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A large brick wall regarding my Great Grandmother x 2

Elizabeth Fisher born 1812 Blithfield, Staffordshire. In 1834 she marries William Harrison Blore at Blithfield church. Between 1834 and 1836 the couple move to Westminster London where 2 children are born, Sophia in 1836 and William Antil in 1838 (have birth cert).
Then Elizabeth disappears, Cannot find a death, have already ordered 2 death certificates which were not my Elizabeth. In 1841 the children are living with their Grandparents in Derbyshire where they stay until grown up.

Cannot find either parents on the 1841 census, but received a confirmation from the royal archives at Windsor that William started work at Buckingham palace in 1840, they knew nothing about Elizabeth.

In 1845 William remarries, his marriage certificate states he is a widower, and they move to the Isle of Wight. (Osborne House)

Looking at it common sense says that Elizabeth died in Child birth but why no record of a death?

I've searched deaths in Staffordshire and Derbyshire as well as London.

What can I do next?

Any help would be appreciated.

helina

Hello Helina, could you say which were the two incorrect death certificates just so we avoid offering them as possibles.

What was William's work at Buckingham Palace?

Do you have him on any census for reference please?

Do you know where or when he was born ?

Dea x

That 1st death 'seems' unlikely Reggie as this is William's birth reg:

Births Dec 1838 (>99%)
BLORE William Marylebone 1 196

Dea x

????

name: Elizabeth Blower
gender: Female
burial date: 12 Dec 1841
burial place: St. Philip, Birmingham, Warwick, England
death date:
death place:
age: 29
birth date: 1812
birthplace:
occupation:
race:
marital status: Unknown
spouse's name:
father's name:
father's birthplace:
mother's name:
mother's birthplace:
indexing project (batch) number: B02165-1
system origin: England-EASy
gs film number: 814858
reference id: Pg. 30 No. 233

Ancestry trees have the second marriage as this one:

Marriages Dec 1847

BARTLETT Matilda I of Wight 8 463
Blore William I. of Wight 8 463

Dea x

name: William Blore
birth date:
birthplace:
age:
spouse's name: Matilda Bartlett
spouse's birth date:
spouse's birthplace:
spouse's age:
event date: 27 Nov 1847
event place: Cowes, Hampshire, England
father's name: S... Blore
mother's name:
spouse's father's name: John Bartlett
spouse's mother's name:
race:
marital status: Widowed
previous wife's name:
spouse's race:
spouse's marital status: Single
spouse's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M16652-1
system origin: England-EASy
gs film number: 1470805
reference id: P31 CN61

Wondering about this one


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Deaths Sep 1858
Blore Betty - Bakewell 7b 342

Is this her in 1871 ??


Name: Elizabeth Blore
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Calton in Maleydse, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Waterfall
Ecclesiastical parish: Waterfall
Town: Waterhouses
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Ashborne
Sub-registration district: Calton


Elizabeth Blore 59


EDIT :
Though original says unmarried.

This appears to be the Elizabeth Blore that some ancestry trees have wrongly documented as Elizabeth Fisher.

1851 (still at Palace)
BLORE, William Married M 37 1814 Usher Of The Hall
Chevet Broughton, Derbyshire
Piece: 1478
Folio: 644
Page: 17
Registration District: Saint Georges Hanover Square
Civil Parish: Saint Georges Hanover Square
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: Buckingham Palace, Saint Georges Hanover Square, Westminster
County: Middlesex


1851 (Wife)
BARTLETT, John Head Married M 52 1799 Boot Maker
Portsea, Hampshire
BARTLETT, Margaret Wife Married F 60 1791
Portsea, Hampshire
BARTLETT, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 34 1817
Portsea, Hampshire
BLORE, Matilda Daughter Married F 28 1823
Portsea, Hampshire
BARTLETT, Thomas Son Unmarried M 25 1826 Boot Maker
Portsea, Hampshire
BLORE, Matilda Grand Daughter F 2 1849
Westminster, Middlesex
BLORE, Louisa Jane Grand Daughter F 0 (7 MOS) 1851
I of W Cowes, Hampshire
Piece: 1662
Folio: 138
Page: 23
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Northwood
Municipal Borough:
Address: 40, High Street, Northwood, West Cowes
County: Hampshire


