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RebeccaButterfly
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27 Jan 2015 21:51 |
Can anyone help me? I am trying to find anything on my grandmothers history. I would love to know more about her parents. No one is now living that can tell me anything. Would love to know more about her mother? Nannie was born in 1914 and lived in Commercial Way, Peckham. Next to the Draymen's Arms we think. Her family all lived at this address. Her father was apparently a milkman/draymen and delivered to a shop that is still in this area, it was a dairy then? She had sisters Ivy and Vi, brothers Lennie, Reggie and George. She went on to marry Charles Alfred Wakely of Ledbury Street. They lived in Tooting and Carshalton before moving to Tunbridge Wells. I would love to know more about my grandmothers history. She lost all photos in the Blitz so nothing earlier than that survived. Many thanks
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27 Jan 2015 21:59 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 164 Southampton Street S E, Camberwell, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation George Parrish Head Married Male 30 1881 London Camberwell Manager Newsagent Confectioner Shop Transcription Maud Parrish Wife Married Female 30 1881 Surrey Hampton Court - Transcription Ivy Parrish Daughter Single Female 4 1907 London Camberwell - Transcription George Parrish Son - Male 3 1908 London Camberwell - Transcription William Parrish Son - Male 1 1910 London Peckham -
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safc
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27 Jan 2015 21:59 |
Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%) CHADBAND Maud Camberwell 1d 980 Ingram John Frederick C Camberwell 1d 980 Parrish George Camberwell 1d 980 Saggau Auguste Camberwell 1d 980
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27 Jan 2015 22:01 |
Births Sep 1914 (>99%) Parrish Doris M Chadband Camberwell 1d 1794
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Catherine
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27 Jan 2015 22:03 |
NAME: Doris M Parrish MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME: Chadband REGISTRATION YEAR: 1914 REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jul-Aug-Sep REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Camberwell INFERRED COUNTY: London VOLUME: 1d PAGE: 1794
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Catherine
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27 Jan 2015 22:07 |
Marriage cert. should give you the couples father's names and occupation which will help find, or confirm any findings.
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Catherine
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27 Jan 2015 22:11 |
Although marriage record doesn't show a middle name this is the only Maud Chadband I can find born 1881:-
NAME: Maud Ellen Chadband REGISTRATION YEAR: 1881 REGISTRATION QUARTER: Apr-May-Jun REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Kingston INFERRED COUNTY: Surrey VOLUME: 2a PAGE: 347
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Catherine
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27 Jan 2015 22:16 |
This looks to be her in 1901:-
NAME: Maud Chadband AGE: 20 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1881 RELATION TO HEAD: Daughter GENDER: Female MOTHER: Eliza Chadband BIRTH PLACE: Newington, London, England CIVIL PARISH: Camberwell ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Christchurch TOWN: Camberwell COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS: 73 Laver Park Road
OCCUPATION: Biscuit Packer for Bread Maker
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Camberwell SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Peckham ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 51 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 512 FOLIO: 72 PAGE NUMBER: 1 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 2 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Eliza Chadband 56 Ernest Chadband 22 Maud Chadband 20 Sidney Chadband 19
NAME: Maud Chadband AGE: 10 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1881 RELATION: Daughter FATHER'S NAME: Alfred Chadband MOTHER'S NAME: Elizabeth Chadband GENDER: Female WHERE BORN: London, England CIVIL PARISH: Camberwell ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Christchurch TOWN: Peckham COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS: REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Camberwell SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Peckham ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 46 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 483 FOLIO: 30 PAGE NUMBER: 1 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Alfred Chadband 48 - House painter Elizabeth Chadband 49 William Chadband 19 May Chadband 15 Ernest Chadband 12 Maud Chadband 10 Sidney Chadband 8
NAME: Infant Chadband RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD: Daughter FATHER: Alfred Chadband MOTHER: Eliza Chadband GENDER: Female WHERE BORN: Dover Road Lambeth CIVIL PARISH: Newington COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS: 3 George Court REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Saviour Southwark SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Trinity Newington ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 2 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 532 FOLIO: 29 PAGE NUMBER: 9 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Alfred Chadband 37 - Painter Eliza Chadband 38 Thomas Chadband 13 William Chadband 9 George Chadband 2 Infant Chadband Mary Chadband 4
.........................you will probably have to keep this on file until you have proof that it is her.
