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I had left this tab open when I was looking at it a while ago
just had another look
did an internet search
Wouldn't everybody have loved to know all the info that had already been requested and found before this thread was posted? ... and not mentioned here ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=749455.0
(where a family member has now posted)
http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.northam.canada.ontario.general/8521/mb.ashx
http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/forum/topic13050.html
Time completely wasted here ... that and a distinct lack of acknowledgement of help in this thread.
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Ontario BMDs are closed for 97/82/0 y - the online indexes are not quite up to date.
NB Although d.certs are technically public records, they are not publicly indexed for 70y.
There is a John William Wharton, b July 1883 in Blackburn, who enlisted in the CEF 19/8/1915 at Toronto.
He lists his n.o.k. as his wife, Annie, of 28 Grant St Toronto.
He doesn't give a full b'day, so it seems he's a bit hazy abt his birth details
He had 4 y of gunnery experience whether militia or Boer War or whatever, I don't know.
At present, only his attestation papers are online:
Name: WHARTON, JOHN WILLIAM
Rank:GNR
Regimental Number: 91329
Date of Birth: 07/1883
Reference:RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 10261 - 21
Item Number:306937
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc017/668236a.gif
http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc017/668236b.gif
[It will be abt another 2.5 y before his full service record is free online, via:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/search.aspx ]
I checked CWGC - no hits at:
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx
I also checked Veterans Death Cards: First World War - again no hits
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/numerisation-microforme/006003-110.02-e.php?&q2=36&interval=50&sk=0&PHPSESSID=2ffq73er8boujbo6dbjdb7618
I don't know that I found him on any census. This looks like Florrie in 1921:
Name: Florence Wharton
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 13
Birth Year: 1908
Birth Place: Ontario
Relation to Head of House: Niece
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: Ontario
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Toronto East
District Number: 131
Sub-District: Ward 2
Sub-District Number: 44
City, Town or Village: Toronto East
Street or Township: 326 Ontario
Municipality: Ward 2
Occupation: Student
Household Members
Name Age
W Bennett Colin 49
Alice E Colin 49
Arthur H Rockett 27
Arthur Rockett 29
Shirley E Rockett 8/12
Florence Wharton 13
Sarah Bennett 72
Hugh Bennett 38
Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites - it's hard to get unbounced ].
[I've pm'ed the 2 1921 images to Jenny].
Name: John Wharton
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 39
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Roomer
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1906
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Toronto West
District Number: 134
Sub-district: Ward 5
Sub-District Number: 31
City, Town or Village: Toronto Ward 5
Street or Township: 136 Shaw St
Municipality: Ward 5
Occupation: Storekeeper
Income: 1200
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harriet Johnston 36
Helen Johnston 16
Frank Templeman 42
John Wharton 39
Gordon Attridge 27
Winton Attridge 18
[I've pm'ed this image too]
I don't think Florrie was a niece on Eva's side, and John's side is possible but not probable.
My guess is she's probably a great-niece on Eva's side.
I was able to follow Eva back from 1901 to Rosa's parents.
Marr John + Eva 20/4/1905
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZ1M-FV7 [with image links]
[Note marr record takes 2 pages - one witness is prob wife of officiant -it's noy uncommon - there's another example 2 from end of page]
1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON TORONTO (West/Ouest) (City/Cité) (#118)
Subdistrict: Ward/Quartier No. 5 C-37 Page 4
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6500
37 34 Moore Rosa F Head W May 29 1847 53
38 34 Moore Eva A. F Daughter S Apr 3 1884 16
39 34 Moore Lilian R. F Daughter S Sep 10 1891 9
40 34 Moore Edward F. M Son S Mar 27 1873 28
41 34 Moore Gilbert H. M Son S Oct 24 1881 19
42 34 Bain Sarah F Widoe W May 20 1847 53
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000108729.pdf
S2: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000108723.pdf
[Entry for P 4, L 37 shows addy = 253 Clinton St - Clinton crosses Bloor 400m W of Batherst]
NB 29/5/1847 ties in with:
Births Jun 1847 (>99%)
PIDDINGTON Rosa Birmingham 16 265
Rosa d 26/3/1919
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNR7-TPY [with image link]
Chas d 21/3/1893
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDK4-P48 [with image link]
Eva d 12/12/1915
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDJX-TMT [with image link]
1891 http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148174-00607
District Name: Toronto (City)
Sub-District Name: St. Stephen's and St. Mark's Ward
1881 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008181692.pdf
1871 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396300_00624.pdf
[note preceding h/h]
Eng 1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7DG-8GG
There is this record:
Given Name(s):Charles
Surname:MOORE
Age:23
Ship:NORTH AMERICAN
Port of Arrival:Québec
Date of Arrival:1865/06/07
Year of Arrival:1865
Microfilm Reel Number:C-4520
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:12975
No image available at LAC, but Ancestry has an image
1851-2 All the Toronto census pieces are missing.
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Death of another child of John William & Eva Annie. She died 27 Dec. 1915 but no age given, mother had died 12 Dec. so presumably in childbirth?
Elsie Viola Wharton
in the Ontario, Canada, Deaths, 1869-1938, 1943, and Deaths Overseas, 1939-1947
Record Image View
Name: Elsie Viola Wharton
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Toronto, Ontario
Death Date: 27 Dec 1915
Death Place: York, Ontario, Canada
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Name: Eva A. Wharton
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 12 Dec 1915
Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario
Gender: Female
Age: 32
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Toronto
Birth Year (Estimated): 1883
Burial Date:
Burial Place:
Father's Name: Charles Moore
Mother's Name: Rose Piddengton
Spouse's Name:
Reference ID: yr 1915 cn 6885
GS Film number: 1861983
Digital Folder Number: 4170538
Image Number: 303
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDJX-TMT : accessed 8 June 2016), Eva A. Wharton, 12 Dec 1915; citing Toronto, York, Ontario, yr 1915 cn 6885, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,861,983.
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yes thanks these are the parents of Florence and Alice , would love to know if they have any decendents.
thanks
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Name: John W Wharton
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Apr 1905
Event Place: Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Year (Estimated): 1884
Father's Name: John Wharton
Mother's Name: Mary E James
Spouse's Name: Eva Annie Moore
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1884
Spouse's Father's Name: Charles Moore
Spouse's Mother's Name: Rosa Peddington
Reference ID: 001677
GS Film Number: 1871545
Digital Folder Number: 004529289
Image Number: 01320
Citing this Record:
"Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZ1M-FV7 : accessed 8 June 2016), John W Wharton and Eva Annie Moore, 20 Apr 1905; citing registration , Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada, Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,871,545.
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Hi
I'm looking for decendents of Florence May Wharton born 1907 in Toronto, Canada, and her sister Alice Rose Wharton born 1913 also from Toronto.
Their parents were John William Wharton and Eva Annie Moore.
John was a Banardos boy who came from Lancashire in 1893/4
Thankyou and fingers crossed
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