devon MANSFIELD, Charlotte F 2 1839 Devon DYER, Selina F 25 1816 Devon DAVIES, Emma F 25 1816 Devon
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Colin pmed to say Charles Lindley Bridgman Mansfield was Lindley Charles Bridgman's son.
Just another family snippet.
Mary Ann Bridgman, daur of William and Elizabeth, baptised 24 Dec 1822 (see page one of this thread) evidently married..
census 1871:
name: Susan Bridgman <<<<<<<<<< event: Census event date: 1871 gender: Female age: 50 relationship to head of household: Sister-in-law <<<<<<<<<<<< birthplace: Barnstaple, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Exeter sub-district: St David event parish: St David county: Devonshire Household Gender Age Birthplace
self William Challice M 47 Morchard Bishop, Devonshire wife Mary A Challice F 46 Barnstaple, Devonshire <<<<<<<<<<<< daughter Sarah J Challice F 9 Exeter, Devonshire daughter Kate Challice F 6 Exeter, Devonshire sister-in-law Susan Bridgman F 50 Barnstaple, Devonshire <<<<<<<< sister-in-law Eliza Bridgman F 48 Barnstaple, Devonshire <<<<<<<<<< servant Matilda Parker F 24 Exeter, Devonshire
Marriages Mar 1861 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bridgman Mary Ann Barnstaple 5B 796 CHALLICE William Barnstaple 5b 796
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It may not be relevant, but I earlier posted this potential baptism for William Bridgman at Bideford in 1788 (there was also an alternative candidate baptised Jan 1789 with parents Richard and Margaret).
name: William Bridgeman gender: Male baptism/christening date: 30 Mar 1788 baptism/christening place: BIDEFORD,DEVON,ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: John Bridgeman father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Jane mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: C05032-1 system origin: England-ODM
According to family search John and Jane have other children born Bideford ; Jenny 7th jan 1785, John 20th Mar 1791 and Virtue 24th Nov 1793.
However a John and Jane Bridgman have at least two children baptised at Barnstaple.
The question is, are they the same couple, or two different ones?
name: Ann Bridgman gender: Female baptism/christening date: 27 May 1781 baptism/christening place: BARNSTAPLE,DEVON,ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: John Bridgman father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Jane mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: P00574-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0962417 IT 1
name: James Bridgman gender: Male baptism/christening date: 17 Jan 1800 baptism/christening place: BARNSTAPLE,DEVON,ENGLAND birth date: birthplace: death date: name note: race: father's name: John Bridgman father's birthplace: father's age: mother's name: Jane mother's birthplace: mother's age: indexing project (batch) number: P00574-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 0962417 IT 1
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In addition to the first James John born 1835 died 1836, it looks like James and Jane Mansfield lost at least two more children.
Surname: Mansfield Forenames: Mary Jane Father's Forename: James Mother's Forename: Jane Father's Occupation: Schoolmaster Year: 1834 Month: Mar Day: 31 Abode: Exmouth In Withecombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Baptisms - Transcripts
Died:
Surname: Mansfield Forename: Maria Jane Age: 5 Weeks Year: 1834 Month: Aug Day: 6 Notes: Of Exmouth In Withycombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Burials - Transcripts
(should it be 5 months not 5 weeks?)
Surname: Mansfield Forenames: Mary Elizabeth Father's Forename: James Mother's Forename: Jane Father's Occupation: Schoolmaster Year: 1836 Month: Aug Day: 10 Abode: Exmouth In Withecombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Baptisms - Transcripts
Died:
Surname: Mansfield Forename: Mary Elizabeth Age: 10 Months Year: 1837 Month: Jun Day: 9 Notes: Of Exmouth In Withycombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Burials - Transcripts
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These two below survived to census 1841 when they are with James, Jane and baby James [John] as posted earlier in the thread.
