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28 May 2016 22:04 |
Trying to find Jane Anne Culhane born somewhere around 1900 - 1915. Thought to have come from Londonderry/Derry. Worked as a Domestic Servant in Glasgow. Gave birth to Margaret Culhane in Beckford Lodge, Hamilton just outside Glasgow in 1926. As the NHS did not exist until 1948 someone paid for the birth to happen at this hospital. Have tried to track down Jane Anne Culhane without success and yet she signed Margaret's birth certificate very clearly.
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28 May 2016 22:15 |
Only Culhane I can see in 1901 Londonderry, not there on the 1911 Irish census?
Census Years1901LondonderryMagherafeltTullyinksayResidents of a house Residents of a house 42 in Tullyinksay (Magherafelt, Londonderry)
Convent/boarding school
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Loughran Mary 18 Female - R C Connolly Mary 14 Female - R C Mc Elroy Cissie 13 Female - - Grant Annie 11 Female - - Barry May 9 Female - - Culhane Annie 11 Female - -
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Andrew
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28 May 2016 22:17 |
There is this in Ireland census 1911
Name:Anne Jane Culhane Gender:Female Age: 12 Birth Year:abt 1899 Relation to Head:Daughter Residence Date:2 Apr 1911 Townland/Street:Riverstown Town District:Riverstown County: Sligo Household Members: Name Age
Thomas F Culhane 41 Margt Culhane 43 Mary Culhane 18 Margt Culhane 16 Michl Culhane 14 >>>>>>> Anne Jane Culhane 12 Agnes Culhane 10 Alice Culhane 8 Patrick Culhane 6
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ArgyllGran
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28 May 2016 22:30 |
Or this one:
Jane Culhane in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901 Name: Jane Culhane Gender: Female Age: 4 Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Daughter Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901 Townland/Street: Abbeyview Terrace District: Rathkeale Urban County: Limerick Household Members: Name Age Edward J Culhane 41 Bridget Culhane 35 Mary Culhane 5 Jane Culhane 4 Bridget Culhane 3 Margaret Culhane 1
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AustinQ
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28 May 2016 22:32 |
Culhane is not a common name in Lanarkshire-
There is also an Austin Brendan Culhane born in Bothwell Lanark in 1924- not too far from Hamilton. Wondered if he was perhaps another child of Jane?
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Brian
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29 May 2016 08:52 |
Thank you all. Think I will pursue the idea that she may have had a child before or joined a relative in Glasgow to get a job. Intrigued by the fact that someone paid for the birth and paid for it outside Glasgow. The baby did not go to wealthy people - far from it. On the case!! :-)
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ArgyllGran
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29 May 2016 14:13 |
In case Austin Brendan is relevant:
Austin Brendan Culhane in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Austin Brendan Culhane Birth Date: 16 Jul 1924 Date of Registration: Sep 2003 Age at Death: 79 Registration district: Kings Lynn Inferred County: Norfolk Register Number: 68A District and Subdistrict: 637/1A Entry Number: 185
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ArgyllGran
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29 May 2016 14:15 |
Same person ???
Austin Brendan Culhane in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Austin Brendan Culhane Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1963 Subdistrict: Melville State: Western Australia District: Fremantle Country: Australia
Living with Gwladys May. He's a driver, she's a housewife (home duties).
Austin Brendan Culhane in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Austin Brendan Culhane Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1968 Subdistrict: Scarborough State: Western Australia District: Stirling Country: Australia
He's a technician, living with Gwladys May Ann Culhane, home duties
Austin Brendan Culhane in the Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 Name: Austin Brendan Culhane Gender: Male Electoral Year: 1972 Subdistrict: Coolbellup State: Western Australia District: Fremantle Country: Australia
Still with Gwladys, but now he's a doctor and she's a nurse.
Gwladys May A Culhane in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Gwladys May A Culhane Birth Date: 29 Dec 1922 Date of Registration: Sep 1972 Age at Death: 49 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 1779
Austin remarried in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire in 1976. I won't post the record in case his widow is still alive - haven't found her death so far.
She's on Bristol ER until 2007 .
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Rambling
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29 May 2016 14:31 |
Probate for Austin can be found at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills
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ArgyllGran
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29 May 2016 14:43 |
Camerons. The undermentioned cadets to be 2nd Lts., 4th Oct.1947:
Austin Brendan CULHANE (383418).
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/38136/supplement/5697/data.pdf
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ArgyllGran
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29 May 2016 15:03 |
Gwladys May Culhane in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963 Name: Gwladys May Culhane Departure Place: London, United Kingdom Arrival Date: 13 Feb 1958 Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia Vessel: Stratheden
Not travelling with Austin.
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Brian
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29 May 2016 20:51 |
Have printed off all your info. Will study. Am hopeful that Austin may be Jane's brother. Australia interesting. Got directions to go now that I hadn't before. Many thanks to you all.
