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Hi.
Does anyone know if an FMP address search is possible for 1841 census?
If it is, I would really appreciate it if someone could check this for me please. I just need to know if there is anyone named James or Eliza Street living on Henry St. B'ham.
Many thanks.
Jan x

There's an Eliza Street,40 seems to be married to William Street, 40 with a son James, 11 months old living on Duke St., Birmingham.

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Duke Street Court, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
William Street Male 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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Eliza Street Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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William Street Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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George Street Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England
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James Street Male 0 1841 Warwickshire, England

cant find one in Henry Street

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William Street Male 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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Eliza Street Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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William Street Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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George Street Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England
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James Street Male 0 1841 Warwickshire, England
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Census details
Family member first name GEORGE, ELIZA, WILLIAM, JAMES
Family member last name STREET
First name(s) Eliza
Last name Street
Gender Female
Age 40
Birth year 1801
Birth county Warwickshire
Birth county as transcribed WARWICKSHIRE
Birth place (other) England
Street Duke Street Court
Parish or township Birmingham
City or borough Birmingham
Town -
County Warwickshire
Country England
Registration district Birmingham
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1145
Book number 2
Folio number 23
Page number 4
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain

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Thanks very much for looking safc & Maddie. It was always a long shot!

I got this address from a marriage cert, that of James Street to Eliza Eccleston in B'ham 1840. Eliza was born 1817, so would have been about 23, & James was a minor.

They had a son William born 1841. He appears in 1851 & 61 with his grandparents, then disappears
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I have never found a single trace of James & Eliza after their marriage.

I just wondered if Henry St. might offer a clue, but it seems not!

Thanks again x

Well, these are Eliza's parents on 1841 and with them is Eliza and William but with a different surname???


1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Heneage Street, Aston, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Excloston Male 55 1786 Warwickshire, England
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Ann Excloston Female 55 1786 Warwickshire, England
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William Excloston Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Eliza Banner Female 20 1821 Warwickshire, England
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William Banner Male 0 1841 Warwickshire, England
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John Somers Male 3 1838 Warwickshire, England

Dea x

P.S. - James's address on marriage cert was Henry St. - her's was Heneage St., as above.

Dea x

Hi Dea, thanks for reply.
I have wondered about that census entry, but not 100% sure, as I can't make any sense of it! It feels like it must be them, but Eliza almost certainly married James Street prior to William's birth. So, if it is her, within six months of William's birth (and 9 months of her marriage) they took on the name Banner.
James seems to have totally disappeared, the above Eliza disappears after 1841, and Willliam after 1861!!!
Jan x

Have grandchildren here so can't do much at the moment but I am trying to follow this:


James Street
England Births and Christenings
Name James Street
Gender Male
Christening Date 01 Jan 1821
Christening Place SAINT MARTIN,BIRMINGHAM,WARWICK,ENGLAND
Birth Date 25 Apr 1820
Mother's Name Harriet Street - single woman ***


Marriage:

James Banner
mentioned in the record of James Banner and Harriotte Street
Name James Banner
Spouse's Name Harriotte Street
Event Date 27 Aug 1821
Event Place Saint Marys,Handsworth,Stafford,England


1841 - At HENRY ST. !!!
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Henry Street, Court 8, Aston, Warwickshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
James Banner Male 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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Harriet Banner Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
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John Banner Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Henry Banner Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
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Thomas Banner Male 14 1827 Warwickshire, England
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George Banner Male 9 1832 Warwickshire, England
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Benjamin Banner Male 6 1835 Warwickshire, England
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Alfred Banner Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England
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Edwin Banner Male 1 1840 Warwickshire, England



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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Eccleston Street, Eccleston, Prescot, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Saxon Head Married Male 33 1818 Flint Glass Maker Warrington, Lancashire, England
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Mary Saxon Wife - Female 32 1819 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
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Mary A Saxon Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Manchester, Lancashire, England
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George Saxon Brother Married Male 40 1811 Flint Glass Maker Warrington, Lancashire, England
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James Banner Visitor Unmarried Male 29 1822 Flint Glass Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England


Dea x

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19, Gray Street, St George..., St George Southwark, London, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Banner Head Married Male 38 1823 Glass Blower Berrington, Warwickshire, England
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Louisa Banner Wife Married Female 27 1834 House Keeper Blackheath, Kent, England
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Harriet Banner Daughter - Female 13 1848 Scholar Southwark, Surrey, England
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Ann P Banner Daughter - Female 2 1859 Scholar Southwark, Surrey, England
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Sarah Banner Daughter - Female 0 1861 Infant Southwark, Surrey, England

Dea x

Name: John Banner
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1821
Baptism Date: 15 Sep 1823
Baptism Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Father: James Banner -- glass blower
Mother: Harriet Banner
Reference Number: DRO 34/12
Archive Roll: M100

Name Harriet Banner
Registration Year 1847
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Aston
Inferred County Warwickshire
Volume 16
Page 154

JAMES
Last name BANNER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1852
District ASTON
County Warwickshire
Volume 6D
Page 157
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

James Banner Head - Male 49 1802 Teaser At A Glass Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Benjamin Banner Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Brass Founder Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Alfred Banner Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Spoon Polisher Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Edwin Banner Son - Male 10 1841 Day Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Joseph Banner Son - Male 6 1845 Day Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Emma Manor Lodger Unmarried Female 19 1832 Warehouse Girl Works Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you !!

Absolutely bloody brilliant Dea & Maddie. I just never considered the possibility that James would marry under his birthname Street, then adopt his stepfather's name of Banner.

I have often thought that the occupation of glass-blower should really have been of some use, and so it turns out to be!

What a brilliant team on here, I can't thank you enough.

Jan xxx :-) :-)

OOIOOOerrrrrhhhh !!

Grandchildren have just gone home and can see you are really excited about this Jan.

It is a work in progress but I think you can work forward from it.

Grandchildren are back at school on Monday so if you still need help then - I will be ready!!

I have a few 'possibles' on Eliza - will look asap.

Dea x

Yes, I am getting a little over-excited. Need to lie down in a darkened room for a bit!

Come back when you are ready - we will take it from there !!!!!

Dea Xxx

:-) :-) :-)