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Susan
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22 Mar 2013 14:19 |
Hi. Helping my mum search for her Grandfather. He was John Scott Morrison born in 1878(we think). He married Ann Briggs in1898, Northumberland. We are unable to trace his parents. Father is William Morrison but noted as deceased on marriage certificate. Mother not mentioned. Mum was told he was brought up by his Gran...no name that we know of but I have found a John Morrison on 1881 census and head of household is older lady. I am hoping that someone can help us Thanks :-)
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greyghost
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22 Mar 2013 14:25 |
?? Is this your chap -
Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: MORRISON, John Scott Registration district: Berwick County: Northumberland Year of registration: 1878 Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3 Volume no: 10B Page no: 378
and in the 1881 census that you found?
1881 census transcription details for: ?, Kyloe
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG11 Piece: 5128 Folio: 5 Page: 1 Reg. District: Berwick Sub District: Islandshire Parish: Kyloe Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: ?, Kyloe County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born MORRISON, Margaret Head Married F 53 1828 Formerly Charwoman Tweedmouth, Northumberland MORRISON, Ellen Daughter Single F 17 1864 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland MORRISON, Alexander Nephew Single M 14 1867 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland MORRISON, Mary A Daughter Single F 14 1867 Ag Lab Spittal, Northumberland MORRISON, George Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Spittal, Northumberland MORRISON, John Grand Son Single M 3 1878 Kyloe, Northumberland
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:04 |
Welcome to the boards Susan.
Is it just me that is struggling to find the above family in the 1871 census?
Off to take another look...........
Edit: Mothers names are not on marriage cert's.........only the Father.
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greyghost
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22 Mar 2013 15:17 |
No, not the only one PH! Nor before or after either
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:21 |
I have John in the 1891 census with his married aunt.........(Not that it helps!)
1891 England Census about John Morrison Name: John Morrison Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Kyloe, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Embleton Ecclesiastical parish: Embleton Town: Embleton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Alnwick Sub-registration district: Embleton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4265 Folio: 121 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age John Davison 31 Ellen Davison 29 Ellen Davison 3 Edward Davison 2 George Davison 1/12 John Morrison 14 Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%) Davison John Belford 10b 529 MORRISON Ellen Belford 10b 529
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:27 |
This doesn't help either.........
1891 England Census about Margaret Morrison Name: Margaret Morrison Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Berwick, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Burton Ecclesiastical parish: Bamburgh Town: Burton County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Belford Sub-registration district: Belford ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4266 Folio: 118 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Morrison 59 George Morrison 21 Mary Ann Morrison 24 Joseph Morrison 7 (Grandson)
1901 England Census about Margaret Morrison Name: Margaret Morrison Age: 69 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Sturton Grange Ecclesiastical parish: Warkworth Town: Sturton Grange County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Alnwick Sub-registration district: Warkworth ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 43 Piece: 4838 Folio: 50 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Morrison 69 Joseph Morrison 17 (Grandson)
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greyghost
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22 Mar 2013 15:30 |
Closest I'm getting - ages out in some cases. Margaret born Tweedmouth, children Spittal. Alexander described as son here not nephew
1871 census transcription details for: Front Street, Tweedmouth, Berwick
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 5185 Folio: 30 Page: 2 Reg. District: Berwick Sub District: Berwick Parish: Tweedmouth Enum. District: 19 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Berwick Address: Front Street, Tweedmouth, Berwick County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born MORRISON, Margaret Head F 37 1834 Northumberland MORRISON, Joseph Son M 17 1854 Northumberland MORRISON, Margaret Daughter F 13 1858 Northumberland MORRISON, Eleanor Daughter F 10 1861 Northumberland MORRISON, Mary Ann Daughter F 3 1868 Northumberland MORRISON, Alexander Son M 4 1867 Northumberland MORRISON, George Son M 17 1854 Northumberland DAVIDSON, Andrew Lodger M 84 1787 Northumberland
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:35 |
That looks good to me Stuart.
The 1891 census states Margaret was born in Berwick too!!
