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Lost Grandfather Surrey

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GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 26 Jan 2016 22:03

I have found what I think may be my Grandfathers death certificate but need help confirming Robert R Bainbridge death 6th November 1936 @ 26 Wolverton Ave Kingston Surrey Informant Mrs E Bainbridge address 19 South Bank Long Ditton This widow name was found to be Emily Bainbridge But My Grandmothers name was EMMA Jane Bainbridge and she was still living in Worthing in 1936 but Grandfather dissapeared from worthing around 1910 he was present at 1901census but not 1911 census Did he desert his family ? I have not found a marriage for a Robert Bainbridge to a lady named Emily if anyone has information about Robert R & Emily Bainbridge late of 19 South Bank Long Ditton they were there from 1933 or earlier till 1939 grateful for any leads
Len Bainbridge

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:06

Is this the death you are looking at - no middle initial, but doesn't mean it isn't him. Does the age at death fit ? Where and when was he born? What does the initial R stand for?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ROBERT
Last name BAINBRIDGE
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1861
Age 75
Death quarter 4
Death year 1936
District SURREY NORTH EASTERN
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 26

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:12

Is this the marriage of your grandparents in Sussex?

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) ROBERT RUTER P
Last name BAINBRIDGE
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1891
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBERT RUTER P BAINBRIDGE married
EMMA JANE BACON
District EAST PRESTON
District number -
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 643

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:25

A tree on Ancestry has Rober Rutter Bainbridge born 1861 Tunstall, Durham marrying Emma Jane Bacon in Sussex 1891 with children Rose Lilian b 1895 and Albert Stephen b 1899. It doesn't give a death date for him, nor 1911 whereabouts.

That would be this census, where Robert is stated as aged 53 b 1848 !!

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, Tarring Road Conningsly Terrace, Worthing, East Preston, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Robert Bainbridge Head Married Male 53 1848 Shoeing Smith Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England
Jennie Bainbridge Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Worthing, Sussex, England
Rose Lilian Bainbridge Daughter Single Female 5 1896 - Brighton, Sussex, England
Albert Stephen Bainbridge Son Single Male 1 1900 - Worthing, Sussex, England

There is another child Robert M on the 1911 census b 1904. Emma has mistakenly completed married 19 years, 5 children born 3 still living, 2 have died

Kay????

Kay???? Report 26 Jan 2016 22:41

Deaths Dec 1947 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bainbridge Emily J 75 Worthing 5h 557

?

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:46

Original here says born London

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Chapel Street, Broadwater, East Preston, Sussex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Jesse Pollington Head Married Male 45 1846 Coachman Sussex, England
Louisa Pollington Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Worthing, Sussex, England
Frederick Pollington Son Single Male 16 1875 Stableman Worthing, Sussex, England
Robert Pollington Son - Male 13 1878 Doctors Errand Boy Worthing, Sussex, England
Frank Pollington Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Worthing, Sussex, England
Emma Pollington Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Worthing, Sussex, England
Mary Budd Mother In Law Widow Female 78 1813 - Findon, Sussex, England
Robert Bainbridge Lodger Single Male 32 1859 Blacksmith Middlesex, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:49

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) EMMA JANE
Last name BACON
Birth year 1868
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District WORTHING
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 2B
Page 329

greyghost

greyghost Report 26 Jan 2016 22:59

That same Ancestry tree has this as Emma's death

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) EMMA J
Last name BACON
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1874
Age 76
Death quarter 1
Death year 1950
District SURREY NORTH WESTERN
County Surrey
Volume 5G
Page 800

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GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 27 Jan 2016 02:11

yes Robert Rutter was grandfather married to Emma Jane Bacon Broadwater sussex 1891
already married to Alice Isabella Nicholson who he married in Sunderland parish church 1882 two sons Robert Rutter 1883 William 1885 family moved in with wifes mother Dorothy Nicholson ref 1891 census alice and son's in Sunderland and Robert in Broadwater marrying Emma jane 5 children Elsie Lillian Arthur Albert & Robert living at no 2 Conningsby terrace Tarring road 1901 census and still registered Tennant there 1910 bur Robert Not there for 1911 census Emma Jane head of house with 2 sons & 2 female lodgers occupation Laundress No proved death cert for Robert found so far
Emma Jane lived at tarring road house until her death in 1950 I have death certificate Which States Widow of Robert Rutter Bainbridge a Blacksmith
Did Robert abandon family again ??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Jan 2016 04:29