This would also be relevant if above is correct:-
NAME: Maud Chadband AGE: 7 BIRTH DATE: 16 Mar 1881 SCHOOL: Ruby Street School BOROUGH: Southwark ADMISSION DATE: 4 Jun 1888 PARENT: Mr Alfred Chadband NOTES: Ruby Street School (0652) opened in 1885. Renamed Watling Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 196- REFERENCE NUMBER: LCC/EO/DIV07/RUB/AD/003
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27 Jan 2015 22:38 |
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Dec 1911 (>99%) Parrish Leonard Chadband Camberwell 1d 1525
------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1923 (>99%) Parrish Reginald H Chadband Camberwell 1d 1541
-------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1916 (>99%) Parrish Violet M Chadband Camberwell 1d 1464
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27 Jan 2015 22:42 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Births Jun 1906 (>99%) Parrish Ivy Maud Camberwell 1d 913
---------------------------------------------------------- Births Sep 1907 (>99%) PARRISH George Thomas Camberwell 1d 914
---------------------------------------------------------- Births Dec 1909 (>99%) PARRISH William George Camberwell 1d 806a
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Catherine
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27 Jan 2015 22:51 |
Possible info for George Parrish:-
NAME: George Parish AGE: 1 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD: Son FATHER: Thomas Parish MOTHER: Charlotte Parish GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Lambeth, Surrey, England CIVIL PARISH: Camberwell COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS: 142 Neate St
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Camberwell SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St George ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 24 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 698 FOLIO: 142 PAGE NUMBER: 27 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Thomas Parish 39 - Carpenter Charlotte Parish 36 Charlotte Parish 14 Elizabeth Parish 11 Hester Parish 9 Amy Parish 6 Thomas Parish 3 George Parish 1
NAME: George Parrish AGE: 12 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1879 RELATION: Son FATHER'S NAME: Thomas Parrish GENDER: Male WHERE BORN: Camberwell, Surrey, England CIVIL PARISH: Camberwell ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St George TOWN: London COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Camberwell SUB REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St George ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 24 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 491 FOLIO: 42 PAGE NUMBER: 7 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Thomas Parrish 47 - Carpenter (widower) Esther Parrish 20 Annie Parrish 17 Thomas Parrish 14 George Parrish 12 William Parrish 9 Mary A Parrish 6
NAME: George Parrish AGE: 21 ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880 RELATION TO HEAD: Son GENDER: Male FATHER: Thomas Parrish BIRTH PLACE: Camberwell, London, England CIVIL PARISH: Newington ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Mark Camberwell COUNTY/ISLAND: London COUNTRY: England STREET ADDRESS:
OCCUPATION: Wine Cellarman
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Peter, Walworth ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 13 NEIGHBORS: View others on page PIECE: 377 FOLIO: 106 PAGE NUMBER: 56 HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 423 HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE Thomas Parrish 59 - Hous Decorator Paint Thomas Parrish 23 George Parrish 21 William Parrish 18 Mary Parrish 16
NOTE:- family are living next door to :-
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS: NAME AGE William Radband 28 Esther Radband 29 Esther Radband 20 William Radband 9/12
Name is Chadband not Radband possible brother of Maud (see census records for Chadband)
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greyghost
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27 Jan 2015 23:07 |
This one would fit with the 1881 census posted by Catherine.