Looking at the image of the 1871 census.........George is actually age 1
It possibly states that Margaret is "Unmarried" too?
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:37 |
No sign of a son William though........
1861 England Census about Margaret Morrison Name: Margaret Morrison Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Spittal Town: Spittal County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Berwick Sub-registration district: Berwick upon Tweed ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 118 Piece: 3888 Folio: 14 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Andrew Davidson 74 >>>>Appears on the 1871 census Ann Watson 66 (Lodger) Margaret Morrison 26 (Unmarried) Charwoman Joseph Morrison 8 Mary A Morrison 6 Margaret Morrison 4
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 15:55 |
Have to pop off for a while........will check back later.
It might be that John had no idea who his Father was and the name William was added just to "Save Face"......i think you will need to purchase a copy of his birth certificate Susan to find out who his parents were.
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about John Scott Morrison Name: John Scott Morrison Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878 Registration district: Berwick Inferred County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Page: 378
The best place to purchase Certificates is online here........
www.gro.gov.uk/
Will cost you £9.25
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greyghost
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22 Mar 2013 16:20 |
Have come to the same conclusions PH
1851 census transcription details for: Eastern Lane, Berwick, Berwick Upon Tweed
National Archive Reference: RG number: HO107 Piece: 2421 Folio: 463 Page: 48 Reg. District: Berwick Sub District: Berwick upon Tweed Parish: Berwick Enum. District: 2G Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Berwick upon Tweed Address: Eastern Lane, Berwick, Berwick Upon Tweed County: Northumberland Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born OSWALD, Robert Head Widower M 62 1789 Corn Merchant Berwick upon Tweed OSWALD, Margaret Daughter Unmarried F 22 1829 Berwick upon Tweed OSWALD, Robina Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 Berwick upon Tweed MORISON, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 17 1834 House Servant Tweedmouth, Northumberland
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PricklyHolly
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22 Mar 2013 16:29 |
1841 England Census about Margaret Morrison Name: Margaret Morrison Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Gender: Female Civil parish: Tweedmouth Hundred: Islandshire County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View image Registration district: Berwick upon Tweed Sub-registration district: Islandshire Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 318 Book: 9 Folio: 14 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Mary Morrison 20 Margaret Morrison 7
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Susan
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23 Mar 2013 21:06 |
Thank you all for your help. I had found the 1881 census which I thought was correct but struggling to piece together. He always said that his Father was called William and was a coachman. Which is the same as George Morrison. I will try and find his birth certificate online. Thanks again all. The help is much appreciated as we have very little information about John before he married Ann Briggs.
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Susan
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20 Jun 2016 13:42 |
Hi sorry I didn't respond to all your kind researching. Can't believe it's been over 3 years. My mum took I'll at that point and she seemed to lose interest in her research at that time. Unfortunately she passed away this year and I am now trying to trace family by myself. I still am having no luck finding a birth certificate for John or anything much on his father William Regards to all :-)
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safc
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20 Jun 2016 14:49 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Blueberry Farm, Cockle Park, Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Morrison Head Married Male 24 1877 Hind Northumberland, England Transcription Annie Morrison Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Northumberland, England Transcription William Morrison Son - Male 2 1899 - Acklington, Northumberland, England Transcription Margaret E Morrison Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Hebron, Northumberland, England
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Dea
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20 Jun 2016 16:09 |
You really need that birth cert. Susan.
It could be that his mother was not married and he made up a name for his father, or, It could be that his mother was the 'Morrison' and maybe, in view of his middle name, his father could have been a William 'Scott' ???
The birth cert would at least give you his mother's details and an address where he was born.
Dea x
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safc
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20 Jun 2016 16:42 |
under search then search trees
there are 2 members who have john morrison born kyloe about 1878 in their trees
you could contact them to see if they have any info
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ArgyllGran
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20 Jun 2016 16:45 |
Susan - you say " I still am having no luck finding a birth certificate for John ."
PricklyHolly posted the details for you on 23rd March 2013 @ 15:55. All you have to do is send for a copy of the cert at a cost of £9.25.
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