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GlasgowLass
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30 May 2016 00:36 |
I have an inkling that Austin Brendan Culhane was born into a marriage . Father is likely to be Dr Ignatius Benedict Culhane mother Josephine Maud Wilson who married in Dublin 1917
Looking at Lanarkshire newspapers where Dr Culhane is mentioned in an article giving first aid lectures on behalf of St John's Ambulance.( 1924 in the Bothwell area)
Further info shows that this Dr Culhane was a distinguished medic who moved from Lanarkshire to Derby in 1927 and died in a dreadful accident in 1938 age 47yrs.
His wife, 2 sons and 4 daughters are mentioned in his obituary including a son named "Master A Culhane." The other, older son was named Oliver Anthony Patrick Culhane Only 2 daughters were mentioned. Misses Marie Therese & N Culhane,
The marriage of 1917 suggests that Jane Anne could not be their daughter but, perhaps she was a relative?
It's a long shot but, if Dr Culhane was related to Jane Anne, he would be a perfect candidate to pay for her expenses
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AustinQ
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30 May 2016 10:09 |
GlasgowLass I think you're right- just looking at Ignatius' siblings- there are none listed as Jane on the 1911 census, but as you say Jane may have been a relative,
1911 Residents of a house 1 in Temple Road (Rathmines & Rathgar East, Dublin)
Culhane Mary E 52 Female Dublin married 32 years Culhane Joseph J 31 son Male Merchant England Culhane Mary J 29 daughter Female - Dublin Culhane Louis 27 son Male Dublin Culhane Gertrude 21 daughter Female Dublin Culhane Benedict 19 son Male Dublin Cullen Sarah 28 Female Servant Walsh Helena 24 Female Servant
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Brian
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30 May 2016 21:05 |
Saved me more money !! Was going to send off for Austin's birth cert. Yes Dr. Culhane would be the perfect candidate to pay up, even if it's a distant poor relation that he's paying for. The adoption (not legal actually in Scotland until 1930 although the word adopted is on the 1926 cert) was arranged by the Catholic church. Perhaps the Church asked Dr. Culhane to pay. Many thanks once again :-)
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ArgyllGran
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30 May 2016 21:23 |
Just for the record - no sibling called Jane in 1901 either. John, the father, was born in Tipperary, if that's any clue to more distant relatives:
Benedict Culhane in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901 Name: Benedict Culhane Gender: Male Age: 9 Birth Year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Son Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901 Townland/Street: Roebuck (Part of) District: Dundrum County: Dublin Household Members: Name Age John Culhane 46 M E Culhane 44 Mary S Culhane 19 Agnes Culhane 6 Patrick Culhane 12 John J Culhane 20 Joseph S Culhane 21 Benedict Culhane 9 Bernard Culhane 3 Julia Coogan 50 Kate Royes 27 Emma Hanley 25 Roas Dolan 23
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AustinQ
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30 May 2016 22:31 |
and just to add- Dr Ignatius Benedict Culhane and family were Catholic
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GlasgowLass
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30 May 2016 23:47 |
Brian, I had exactly the same thought about Dr Culhane and thought that his connection to the RC churches in Lanarkshire may be relevant
DR Culhane and his family were indeed catholic and he was a highly respected member of the RC church.
His obituary mentioned this is detail. He was a Grand Knight (K.O.S.C) in Derby By 1935 he was appointed as Supreme Physician to the whole order The Bishop Of Nottingham delivered a Panegyric at his Requiem Mass
Just for the record, Dr Culhane was accidently knocked down and killed in 1938 by his eldest son Oliver who was a Medical student. Oliver came to pick his father up from a meeting and when Dr Culhane saw the car coming down the road, he stepped out to flag his son down. His son never saw his father at the edge of the road and the car hit him. Dr Culhane hit his head on the kerb and died almost instantly Oliver was exonerated of all blame
His daughter Therese was also nursing sister and as mentioned above, son Austin also became a doctor of medicine
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Chris Ho :)
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31 May 2016 07:06 |
Births Sep 1879 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------- Culhane Joseph Gerard Marylebone 1a 580
(just to add, above looks to be son on Census posted, coming up at Rathmines, Dublin on below, as Joseph G, also Louis, John, Thomas, Mrs I.)
1914 Britain, directories & almanacs (Find My Past)
Chris :)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
(looking at 1901 Irish on above, says London for Joseph and John)
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Brian
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31 May 2016 20:30 |
Glasgowlass what a dreadful end. Pressing on with search of Culhanes in the Glasgow area as a relative could have got Jane the job in Derby Street. Now have historic maps of area and the poorer area that her baby ended up being adopted in. Will spend some money on Scotlands People looking for a Culhane sibling and hope to strike lucky. Many thanks.
Chris Ho thank you. Seem to have been some Culhanes in London area from about 1850. Made contact with someone, but unfortunately no lead. Elimination is progress - or so they say !!
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