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Kathryn
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28 Sep 2013 11:19 |
Hi, my great grand uncle, full name William George Pritchard Bryant was born in 1854 in Rochester, Kent. His father was John Wheeler (Weeler) Bryant and mother Sarah Bryant nee Fry. I can find nothing on William beyond the 1861 Census for him when he is shown as living with his mother and siblings in Kent. Father, John, is not shown on this Census.
Is anyone please able to assist in seeing if they can find anything farther on William?
Any help will be greatly appreciated as ever.
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Kathryn
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Sep 2013 11:27 |
For ref
1861 England Census about William Geo Bryant Name: William Geo Bryant Age: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Sarah Bryant Gender: Male Where born: Rochester Civil Parish: Rochester St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Registration District: Medway Sub-registration District: Rochester ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Schedule Number: 9 Piece: 477 Folio: 70 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Bryant 47 Sophia Bryant 18 Harritto Bryant 14 James John Bryant 12 William Geo Bryant 6
England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about William George Pritchard Bryant Name: William George Pritchard Bryant Gender: Male Christening Date: 2 Jul 1854 Christening Place: Rochester, Kent, England Father's Name: John Wheeler Bryant Mother's Name: Sarah
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Gai
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28 Sep 2013 11:29 |
This could be him in 1881
Name: William Bryant Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil Parish: Chatham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address: 1 James Court Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View Image Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration District: Medway Sub-registration District: Gillingham ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 894 Folio: 21 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age
William Bryant 27 Emily E. Wood 25
Emily is a lodger on the census
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Gai
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28 Sep 2013 11:33 |
Could this be him in 1871
Name: William Bryant Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son-in-law Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Rochester County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration District: Medway Sub-registration District: Rochester ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Household Schedule Number: 67 Piece: 904 Folio: 30 Page Number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Robert Rodney 66 Mary Rodney 58 Mary Rodney 22 Mary E Rodney 13 Charles Rawlinson 2 Sarah Packman 53 William Bryant 17 George Bryant 7
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Gai
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28 Sep 2013 11:38 |
Maybe 1891
Name: William Bryant Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Bryant Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil Parish: Frindsbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip of James Town: Upnor County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status:
View Image Registration District: Strood Sub-registration District: Strood ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 653 Folio: 26 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Bryant 36 Eliza Bryant 26
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Kathryn
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28 Sep 2013 11:44 |
Hiya, thank you for the information provided. I see on the 1881 Census it shows William as being married although the only name showing as well on the Census is Emily who is a lodger. Am not too sure at the moment about the 1871 Census as the George Bryant showing doesn't fit with the family I have around that time.
Thank you all for your time and help. There are so many William Bryant's, if only they gave William's full name or at least his middle initials it would make it easier for researching him.
Kind regards
Kathryn
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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28 Sep 2013 11:50 |
1841 England Census about Sarah Bryant Name: Sarah Bryant Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817 Gender: Female Where born: Kent, England Civil Parish: Strood Hundred: Shamwell County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: View Image Registration District: North Aylesford Sub-registration District: Strood Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 491 Book: 9 Folio: 13 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age John Bryant 40 1801************** Sarah Bryant 24 1817************* Elizth Bryant 2 Ann Bryant 1 Mo
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Potty
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28 Sep 2013 12:53 |
Sarah Packman and the two Bryant boys are a separate household to the Rodneys. John Wheeler Bryant seems to have died in 1864 so possibly Sarah remarried (she is shown as wife on the image). The younger Bryant boy is shown as her grandson.
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Potty
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28 Sep 2013 12:55 |
There is a possible marriage for a Sarah Bryant to a George Packman, but it is after the 1871 census:
Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
Allen Thomas Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view Bryant Sarah Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view PACKMAN George Hoo 2a 637 Scan available - click to view PIPER Patience Susan Hoo 2a 637
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Kathryn
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28 Sep 2013 12:56 |
Hi Potty, thank you, will investigate this one now.
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Kathryn
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Cynthia
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28 Sep 2013 19:59 |
Hi,
The marriage of George Packman and Sarah Bryant, is on Medway City Ark.
July 2nd 1871 at Hoo St. Werbergh
George Packman - age 40 - bachelor - sailor - father George (labourer)
Sarah Bryant - age 53 - widow - father James (bricklayer).
Hope this helps. Cx
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Kathryn
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4 Mar 2017 11:42 |
UPDATE on my great grand uncle, William George Pritchard Bryant.
Good morning all,
I now have William's birth certificate which shows that he was born on 6 June 1854 at Five Bells Lane, St Margaret, Rochester, Kent. I am still searching for his death to no avail. Is there anyone who can assist in my continued search for his death please? As ever, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Kathryn
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Maddie
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4 Mar 2017 14:55 |
just in case 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 6 Dallisons Square High Street Chatham, Chatham, Kent, England
Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place William Bryant Head Widower Male General Labourer 60 1851 Kent Rochester Transcription Census details
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Kathryn
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4 Mar 2017 15:00 |
Thank you. We'll keep this one in mind although it says born 1851 but we know how transcriptions were not so good at times when it comes to years of birth/age etc.
I've spent hours and hours on this one, leaving it alone for a while then coming back to it. That's why in the end I sent off for his birth certificate in the hope that the exact birth date might yield something but, as yet, still no joy.
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Kathryn
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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4 Mar 2017 16:14 |
1871 census 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Five Bells Lane, St Margaret, Medway, Kent, England Sarah Packman Wife - Female 53 1818 - Kent, England Transcription William Bryant Son-In-Law - Male 17 1854 - Kent, England Transcription George Bryant Grandson - Male. 7 1864, Kent
So still in Five Bells Lane
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Kathryn
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4 Mar 2017 16:33 |
Thank you for the new information, I believe it's after this time that it all gets a bit of a mystery. William on this Census is actually Sarah's son and not son in law. I think I find William in the 1881 Census as below
Name: William Bryant Age: 27 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relationship to Head: Head Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil Parish: Chatham County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: 1 James Court Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Medway Sub registration district: Gillingham ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 894 Folio: 21 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age William Bryant 27 Emily E. Wood 25
This states that William is married but the lady, Emily, is given as being a lodger/charwoman and unmarried. So who is William's wife?
I think this is William in the 1891 Census, not 100% sure though:
Name: William Bryant Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Bryant Gender: Male Where born: Rochester, Kent, England Civil Parish: Frindsbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip of James Town: Upnor County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Strood ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 653 Folio: 26 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age William Bryant 36 Eliza Bryant 26
It is now stating again that William is married but his wife is Eliza some 10 years younger than him. It shows Eliza as being born in Sittingbourne. I have tried to search for a marriage for William with someone called Eliza but can't find it. As before, not 100% sure this is my William though. The mystery continues.
Thanks for all your time and help.
Regards
Kathryn
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