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Thomas Lammin Pacey

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Bruce

Bruce Report 17 Jun 2016 20:17

Thomas Lammin Pacey was baptised on 16.4.1843 at East Kirkby, Lincolnshire.
He married Mary Ann Semper on 25.9.1873 at Thorpe St Peter Lincolnshire.
I cannot find them on the 1881 census. Can anyone help please

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 17 Jun 2016 20:29

Name Thomas Lammin Pacey
Gender Male
Christening Date 16 Apr 1843
Christening Place East Kirkby, Lincoln, England
Father's Name James Pacey
Mother's Name Mary Ann

lostmeboardname

lostmeboardname Report 17 Jun 2016 20:47

there is a tree on Ancestry that has him with wife Mary Ann Semper
they have - died March 1877 Boston Lincolnshire.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Jun 2016 20:59

The tree that I saw on Ancestry says that Thomas died 1877 but not Mary Ann. I think that this is her with daughter Rosetta in 1881:

Rosetta Pacey

in the 1881 England Census
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Name: Rosetta Pacey
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Mary Ann Pacey
Gender: Female
Where born: Thorpe Park, Lincoln, England
Civil Parish: Boston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: 9 Chapel Row

Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Boston
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3217
Folio: 76
Page Number: 18
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Pacey 44
Rosetta Pacey 7
Elizabeth Temple 8

Bruce

Bruce Report 17 Jun 2016 21:00

Ann that is the right baptism thanks
If they died in Boston in 1877, that would explain their non-appearance in the 1881 census. I will pursue that through my local library records. Thanks

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Jun 2016 21:04

There is also this possible marriage?

Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%)
Marshall George Thomas Boston 7a 640
PACEY Mary Ann Boston 7a 640 <<<<<<<
Porteous Rose Emily Boston 7a 640
Woods Joseph William W Boston 7a 640

Bruce

Bruce Report 17 Jun 2016 21:05

Margaret many thanks. That would appear to be the right family and as she is shown as a widow would fall in with Thomas dying in 1877

Bruce

Bruce Report 17 Jun 2016 21:09

That gives me another leg to research to find which of the two men she married

safc

safc Report 17 Jun 2016 21:17

FreeReg Marriage entry on 17 Jun 2016
For information about this place follow the link to Boston
If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager.
Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Boston
Church name St Botolph
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 19 Aug 1883
Groom forename Joseph William Walker
Groom surname WOODS
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname PACEY
Groom father forename Adam
Groom father surname WALKER
Bride father forename George
Bride father surname PACEY
Register note
Transcriber notes

safc

safc Report 17 Jun 2016 21:20

FreeReg Marriage entry on 17 Jun 2016
For information about this place follow the link to Thorpe St Peter
If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager.
Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Thorpe St Peter
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 124
Marriage date 25 Sep 1873
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname PACEY
Groom age full age
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Cottager
Bride forename Mary Ann
Bride surname SEMPER
Bride age full age
Bride condition spinster
Groom father forename James
Groom father surname PACEY
Groom father occupation Labourer
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname SEMPER
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness John FORMAN
Witness Emma PYCOCK
Register note Both signed with an X
Transcriber notes

safc

safc Report 17 Jun 2016 21:21

FreeReg Burial entry on 17 Jun 2016
For information about this place follow the link to Thorpe St Peter
If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager.
Field Value
County Lincolnshire
Place Thorpe St Peter
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 494
Burial date 10 Jan 1877
Person age 33
Burial person forename Thomas
Burial person surname PACEY
Burial person abode Leake
Witness
Witness
Register note

Bruce

Bruce Report 17 Jun 2016 21:31

\Thanks all, Freereg has Thomas being buried at Thorpe St peter on 10.1.1877.
The Mary Ann Pacey married in 1883 at Boston is shown as the daughter of George Pacey, which means that it is not the widow of Thomas.

Once again thanks all.

alviegal

alviegal Report 19 Jun 2016 18:58

Here's Rosetta and her mum in 1901.



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Whitlow Court, Rumney, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales




Rosetta Pacey Servant Single Female 27 1874 Housemaid (Domestic) Lincolnshire, England
Olphonsine Thibault Servant Single Female 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic) France
Mary A Pacey Visitor Widow Female 67 1834 Laundress Lincolnshire, England

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Jun 2016 19:29

and Rose(tta) in 1891

1891 Census

Name: Rose Pacey
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Snelland, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Snarford
Ecclesiastical parish: Snarford
Town: Snarford
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Lincoln
ED, institution, or vessel: 10

Piece: 2596
Folio: 106
Page Number: 23

John Johnson 38 Farmer
Charlotte Johnson 39
Charles W L Johnson 14
George St John Johnson 13
Thomas P Johnson 12
Herbert Johnson 11
Margaret A Johnson 10
Robert R Johnson 9
Charlotte Johnson 8
Henry Johnson 7
Richard Johnson 6
Ethel J Johnson 2
>>>> Rose Pacey 16 General Servant (Domestic)
Henry Cook 20 Farm Servant
Henry Speed 16 Farm Servant

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AustinQ

AustinQ Report 20 Jun 2016 07:09

Wonder if Mary and daughter moved to Canada? Haven't found anything yet to prove it's them- but adding just in case:

Name: Mary Ann Pacey
Birth Date: 1832
Death Date: 11 Aug 1909
Death Place: Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
Cemetery: Brandon Mental Hospital Cemetery (Old Site)
Burial or Cremation Place: Brandon, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada

Death:
Name: Rosetta Barrell
Age at Death: 32
Birth Date: abt 1873
Death Date: 14 Dec 1905
Death Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada

A child born before Rosetta's death:

Name: Mary Josephine Barrell
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 Nov 1905
Birth Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada
Mother: Rosetta Pacey

Death of child:
Name: Mary Josephine Barrell
Death Date: 26 Nov 1905
Death Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jun 2016 07:30

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

(Database Searches Manitoba)

(not seeing Rosetta Marriage on above)

Chris :)

edits

(although did note on 1911 Census from link below, note W)

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Province.jsp?province=Manitoba

Barrell Richard Lownell M Head W Feb 1870 41 Manitoba Dauphin

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 20 Jun 2016 09:14

I still don't see a marriage- or them travelling to Canada- but this appears to be Richard and Mary together in 1906 (Badly transcribed):

34 253 Borrell Richard Head M S 36 English year of imm. 1892
35 253 Lacey Mary Widow F W 73 English year of imm. 1904
Province: Manitoba
District Name: Dauphin

You can see the image here:
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001202098.pdf
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And Richard 1916:

Name Richard Borrell
Event Type Census
Event Date 1916
Event Place Manitoba, Canada
Gender Male
Age 46
Marital Status Widowed
Ethnicity English
Relationship to Head of Household Self
Birthplace England
Birth Year (Estimated) 1870
Immigration Year 1892
Township 26
Province Manitoba
District Number 02 Dauphin
Sub-District Number 12
Enumeration District 26
Page 7
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Perhaps his name was Borrell?

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Name: Richard Townell Borrell (widower) Occ: Farmer
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1870
Birth Location: Lincolnshyre, England
Residence: Daughin, Manitoba
Relative: Mr G Dean
Relationship: Sister
Regiment Number: 892401

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jun 2016 10:43

(would say so with that!)

Chris :)

Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Coningsby
Church name St Michael
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 215
Baptism date 13 Mar 1870
Person forename Richard Townell
Person abode Ivy Lane
Father forename Richard Townell
Father surname BORRELL
Father occupation Carpenter & Wheelwright
Mother forename Rebecca

http://www.freereg.org.uk/


Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
-----------------------------------------------------------------
BORRELL Richard Tounel Horncastle 7a 547



Births Mar 1845 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
Borrell Richard Townhill Spilsby 14 609


Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%)
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Borrell Richard Townell Horncastle 7a 1138
Harrison Rebecca Horncastle 7a 1138


Baptism
County Lincolnshire
Place Stickford
Church name St Helen
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 632
Baptism date 06 Apr 1845
Person forename Richard Townhill
Person sex M
Person abode East Kirkby
Father forename Arthur
Father surname BURRILL
Father occupation Boatman
Mother forename Mary


1881 (Find My Past)
Richard T Borrell Head Married Male 36 1845 Carpenter East Kirkby, Lincolnshire, England
Rebecca Borrell Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Lincolnshire, England
Richard T Borrell Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Coningsby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary E Borrell Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Lincolnshire, England
Rebecca Borrell Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Boston, Lincolnshire, England
George H Borrell Son Single Male 3 1878 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England
Martha E T Borrell Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England
Catherine E H Borrell Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England
Job Harrison Lodger Head Married Male 22 1859 Carpenter Frieston, Lincolnshire, England
Catherine E Harrison Wife Married Female 21 1860 - Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Street Sleaford Road
Parish Boston
County Lincolnshire
Registration district Boston
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 3219
Folio 27
Page 1


Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Borrell Rebecca 35 Boston 7a 304


1901 (Find My Past)
Richard T Borrell Head Married Male 56 1845 Sawyer In Shipyard Lincolnshire, England
Rose A Borrell Wife Married Female 53 1848 - Leverton, Lincolnshire, England
Street Horncastle Road
Parish Boston
County Lincolnshire
Municipal ward Bargate
Registration district Boston
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 3044
Folio 111
Page 4


County Lincolnshire
Place Boston
Church name St Botolph
Register type Unspecified
Marriage date 05 Mar 1885
Groom forename Richard Townell
Groom surname BORRELL
Bride forename Rose Ann
Bride surname HARWOOD
Groom father forename Arthur
Groom father surname BORRELL
Bride father forename Earson
Bride father surname HARWOOD


Deaths Dec 1906 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
BORRELL Richard 61 Boston 7a 2[14]3


Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) RICHD
Last name BORRELL
Gender Male
Age 22
Birth year 1870
Marital status S
Occupation LAB
Departure year 1892
Departure day 26
Departure month 5
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port QUEBEC
Destination QUEBEC
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name SARDINIAN

(possible)

(as Richd Barrell
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Ancestry)

Bruce

Bruce Report 20 Jun 2016 19:58

Many many thanks everyone, You have given me plenty to pursue and ponder

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 20 Jun 2016 20:47

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/list.aspx?k=Surname%3a%22borrell%22

(you can see image on above, says Mrs. G. Dean, Sister, Fulmer, near. Slough, Buckinghamshire)

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past)
George Dean Head Married Male Coachman Domestic 41 1870 Gerrards X Bucks
Mary Dean Wife Married Female - 39 1872 Lincolnshire
George Dean Son Single Male - 17 1894 Fulmer Bucks
Mabel Dean Daughter Single Female Dress Making 15 1896 Gerrards X Bucks
Eva Dean Daughter - Female School 11 1900 Fulmer Bucks
Address Village Fulmer Slough Buckinghamshire
Census reference RG14 PN7862 RG78 PN392 RD144 SD2 ED13 SN16


Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%)
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Borrell Mary Elizabeth Eton 3a 947
Dean George Eton 3a 947