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Hello everyone,

I am trying to find information on my husband's Grandfather Ronald Settle. I did a record search and there are 2 that appear in the 1911 census records.Although the census has the year of birth as 1910 and on his travel documents his birth is 1909. Is there any way to find out which, if either, is the correct one? I don't know if he had siblings as my husband was only a child and doesn't remember his Grandfather mentioning any. I have also found records of him travelling with his own family to Mombasa, which is definitely him. I also am looking for information on his wife Winifred Tucker, (mother nee Booth). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance :-)

Cheers Kathryn

You need the marriage cert to Winifred for his father's name .you should then be able identify him on the 1911 census

If you don't have that info the others can't help I,m afraid

Don't forget the ages on census are at the time the census was take so anyone born after the census moth will show as a year younger as they hadn't had a birthday for the census year yet

This is their marriage

First name(s) RONALD
Last name SETTLE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1933
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ RONALD SETTLE married
WINIFRED M TUCKER
Spouse's last name TUCKER
District HUDDERSFIELD
District number -
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9A
Page 837
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008


Which in view of the district makes this the likely birth

First name(s) RONALD
Last name SETTLE
Birth year 1909
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District HUDDERSFIELD
County Yorkshire
Country England
Volume 9A
Page 240
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

As you can se by the birth reg qtr he hadn't had another birthday by census time

Again the most likely but you do need to verify his dad's name

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Miry Lane Netherthong Thongsbridge Huddersfield, Netherthong, Yorkshire, England

Joseph Alma Settle Head Married Male Mechanical Engineer 55 1856 Holbeck Leeds

Emily Settle Wife Married Female House Keeper 40 1871 Paddock Huddersfield

Annie Louisa Settle Daughter Single Female Woolen Weaver 29 1882 Paddock Huddersfield

Edith Emma Settle Daughter Single Female Coth Mender 20 1891 Paddock Huddersfield

Elsie Settle Daughter Single Female Coth Mender 13 1898 Honsley Huddersfield

Joseph Settle Son - Male - 7 1904 Honsley Huddersfield

Ronald Settle Son - Male - 1 1910 Netherthong Huddersfield

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1140143

(looks to relate above)

Chris :)


EVEIE Report 5 Apr 2009 23:55

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Tucker Winifred Lavin Salford 8d 227
Tucker Winifred I Etherington Guildford 2a 153
Tucker Winifred J Lugsdin Edmonton 3a 1187
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tucker Winifred M Booth Huddersfield 9a 432
Tucker Winifred M Madge Totnes 5b 243

Mechanical Enginerr like his dad
RONALD
Last name SETTLE
Gender Male
Age 38
Birth year 1909
Occupation MECH ENG
Departure year 1947
Departure day 2
Departure month 4
Departure port LONDON
Destination port MOMBASA
Destination MOMBASA
Country KENYA
Destination country KENYA
Ship name DOMINION MONARCH
Ship official number 166828
Ship master's first name HENRY
Ship master's last name GORDON
Ship master's title CAPTAIN SIR
Shipping line SHAW SAVILL & ALBION LTD.
City LONDON
Ship destination port MOMBASA
Ship destination country KENYA
Ship registered tonnage 27154
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists

See he worked for United Africa Company , Unilever House. So did I from 1952
:-)

Do you know where Ronald died? Also did your Ronald have a middle name?

Here are the two death registrations which give the dates of birth

Ronald Settle
Date of birth: 20 Aug 1909
Date of Registration: Sep 1981
Age: 72
Registration District: Yeovill
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 23
Page: 1578


Ronald Coulter Settle
Date of birth: 21 Jun 1909
Age: 89
Registration District: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Registration No: B1C
District and subdistrict: 0317B
Entry No: 270

He didn't marry with a second Christian name so the first death looks more likely

There is another Passenger List to Mombasa in 1956 which shows Ronald and Winifred and Family

Departure Date 14 Dec 1956
Ship Name Kenya

Date of birth given for Ronald is 20.8 1909. So your Ronald is the one that died in Yeovill without a middle name.