First name(s) District Vol Page Births Dec 1879 (>99%) Parrish George Camberwell 1d 893
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malyon
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27 Jan 2015 23:27 |
COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Thomas Parish England and Wales Census, 1881 Name: Thomas Parish Age (Original): 39 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1842 Birthplace: Southwark, Surrey, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Status: Married Occupation: Carpenter Address: 142 Neate St Event Place: Camberwell, Surrey, England Record Type: Household Affiliate Publication Number: RG11 Piece/Folio: 698 / 142 Page Number: 27 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Thomas Parish Head M 39 Southwark, Surrey, England Charlotte Parish Wife F 36 Lambeth, Surrey, England Charlotte Parish Daughter F 14 Lambeth, Surrey, England Elizabeth Parish Daughter F 11 Lambeth, Surrey, England Hester Parish Daughter F 9 Lambeth, Surrey, England Amy Parish Daughter F 6 Lambeth, Surrey, England Thomas Parish Son M 3 Lambeth, Surrey, England George Parish Son M 1 Lambeth, Surrey, England
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Jan 2015 05:30 |
Print England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Doris M Parrish Spouse Surname: Wakely Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1938 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: Surrey Volume Number: 1d Page Number: 1531 Find Spouse: Alfred C Wakely
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RebeccaButterfly
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28 Jan 2015 08:00 |
Oh, thank you....I am overwhelmed! I am new to this and not sure how it all works. The records you've given me are incredible! I really am thrilled to bits. Now to work out how to go further with this information. Thanks again, never thought I'd get such a rapid response :-)
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Catherine
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28 Jan 2015 17:16 |
Hi Rebecca, as you are new to this family tree lark allow me to give you just a few tips for your research. To be 100% sure that your tree is correct, then any information that you find should always be backed up by proof, such as marriage, birth or death certificates. Census records are also really helpfull but not completely reliable.
Therefore the first thing that you need to do now, is to buy a copy of the marriage certificate of Maud Chadband and George Parrish, if indeed you are sure that these are the parents of Doris.
If you're not sure about the names of her parents you may want to buy the birth certificate just to be sure, although birth records after 1911 do give mother's maiden name and the marriage shown above is the only one with male Parrish to female Chadband so that does look to be correct and the siblings names that you have given all show with same mother's maiden name so very likely.
Once you have the marriage certificate this should give you the ages of the couple getting married, their occupations, address at the time of marriage, their father's names and occupations and witnesses names that may be relatives.
You can then check the census information that I have provided above to see if everything fits and if it does then you have a good base for moving backwards in time to find more ancestors.
The census records are very helpfull as they do give you ages and places of birth, although as I said earlier they are not always 100% correct so you need to keep an open mind. You can sometimes, if you're lucky find parents or brothers and sisters all living together which helps enormously to find or confirm information that you find.
If it turns out that the census records above are not correct, then please come back and let us know what information is on the marriage certificate so we can help you find the correct records.
Good luck with your research, but just to finish, if you do get stuck then there are plenty of people here that would be more than willing to help you, although once you get started it's much more fun to find the information yourself.
Hope that's all clear, Regards, Catherine
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RebeccaButterfly
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29 Jan 2015 21:23 |
Thank you Catherine! I have enjoyed the time spent looking on here and am really touched by the information given so freely by yourselves and everyone else. I have so much to be going on with, it's very exciting. My ultimate goal is to see if there are any photos on the internet of my great grandmother or great grandfather as like I said before, my nana lost all her photos in the Blitz and would love to know what they looked like. Thanks again for all your help, will carry on with the search and update on anything I find or any other questions I have should I find anything else! So exciting! x
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RebeccaButterfly
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29 Jan 2015 21:24 |
ps my profile photo is of my nana Doris Mabel Parrish nee Chadband
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Kimbra
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26 Aug 2016 13:55 |
Hi, I was searching for information about my grandmother's family when I came across your post. My great grandfather, Frederick Nowell and his family lived at 157 Southampton Way or Street, Camberwell, and according to the 1911 and 1901 Census, he was a Newsagent's Assistant. I can't help but wonder if he worked with your George Parrish in his Newsagency, given their addresses and occupations. We will likely never know, but it's fun to imagine. Best wishes. Kim Lethbridge
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