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Hi can anyone help as the parish records for Garston only seem to be on Ancestry I only have essentials sub so can't view these records..I am looking for Baptisms of the children of a ROBERT DAVIES & MARY ANN LOFTUS..names are Robert c 1897..Rose c 1901..and any others ..I do have census records etc they resided in Garston..

Thank you Col.

I can't see any baptisms for children of Robert and Mary Ann Davies in Garston

I can only see ones for Accrington?

According to the 1911 Census, Rose was actually born ca 1899 in Manchester ????

I cannot find a marriage for John Davies and Mary Loftus at all ...
www.yoliverpool.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=17687...

I cannot find a marriage for John Davies and Mary Loftus at all. ... L'Pool) and Mary Ann (b.1869 Ormskirk) in Garston at 6 Mount Pleasant Robert James Davies ...

(above from google search?)

Chris :)

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1897

LOFTUS Mary A DAVIES Robert West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended Liverpool REG_WD/189/41

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php


Births Sep 1908 (>99%)
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Davies Sabina W. Derby 8b 710

(another on 1911)


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908

DAVIES Sabina Wavertree Liverpool WAV/98/74


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1911

DAVIES John Wavertree Liverpool WAV/107/61

Looks like they had another son



Births Dec 1913
Davies Denis Loftus W.derby 8b 1252

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1939 Register

Davies Household (2 People)
29 Derby Street , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Denis Davies 16 Sep 1913 Male Dock Labourer Heavy Work Married 78 1
Catherine Davies 30 Sep 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 78 2

Name Rose Davies
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Garston
Sub-District Wavertree
Registration District West Derby
Gender Female
Age 2
Birthplace Garston, Lancashire
Record Type Household

Name Robert Davies
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Garston
Sub-District Wavertree
Registration District West Derby
Gender Male
Age 6
Birthplace Garston, Lancashire
Record Type Household

?????????

Name Ernest Davies
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Garston
Sub-District Wavertree
Registration District West Derby
Gender Male
Age 12
Birthplace Garston, Lancashire
Record Type Household

The above Ernest can't be one of 'their' children - on the 1911 census they have had 4 children, all still alive and living with them:

Robert, Rose, Sebina and John.

Dea x

Hi and thank you I have the 1911 census info and marriage of Robert Davies and Mary Ann Loftus..reason I needed Baptisms is the daughter Rose being born in Salford at 30 Benson Street..Feb 1901 parents are correct the one thing wrong is Robert he is down as a Crane Driver when in fact he is in the Army and left for South Africa in Jan 1901, but would have been home to father Rose going by his Army records...after checking the 1901 for 30 Benson St the number does not exist the street goes up to number 28....

Mary Ann had a sister named Sabina Loftus born Garston 1884...on the 1901 she is living in Salford as a Domestic .I was thinking that maybe this Sabina could be the mother of Rose single girl gets pregnant etc..and sister Mary helps out and takes the baby back to Garston..Robert comes home in 1905..if I could just find Mary in 1901 that would help she is born Garston 1878..

Thank you all Col

Name Sebena Davies
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
County Lancashire
Parish Garston
Sub-District Wavertree
Registration District West Derby
Gender Female
Age 3
Birthplace Garston
Record Type Household

Thank you Ann

Colette

Was the Benson St address in Salford, as there 'is' a number 30 on 1901 census but no sign of a Davies or a Loftus there?


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
30, Benson Street, Salford, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Walter Willoughby Head Married Male 57 1844 Bricklayers Labourer Salford, Lancashire, England
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Ann Willoughby Wife Married Female 57 1844 - Salford, Lancashire, England
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Thomas Willoughby Nephew - Male 34 1867 Army Salford, Lancashire, England

Dea x

On Robert's WW1 miltary record his children are listed as:

Rose 1-12-00
Sabina 21-7-08
John 9-1-11
Dennis 16-9-13
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British Army Service Records 1914-1920

First name(s) Robert
Last name Davies
Age 38
Birth year -
Birth town Garston
Birth county Lancashire
Birth country England
Service number 3689
Regiment Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Unit / Battalion 1st Battalion
Year 1914
Series WO 363

Who did Rose marry?

Possible?

Marriages Sep 1920 (>99%)
Davies Rose Simpson W.Derby 8b 1520
Simpson John Davies W.Derby 8b 1520
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1939:
Simpson Household (3 People) 144 Linner Road , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England
Rose Simpson 01 Dec 1900 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
John Thomas Simpson 03 Oct 1893 Male ??? Married
Mary Ann Norris (Simpson) 21 Feb 1921 Female Bobbin Maker Single
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Death:
First name(s) ROSE
Last name SIMPSON
Gender Female
Birth day 1
Birth month 12
Birth year 1900
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1993
District LIVERPOOL
District number 0251H
Register number 8D
Entry number 116
Date of registration mm/yy 0493

Where did February 1901 come from? Do you have the birth certificate?

possible birth registration:

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Davies Rose Shoreditch 1c 116
Davies Rose Ashton 8d 513
Davies Rose Ethel Abergavenny 11a 37
Davies Rose Hannah Merthyr T. 11a 681

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
Davies Rose Rhayader 11b 130
Davies Rose Salford 8d 164
Davies Rose Ann W. Derby 8b 476
Davies Rose Violet Newtown 11b 155

Perhaps Robert was a Crane Driver before he joined the army and at the time of Rose's birth.