Winifred Mary Settle DOB 14.8.1912
Names & DOB given for 3 girls. There is a possibility that the girls could still be alive so if you would like these details too send me a Personal Message and I will supply.

Looks like they were heading for Uganda.

I have found a Non-conformist Marriage Cert for Ronald & Winifred

Date 8 Apr 1933
Place Buxton Road Chapel, Huddersfield
Groom's Name Ronald occ Motor Engineer ( Journeyman)
Age 23
Address The Lodge, St Mary's Hospital, Netherthong, Huddersfield
Father George Alma Settle (deceased) occ Engineer
Bride's Name Winifred Mary Tucker occ Silk Weaver
Age 20
Father Robert Tucker (deceased) occ Wollen Percher
Address 26 Dunford Rd, Holmfirth

Witnesses Amy Tucker & Ruth Nelson Tucker

Thanks everyone for you help :) I am very grateful. You are all very kind.
Thanks again :)

Thanks Shirley for your assistance, was the company United Africa Company , Unilever House a good company to work for? Did you know Ronald Settle? Thanks again :)

Absolutely a good company as it was part of Unilever the multinational company . I am a Unilever pensioner

It had divisions like Birds Eye , Ponds , which looked after the various branches of Unilever . I worked for them for 30 years firstly at Unilever House ,then in another building across Blackfriars Bridge that housed the United Africa Company which traded mostly in West Africa but in other areas too. It's was later renamed UAC ltd because of its diverse areas of trading

Sorry no I didn't know Ronald as I didn't start there till 1952

UAC was a huge separate company and we occupied a nine story building and they too had various divisions within the company

Well he was almost correct with his dad's name but he was Joseph Alma Settle mech engineer rather than George Alma

Joseph died a few years before Ronald married

Record Image View
Order death certificate for Joseph A Settle
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Name: Joseph A Settle
Birth Date: abt 1855
Date of Registration: Mar 1929
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Huddersfield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9a
Page: 502

Thank you all so much for your help, my husband is happy to have learned more about his mothers family so thanks again :)

Hello Gritty,

I have been following up on information supplied by you wonderful people. It was a while ago but you posted this in my post

Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Monday 03 October 1932

HOLME VALLEY ARRESTS
Two Holme Valley men- Ronald Settle, (23) a motor mechanic, of 26 Dunford Road, Holmfirth, and Moss Ellis, (20) a bus cleaner of Brockholes, were charged at Holmfirth on Saturday in connection with the recent robbery at Thongsbridge Post Office, and were remanded in custody....

I was wondering if you have access to the full article as I cannot find it anywhere. It could be my husbands Grandfather Ronald Settle and he would like to find out for sure.

Thank you so much for your time
Best wishes
Kathryn

Hello Kathryn, it certainly looks to be him. Looking at the West Yorkshire electoral registers he's living at 26 Dunford Road in 1932/ 1933. He's later listed at 35 Gynn Lane.

1939 register: (Surname Settle on original)

Settle Household (4 People) 35 Gynn Lane , Holmfirth U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ronald Se?Le 20 Aug 1909 Male Road Transport Mechanics Foreman Married
Winifred M Se?Le 14 Aug 1912 Female Housewife Married
Closed Record
Closed Record
Amy Tucker 30 Mar 1890 Female Housekeeper Widowed
Marjorie D Beever (Matthews,Tucker) 28 Feb 1916 Female Photographer Retoucher Single
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There are a few articles in the paper re the incident. Both men pleaded guilty and were finally sentenced at the beginning of December 1932. Both men were bound over for two years.

Not sure if him on below, from google search...

Chris :)

http://historyofnetherthong.co.uk/?p=111

(The fancy dress winners were : Ronald Settle,)