Surname: Mansfield Forenames: Robert William Father's Forename: James Mother's Forename: Jane Father's Occupation: Schoolmaster Year: 1833 Month: Feb Day: 5 Abode: Exmouth In Withecombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Baptisms - Transcripts
Surname: Mansfield Forenames: Charlotte Elizabeth Father's Forename: James Mother's Forename: Jane Father's Occupation: Schoolmaster Year: 1838 Month: Jul Day: 22 Abode: Exmouth In Withecombe Parish: Withycombe Raleigh Town Or City: County: Devon Record source: Devon Baptisms - Transcripts
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I have sent a PM to poster advising how to get back to his thread.
He has replied by PM to me but not back on here yet......
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I have a Dennis Bridgman Born about 1930 in My tree married to my Aunt in Manchester I dont know if he is connected to yours. David
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I have a Dennis Bridgman Born about 1930 in I dont know his place of birth though My tree married to my Aunt in Manchester I dont know if he is connected to yours. David
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Name: James John Mansfield Probate Date: 19 Sep 1917 Death Date: 28 Jul 1917 Death Place: Devon, England Registry: London, England
of 99 High Street Ilfracombe Devonshire .Probate London to Charles Lindley Bridgman Mansfield ironmonger. Effects £6779 5s 6d.
Name: Maria Baker Mansfield Probate Date: 27 Apr 1911 Death Date: 5 Apr 1911 Death Place: Devonshire, England Registry: London, England
of 99 High st Ilfracombe Devonshire (wife of James John Mansfield). Probate London to the same James John Mansfield ironmonger. Effects £764 18s 7d
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Can't help wondering if Lionel Bridgman, who was also with the Mansfields as their nephew in 1891, was Charles Lindley's brother or just a cousin.
He too became an ironmonger like his uncle, and so did his son.
Census 1901:
Address: 4, Alfred Cottage, Crown Road, Sutton County: Surrey Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born BRIDGMAN, Lionel Head Married M 26 1875 Ironmonger's Assistant Near Barnstaple, Devonshire BRIDGMAN, Ellen Blanch Wife Married F 28 1873 Ilfracombe, Devonshire BRIDGMAN, Lionel John Son M 0 (5 MOS) 1901 Ilfracombe, Devonshire
Census 1911:
Address: 2 High Street Sutton Surrey County: Surrey
BRIDGMAN, Lionel Head Married M 36 1875 Ironmonger Manager High Bray Devon BRIDGMAN, Ellen Blanche Wife Married 14 years F 38 1873 Ilfracombe Devon BRIDGMAN, Christine Annetta Daughter F 13 1898 School Scarborough Yorks BRIDGMAN, John Lionel Son M 10 1901 School Ilfracombe Devon GARRETT, Eva Gertrude Boarder Single F 28 1883 Assistant Teacher Elementary School Bournemouth Hants SHARLAND, Alice Maud Boarder Single F 23 1888 Assistant Teacher Elementary Bromley Kent
Marriage?
Marriages Dec 1896 Ackland Ellen Blanch Barnstaple 5b 899 Bridgeman Lionel Barnstaple 5b 899
Death:
Name: Lionel Bridgman Birth Date: abt 1874 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1951 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Surrey North Eastern Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 5g Page: 447
Name: Lionel Bridgman Probate Date: 6 May 1952 Death Date: 28 Aug 1951 Death Place: Surrey, England Registry: London, England
Of 24 Green wrythe Lane Carshalton Surrey . Died at Surrey County Hospital Carshalton. Probate London to John Lionel Bridgman ironmonger and Leonard Godfrey Davey solicitor. Effects £6108 9s 8d.
Census 1911 says two children born to the marriage, two still living. Yet Christine is not with the family in 1901, nor can I find a birth for her in the names Bridgman.
Could she have been adopted?
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Births Mar 1897 Day Christine Annetta Rotherham 9c 713
EDIT. Seems not, as that girl married in the area:
Marriages Mar 1916 Day Christine A Birkett Rotherham 9c 1197
EDIT: Found Christine with her maternal grandmother in census 1901.:
Address: 11, Brookfield Place, Ilfracombe County: Devonshire
ACKLAND, Anne Head Widow F 53 1848 Dressmaker Ilfracombe, Devonshire BRIDGMAN, Christine A Grand Daughter Single F 3 1898 Leeds, Yorkshire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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