Sorry Grunkle, but I can't understand your post as you have written it



yes Robert Rutter was grandfather

married to Emma Jane Bacon Broadwater sussex 1891

already married to Alice Isabella Nicholson who he married in Sunderland parish church 1882, two sons Robert Rutter 1883 William 1885

family moved in with wifes mother Dorothy Nicholson

ref 1891 census .....

alice and son's in Sunderland and

Robert in Broadwater marrying Emma jane, 5 children Elsie, Lillian, Arthur, Albert & Robert, living at no 2 Conningsby terrace Tarring road

1901 census and still registered Tennant there

1910 bur Robert

Not there for 1911 census -- Emma Jane head of house with 2 sons & 2 female lodgers occupation Laundress

No proved death cert for Robert found so far

Emma Jane lived at tarring road house until her death in 1950

I have death certificate Which States Widow of Robert Rutter Bainbridge a Blacksmith

Did Robert abandon family again ??

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 27 Jan 2016 04:35

could someone else please look at the image for this marriage

I think it could be Robert R rather than Robert H

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
Bainbridge Robert H Hopper York 9d 103
Hopper Emily Bainbridge York 9d 103


version on Yorkshire bmd

Yorkshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1913

HOPPER Emily BAINBRIDGE Robert H York District Marriages, York York DM/70/58


EDIT:- Probably not!!

There is a Robert H Bainbridge b.ca 1883, Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, parents
apparently Robert Henry Bainbridge and Hannah ?? (ancestry family tree). He's a Blacksmith Striker living in York with his parents in 1891

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 27 Jan 2016 06:24

Burial - Parish of Long Sutton, Surrey
Name Robert Bainbridge (no middle name)
Date 12 Nov 1936
Age 75 years
Abode 19 South Bank, Long Ditton

Mavis

Mavis Report 27 Jan 2016 15:09


May have the conformation you need about Robert Bainbridge.death1936
but think you may need to get a birth cert. to confirm .

I looked in the 1939 index for Emily Bainbridge - only 2 - 1 up north
1 in Esher Surrey with a Peter Bainbridge born 1928

found Peter R Bainbridge born 1928 mth maiden name White
2 other children with mth maiden name White
Primrose Bainbridge 1922
Harry A R Bainbridge 1925

Harry Arthur Robert Bainbridge died age 7y 22 Oct 1932 same address
as Robert Bainbridge - 19 South Bank - Long Ditton

Emily L G Bainbridge died Mar Q 1964 73 y Surrey Northen

Emily Gertrude Louisa White bp Long Ditton 24 Aug 1890 to James Donner White
and Maria Ella White -- James a plasterer

Primrose married in 1942 Alpine Gowan

Peter Robert died Kingston Jan 1991

Mavis





GRUNKLE

GRUNKLE Report 4 Sep 2016 23:18

Mavis this is the Robert R I think may be Robert Rutter Parker Weddle Bainbridge apparently lived at 19 south from 1919 Emily moved there 1922 and they were listed as Mr & Mrs Bainbridge after 1925 No marriage found yet, seems like they had three children I just have to confirm that this Robert R is Robert Rutter and maybe find where he was 1910 to 1919 I am very grateful for all help

Mavis

Mavis Report 5 Sep 2016 10:38



You could get a copy of the death cert. of Robert Bainbridge or a copy of the birth cert. of Peter R Bainbridge mth maiden name White

Death
Robert Bainbridge 75y Dec Q 1936 Surrey N E - 2a 26
should say if married or Widower and occupation

Birth
Peter R Bainbridge -- White [mth] June Q 1928 Kingston - 2a 836
will give fathers name -- even his full name also his occupation -- address may be the same as Robert Bainbridge's death

get from the GRO cost £9-50 each

Mavis

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 5 Sep 2016 11:11

(are there some other 'Threads' with info. for reference, seems familiar!)

Chris :)

Dea

Dea Report 5 Sep 2016 11:22

There are a few here:


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1352878

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1361797

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1307566

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1304454

Could be others but I haven't looked further.

Dea x

greyghost

greyghost Report 5 Sep 2016 17:49

Other member helpers please see below thread with posting at 1748 5th Sept - I will not be posting the same on all of Grunkle's threads !!

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1361943?jump=1361943