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6 Jun 2016 20:04 |
The above lady, my great grandmother on her birth certificate is noted as illegitimate. Her mother Charlotte married Frederick Fairbrother in 1888 and I am trying to prove that he is the father along with a sibling of my great grandmothers Harriet H Evans 1876-1960. Any conclusions or ideas much appreciated, many thanks folks .
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MargaretM
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6 Jun 2016 20:40 |
I don't think that you will ever be able to prove that he's the father if his name isn't on the birth certificate and they didn't marry until 7 years after her birth.
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Chris in Sussex
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6 Jun 2016 21:05 |
If the children were baptised there is a (small) possibility that the putative father may have been named in the baptism register.
I had one where the mother gave the father's name which was crossed out, but still readable, and the rather damning 'single woman' was written in the occupation column for her:-0
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malyon
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6 Jun 2016 21:40 |
looks like Frederick was married before he married charlotte so I don't think he could be the father of maud ella
Frederick William Fairbrother England and Wales Marriage Registration Index Name Frederick William Fairbrother Event Type Marriage Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1880 Registration District Stockport County Cheshire Event Place Stockport, Cheshire, England Volume 8A Page 8 Line Number 5 Frederick William Fairbrother probably married one of the following people Name Mary Jane Bowker Name Mark Ellor Name Elizabeth Siddall
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malyon
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6 Jun 2016 21:48 |
this looks like the death of mary jane
Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
Fairbrother Mary Jane 29 Stockport
mary jane could have died in childbirth this is the last child born to Frederick and mary jane in dec 1887
Frederick William Fairbrother
mentioned in the record of Ann Jane Fairbrother Name Frederick William Fairbrother Gender Male Wife Mary Jane Fairbrother Daughter Ann Jane Fairbrother Name Ann Jane Fairbrother Event Type Christening Event Date 03 Dec 1887 Event Place St Thomas, Hyde, Cheshire, England Gender Female Father's Name Frederick William Fairbrother Mother's Name Mary Jane Fairbrother
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6 Jun 2016 22:11 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 4, James Street, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick W Fairbrother Head Married Male 22 1859 Joiner Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Mary J Fairbrother Wife Married Female 22 1859 Cotton Weaver Hyde, Cheshire, England
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6 Jun 2016 22:14 |
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference FAIRBROTHER Annie Hyde Tameside BOWKER HYD/66/2 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1884 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference FAIRBROTHER Minnie Hyde Tameside BOWKER HYD/69/33 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1886 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference FAIRBROTHER Elizabeth Hyde Tameside BOWKER HYD/72/90 Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1887 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference FAIRBROTHER Ann Jane Hyde Tameside BOWKER HYD/76/5
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malyon
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6 Jun 2016 22:52 |
if this is Frederick and charlotte in 1891 with his children by mary jane his first wife where is maud ella evans she would only be 10 yrs old could she have given her and harriet to someone
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Annie Fairbrother England and Wales Census, 1891 Name Annie Fairbrother Event Type Census Event Date 1891 County Cheshire Parish Hyde Ecclesiastical Parish ST THOMAS Registration District Stockport Residence Note Frank Street Gender Female Age 9 Marital Status Single Occupation Scholar Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1882 Birthplace Cheshire, England Page Number 20 Registration Number RG12 Piece/Folio 2791/ 110
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Birthplace
Fredk Wm Fairbrother Head M 32 Cheshire, England Charlotte A Fairbrother Wife F 29 Cheshire, England Annie Fairbrother Daughter F 9 Cheshire, England Minnie Fairbrother Daughter F 7 Cheshire,
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malyon
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6 Jun 2016 22:55 |
Annie Fairbrother England and Wales Census, 1901 Name Annie Fairbrother Event Type Census Event Date 31 Mar 1901 Event Place Hyde, Cheshire, England County Cheshire Civil Parish Hyde Ecclesiastical Parish St Thomas Sub-District Hyde Registration District Stockport Residence Note Frank Street Gender Female Age 19 Occupation COTTON WEAVER Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Birth Year (Estimated) 1882 Birthplace Hyde, Cheshire Schedule Type 111 Page Number 17
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Gender
Age
Birthplace
Charlotte Fairbrother Head F 40 Gee Cross, Cheshire Annie Fairbrother Daughter F 19 Hyde, Cheshire Minnie Fairbrother Daughter F 17 Hyde, Cheshire Edmund Evans Boarder M 69 Hyde, Cheshire
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6 Jun 2016 23:01 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 27, Cheapside, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edmund Evans Head Married Male 49 1832 Grocer Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Maria Evans Wife Married Female 47 1834 - Gee Cross, Cheshire, England Transcription Charlotte Evans Daughter Single Female 21 1860 House Gee Cross, Cheshire, England Transcription Betsy Ann Evans Daughter Single Female 16 1865 Pupil Teacher Elementary Gee Cross, Cheshire, England Transcription William Evans Son Single Male 15 1866 Machine Maker Ironworks Gee Cross, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas Evans Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Gee Cross, Cheshire, England Transcription Henrietta Evans Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Gee Cross, Cheshire, England
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ArgyllGran
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6 Jun 2016 23:02 |
The only Maud E Evans, born 1881 in Cheshire, that I can see in 1891 is the daughter of Edmund and Maria Evans.
There's also a Maud Evans (no middle initial), born 1880, daughter of Charles and Elizabeth.
Don't see any living anywhere other than with parents.
EDIT: Aha! I've just noticed that Edmund is on the 1901 census posted earlier. Perhaps Maud was sent to live with him and Maria?
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6 Jun 2016 23:04 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Cheapside, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Edmund Evans Head Married Male 58 1833 Grocer Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Maria F Evans Wife Married Female 59 1832 - Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Betsy A Evans Daughter Single Female 25 1866 School Mistress Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas O Evans Son Single Male 19 1872 Hatter Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Harriet H Evans Daughter Single Female 17 1874 Pupil Teacher Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Maud E Evans Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Pupil Teacher Hyde, Cheshire, England
i think maud e should be grand daughter
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6 Jun 2016 23:04 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 29, Cheapside, Hyde, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Maria Frith Evans Head Married Female 67 1834 - Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Thomas O Evans Son Single Male 29 1872 Property Builder's Manager Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Harriet H Evans Daughter Single Female 27 1874 School Teacher (Church Of England) Hyde, Cheshire, England Transcription Maude E Evans Grand Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Hyde, Cheshire, England
maud e evans has school teacher crossed out
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6 Jun 2016 23:08 |
Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1881 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference EVANS Maud Ella Hyde Tameside EVANS HYD/65/54
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malyon
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6 Jun 2016 23:19 |
the grandparents must have brought maud and harriet up when charlotte married Frederick Edmund is with charlotte in 1901 she must be a widow found a death for Frederick
Deaths Jun 1897 (>99%)
Fairbrother Frederick William 38 Stockport 8a 15
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Mark
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7 Jun 2016 14:44 |
Thank you all for your help. sorry I haven't replied sooner
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