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I know that this ancestor had at least one child DAVID VAUGHAN BISHOP, born in 1915, died in 1921.
How can I find if they had any other children? Is there a 'method' to use on e.g., Ancestry?
He was married to MORVYDD nee Johnes. She died in 1937, he died in 1952.
Thanx

Nicola, it doesn't look like they did, using freebmd.org.uk


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Sep 1915 (>99%)
BISHOP David V Johnes Croydon 2a 402

That's the only Bishop birth with mmn Johnes

just put Bishop and Johnes into surname search for births, only works after 1911 when mothers maiden name is listed.

TVM RR!
:-D

Nicola, I know you have the death for Morvydd, do you also have the
Lancashire, Manchester cremation records 1818-2001 Transcription which is on FMP?

could this be birth's Lambeth is near wandsworth

Births Sep 1911
Johnes Doris M Vaughan Lambeth 1d 805


Births Mar 1914 (>99%)

JOHNES Ruby W Vaughan Lambeth 1d 773

wrong surname combination Malyon :-)

Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)

Bishop Frederick C V Johnes Taunton 5c 577

Thanks again RR. The death notice rather confirms the lack of living offspring for them :-(
Interesting that Malyon found the 'right' combination but the 'wrong' order. We have to watch out for these signposts that innocently lead us down blind alleys, don't we!!! Thank you Malyon for helping :-)

Births Sep 1881 (>99%)

Johnes Morvydd Stoke T. 6b 238

Births Jun 1880 (>99%)
BISHOP Frederick Charles V Bridgwater 5c 409

1911 census
England Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32 Park Lane Croydon, Croydon, Surrey, England
Frederick Charles Vaughan Bishop Head Single Male Congregational Minister

Not picking him up on the 1939 register

his wife Morvydd bishop died in Manchester s in 1937 could Frederick have been in Manchester in 1939

Just because I was interested to know where he was 1939 ( no sign as yet)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
32 Park Lane Croydon, Croydon, Surrey, England


Frederick Charles Vaughan Bishop Head Single Male Congregational Minister 30 1881 Puriton Somerset

So could be anywhere in the country ( or out of it even)

only possible with no occupation shown is this one

Frederick C Bishop on the 1939 Register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Household (1 Person)
Saint Andrews Hospital Thorpe,Norwich , Blofield and Flegg R.D., Norfolk, England

Frederick C Bishop Patient ? ? 1880 None

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/Edinburgh/issue/11090/page/450/data.pdf

Thanks again. His ministry as a Congregational Minister took him to Yorkshire, Birmingham, Manchester, Croydon and more.
In the 1901 census, he is a Student at The Independent College in Withington, Lancs. Interesting that there is another Student there [19 in all] with the distinctive name of 'Maldwyn Johnes' who must be a brother of Frederick's future wife Morvydd Johnes; brother and sister both born in same place.
And unbelievably through Ancestry this evening, I am in touch with the descendant of the only Bishop offspring [seven in all] who had surviving children. So she has confirmed that our chap didn't have surviving children. I have more photos of 'her' family than she has and she's over the moon to see them.
All's well that ends well.
:-D

http://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp144037/maldwyn-johns

(Maldwyn Johnes (1876-1953), Vicar)

(from google search, more items also)

Chris :)

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar#calendar

(his Probate details)


Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
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HOWSON Edith Muriel
JOHNES Maldwyn Ormskirk 8b 1260


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1909

JOHNES Maldwyn HOWSON Edith Muriel Ormskirk Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RM/52/188

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Cheshunt College Lodge, Bateman Street, Cambridge
Maldwyn Johnes 27 Sep 1876 Male Congregational Minister Single (Married on image)

I take it that you have her burial details? - They were all 'buried' in the same grave in Yorkshire: Morvydd, her husband, her mother and the son David Vaughan.

Dea x

Thank you Dea for that. Please could you ping me the link for that?

Actually her husband is buried at Nether Stowey with the rest of his parental family - seen the grave!
Nx

Idle Upper Chapel Independent Cemetery Memorial Inscriptions: Area B

20 BISHOP F C Vaughan 1952 12 21 1880 04 21 Congregational Minister. Gravestone Ref:B.23
20 BISHOP Morvydd 1937 09 17 1881 05 30 Wife F C Vaughan Bishop

20 JOHNES Amelia Margretta 1920 12 14 75 Widow Revd.J H Johnes Longton, (Staffs.) and Haslingden
20 BISHOP David Vaughan 1921 03 19 1915 06 03 Son F C Vaughan and Morvydd Bishop


http://www.calverley.info/iuci_mem_b.htm



Dea x

First name(s) Frederick C V
Last name Bishop
Service number -
Rank -
Corps Young Mens Christian Association
Service record Corps: Young Mens Christian Association
Archive reference WO372/2
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Country Great Britain
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D1344785
Record set World War One British Army medal index cards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

Dea, that is absolutely extraordinary about his final resting place! He was cremated in Dorset near to the village where he and the family lived at Nether Stowey. The rumour was that his ashes were interred in the big family grave plot in the cemetery there. Although his name isn't mentioned on the grave kerbs, it was just "assumed". Ha - so much for family rumours!
So his ashes were transported from Dorset to Yorkshire to be interred in the grave with his wife and young son [and her mother].
Thank you so much for that.
And to Kay????, thank you too for that interesting snippet.
:-D :-D