1861
BLORE, William Head M 47 1814 Victualler
Derby Church Broughton
BLORE, Matilda Wife F 37 1824
Portsea, Hampshire
BLORE, Matilda M Daughter F 12 1849
Vauxhall...London
BLORE, Louisa S Daughter F 10 1851
East Cowes Isle of Wight, Hampshire
BLORE, Selina S Daughter F 8 1853
West Cowes Isle of Wight, Hampshire
BLORE, Beatrice E Daughter F 0 (6M) 1861
West Cowes Isle of Wight, Hampshire
HOLLIS, George Visitor Unmarried M 25 1836 Boot Maker
West Cowes Isle of Wight, Hampshire
Piece: 652
Folio: 89
Page: 13
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Northwood
Municipal Borough: Newport
Address: Sun Hill, Northwood, West Cowes, Newport
County: Hampshire

Chris:)

1841 (Reference)
The Queen F 20 1821 Middlesex
Piece: 740
Book/Folio: 9/3
Page: 1
Registration District: St Martin in the Fields
Civil Parish: St Martin in the Fields
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: Buckingham Palace, St Martin In The Fields, Westminster
County: Middlesex

1841
BLORE, Simon M 70 1771 (Farmer)
BLORE, Jane F 60 1781 Derbyshire
BLORE, Sophia F 4 1837
BLORE, William M 3 1838
Piece: 179
Book/Folio: 11A/3
Page: 1
Registration District: Ashbourne
Civil Parish: Bradley
Municipal Borough:
Address: Bradley, Bradley
County: Derbyshire

Name: William Blore
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1838 (Born 9 Nov. 1838)
Father's Name: William Blore (Servant)
Mother's name: Elizabeth Blore
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bryanston Square St Mary
(address, as, 43, Adam Street. West)

Thanks for your help.

"1841 (Reference)
The Queen F 20 1821 Middlesex
Piece: 740
Book/Folio: 9/3
Page: 1
Registration District: St Martin in the Fields
Civil Parish: St Martin in the Fields
Municipal Borough: Westminster
Address: Buckingham Palace, St Martin In The Fields, Westminster
County: Middlesex"
How or where did you find that entry?

I did some research on the 1871 entry for Elizabeth Blore and think her parents where called George and Mary Blore.
"https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NG8R-LP8
name: Elizabeth Blore
gender: Female
christening date: 19 Jan 1812
christening place: CALTON,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: George Blore
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Mary
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: C05597-1
system origin: England-ODM
gs film number: 426516
reference id:
Collection: Elizabeth Blore, "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975""

These are the 2 death certificates I had ordered
"Deaths Sep 1845 (>99%)
BLORE Elizabeth Ashborne 19 231"
Deaths Jun 1838 (>99%)
Bowler Elizabeth St Geo Han Sq 1 9

helina

??
Civil Registration event: Death

Name: BLORE, Elizabeth
Registration district: Chelsea
County: London
Year of registration: 1847
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Volume no: 3
Page no: 27

This falls just before the remarriage, but there are several that fall post his second marriage, most but not all in Derbyshire.

They could have parted and she is living with someone else and taken his name?

Might be worth me ordering another death certificate. Thanks Stuart

Been thinking about it, its unlikely to be Elizabeth as William remarries in 1845.

helina

Are you sure William remarried in 1845, and not 1847?

I believe it would be 1847 but we do need confirmation from Helina !!

Dea x

Yes have just checked with the marriage certificate and William and Matilda married on the 27 Nov 1847, not 1845. So that death of Elizabeth Blore could well be my Great Grandmother x 2.

Another certificate needed. Thanks for your help.

helina

Just as well I checked my certificates before ordering the death certificate. I already have it and the Elizabeth who died in 1847 was a widow, her husband had been called John.

So back to square one.

helina

Hmmm, you said she went missing about 1838. *****Eliminated*****
State:New South Wales
Country:Australia
Day of arrival in NSW:31
Month of arrival in NSW:Aug
Year of arrival in NSW:1838
Given names:ELIZABETH
Surname:BLORE
Ship name:JOHN RENWICK
Record source:Convict Arrivals in New South Wales
Data provider:The Genealogical Society of VictoriaTranscriptions © The Genealogical Society of Victoria Inc.


Not this one, was convicted in Liverpool of stealing from the person and her father was Joseph Blore.

Thanks Pam,

My Elizabeth's parents were called William and Hannah Fisher. Thanks for looking.

helina