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17 Jun 2016 20:17 |
Thomas Lammin Pacey was baptised on 16.4.1843 at East Kirkby, Lincolnshire. He married Mary Ann Semper on 25.9.1873 at Thorpe St Peter Lincolnshire. I cannot find them on the 1881 census. Can anyone help please
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17 Jun 2016 20:29 |
Name Thomas Lammin Pacey Gender Male Christening Date 16 Apr 1843 Christening Place East Kirkby, Lincoln, England Father's Name James Pacey Mother's Name Mary Ann
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17 Jun 2016 20:47 |
there is a tree on Ancestry that has him with wife Mary Ann Semper they have - died March 1877 Boston Lincolnshire.
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MargaretM
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17 Jun 2016 20:59 |
The tree that I saw on Ancestry says that Thomas died 1877 but not Mary Ann. I think that this is her with daughter Rosetta in 1881:
Rosetta Pacey
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Name: Rosetta Pacey Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relationship to Head: Daughter Mother: Mary Ann Pacey Gender: Female Where born: Thorpe Park, Lincoln, England Civil Parish: Boston County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England Street address: 9 Chapel Row
Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Boston ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3217 Folio: 76 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Pacey 44 Rosetta Pacey 7 Elizabeth Temple 8
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Bruce
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17 Jun 2016 21:00 |
Ann that is the right baptism thanks If they died in Boston in 1877, that would explain their non-appearance in the 1881 census. I will pursue that through my local library records. Thanks
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17 Jun 2016 21:04 |
There is also this possible marriage?
Marriages Sep 1883 (>99%) Marshall George Thomas Boston 7a 640 PACEY Mary Ann Boston 7a 640 <<<<<<< Porteous Rose Emily Boston 7a 640 Woods Joseph William W Boston 7a 640
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Bruce
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17 Jun 2016 21:05 |
Margaret many thanks. That would appear to be the right family and as she is shown as a widow would fall in with Thomas dying in 1877
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Bruce
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17 Jun 2016 21:09 |
That gives me another leg to research to find which of the two men she married
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17 Jun 2016 21:17 |
FreeReg Marriage entry on 17 Jun 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Boston If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Lincolnshire Place Boston Church name St Botolph Register type Unspecified Marriage date 19 Aug 1883 Groom forename Joseph William Walker Groom surname WOODS Bride forename Mary Ann Bride surname PACEY Groom father forename Adam Groom father surname WALKER Bride father forename George Bride father surname PACEY Register note Transcriber notes
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17 Jun 2016 21:20 |
FreeReg Marriage entry on 17 Jun 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Thorpe St Peter If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Lincolnshire Place Thorpe St Peter Church name St Peter Register type Unspecified Register entry number 124 Marriage date 25 Sep 1873 Groom forename Thomas Groom surname PACEY Groom age full age Groom condition bachelor Groom occupation Cottager Bride forename Mary Ann Bride surname SEMPER Bride age full age Bride condition spinster Groom father forename James Groom father surname PACEY Groom father occupation Labourer Bride father forename John Bride father surname SEMPER Bride father occupation Labourer Witness John FORMAN Witness Emma PYCOCK Register note Both signed with an X Transcriber notes
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17 Jun 2016 21:21 |
FreeReg Burial entry on 17 Jun 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Thorpe St Peter If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Lincolnshire Place Thorpe St Peter Church name St Peter Register type Unspecified Register entry number 494 Burial date 10 Jan 1877 Person age 33 Burial person forename Thomas Burial person surname PACEY Burial person abode Leake Witness Witness Register note
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17 Jun 2016 21:31 |
\Thanks all, Freereg has Thomas being buried at Thorpe St peter on 10.1.1877. The Mary Ann Pacey married in 1883 at Boston is shown as the daughter of George Pacey, which means that it is not the widow of Thomas.
Once again thanks all.
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19 Jun 2016 18:58 |
Here's Rosetta and her mum in 1901.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whitlow Court, Rumney, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Rosetta Pacey Servant Single Female 27 1874 Housemaid (Domestic) Lincolnshire, England Olphonsine Thibault Servant Single Female 21 1880 Housemaid (Domestic) France Mary A Pacey Visitor Widow Female 67 1834 Laundress Lincolnshire, England
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19 Jun 2016 19:29 |
and Rose(tta) in 1891
1891 Census
Name: Rose Pacey Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Snelland, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Snarford Ecclesiastical parish: Snarford Town: Snarford County/Island: Lincolnshire Country: England
Registration district: Lincoln ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 2596 Folio: 106 Page Number: 23
John Johnson 38 Farmer Charlotte Johnson 39 Charles W L Johnson 14 George St John Johnson 13 Thomas P Johnson 12 Herbert Johnson 11 Margaret A Johnson 10 Robert R Johnson 9 Charlotte Johnson 8 Henry Johnson 7 Richard Johnson 6 Ethel J Johnson 2 >>>> Rose Pacey 16 General Servant (Domestic) Henry Cook 20 Farm Servant Henry Speed 16 Farm Servant
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AustinQ
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20 Jun 2016 07:09 |
Wonder if Mary and daughter moved to Canada? Haven't found anything yet to prove it's them- but adding just in case:
Name: Mary Ann Pacey Birth Date: 1832 Death Date: 11 Aug 1909 Death Place: Brandon, Manitoba, Canada Cemetery: Brandon Mental Hospital Cemetery (Old Site) Burial or Cremation Place: Brandon, Brandon Census Division, Manitoba, Canada
Death: Name: Rosetta Barrell Age at Death: 32 Birth Date: abt 1873 Death Date: 14 Dec 1905 Death Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada
A child born before Rosetta's death:
Name: Mary Josephine Barrell Gender: Female Birth Date: 25 Nov 1905 Birth Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada Mother: Rosetta Pacey
Death of child: Name: Mary Josephine Barrell Death Date: 26 Nov 1905 Death Place: Dauphin, Manitoba, Canada
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Jun 2016 07:30 |
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
(Database Searches Manitoba)
(not seeing Rosetta Marriage on above)
Chris :)
edits
(although did note on 1911 Census from link below, note W)
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/Province.jsp?province=Manitoba
Barrell Richard Lownell M Head W Feb 1870 41 Manitoba Dauphin
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20 Jun 2016 09:14 |
I still don't see a marriage- or them travelling to Canada- but this appears to be Richard and Mary together in 1906 (Badly transcribed):
34 253 Borrell Richard Head M S 36 English year of imm. 1892 35 253 Lacey Mary Widow F W 73 English year of imm. 1904 Province: Manitoba District Name: Dauphin
You can see the image here: http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/e/e049/e001202098.pdf --------------------------------------------
And Richard 1916:
Name Richard Borrell Event Type Census Event Date 1916 Event Place Manitoba, Canada Gender Male Age 46 Marital Status Widowed Ethnicity English Relationship to Head of Household Self Birthplace England Birth Year (Estimated) 1870 Immigration Year 1892 Township 26 Province Manitoba District Number 02 Dauphin Sub-District Number 12 Enumeration District 26 Page 7 -------------------------------------
Perhaps his name was Borrell?
Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918 Name: Richard Townell Borrell (widower) Occ: Farmer Birth Date: 11 Feb 1870 Birth Location: Lincolnshyre, England Residence: Daughin, Manitoba Relative: Mr G Dean Relationship: Sister Regiment Number: 892401
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Jun 2016 10:43 |
(would say so with that!)
Chris :)
Baptism County Lincolnshire Place Coningsby Church name St Michael Register type Unspecified Register entry number 215 Baptism date 13 Mar 1870 Person forename Richard Townell Person abode Ivy Lane Father forename Richard Townell Father surname BORRELL Father occupation Carpenter & Wheelwright Mother forename Rebecca
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Births Mar 1870 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------------------- BORRELL Richard Tounel Horncastle 7a 547
Births Mar 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- Borrell Richard Townhill Spilsby 14 609
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------- Borrell Richard Townell Horncastle 7a 1138 Harrison Rebecca Horncastle 7a 1138
Baptism County Lincolnshire Place Stickford Church name St Helen Register type Unspecified Register entry number 632 Baptism date 06 Apr 1845 Person forename Richard Townhill Person sex M Person abode East Kirkby Father forename Arthur Father surname BURRILL Father occupation Boatman Mother forename Mary
1881 (Find My Past) Richard T Borrell Head Married Male 36 1845 Carpenter East Kirkby, Lincolnshire, England Rebecca Borrell Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Lincolnshire, England Richard T Borrell Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Coningsby, Lincolnshire, England Mary E Borrell Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Lincolnshire, England Rebecca Borrell Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Boston, Lincolnshire, England George H Borrell Son Single Male 3 1878 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England Martha E T Borrell Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England Catherine E H Borrell Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Boston, Lincolnshire, England Job Harrison Lodger Head Married Male 22 1859 Carpenter Frieston, Lincolnshire, England Catherine E Harrison Wife Married Female 21 1860 - Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Street Sleaford Road Parish Boston County Lincolnshire Registration district Boston Archive reference RG11 Piece number 3219 Folio 27 Page 1
Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------- Borrell Rebecca 35 Boston 7a 304
1901 (Find My Past) Richard T Borrell Head Married Male 56 1845 Sawyer In Shipyard Lincolnshire, England Rose A Borrell Wife Married Female 53 1848 - Leverton, Lincolnshire, England Street Horncastle Road Parish Boston County Lincolnshire Municipal ward Bargate Registration district Boston Archive reference RG13 Piece number 3044 Folio 111 Page 4
County Lincolnshire Place Boston Church name St Botolph Register type Unspecified Marriage date 05 Mar 1885 Groom forename Richard Townell Groom surname BORRELL Bride forename Rose Ann Bride surname HARWOOD Groom father forename Arthur Groom father surname BORRELL Bride father forename Earson Bride father surname HARWOOD
Deaths Dec 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- BORRELL Richard 61 Boston 7a 2[14]3
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) RICHD Last name BORRELL Gender Male Age 22 Birth year 1870 Marital status S Occupation LAB Departure year 1892 Departure day 26 Departure month 5 Departure port LIVERPOOL Destination port QUEBEC Destination QUEBEC Country CANADA Destination country CANADA Ship name SARDINIAN
(possible)
(as Richd Barrell Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 Ancestry)
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Bruce
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20 Jun 2016 19:58 |
Many many thanks everyone, You have given me plenty to pursue and ponder
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Chris Ho :)
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20 Jun 2016 20:47 |
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/list.aspx?k=Surname%3a%22borrell%22
(you can see image on above, says Mrs. G. Dean, Sister, Fulmer, near. Slough, Buckinghamshire)
Chris :)
1911 (Find My Past) George Dean Head Married Male Coachman Domestic 41 1870 Gerrards X Bucks Mary Dean Wife Married Female - 39 1872 Lincolnshire George Dean Son Single Male - 17 1894 Fulmer Bucks Mabel Dean Daughter Single Female Dress Making 15 1896 Gerrards X Bucks Eva Dean Daughter - Female School 11 1900 Fulmer Bucks Address Village Fulmer Slough Buckinghamshire Census reference RG14 PN7862 RG78 PN392 RD144 SD2 ED13 SN16
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- Borrell Mary Elizabeth Eton 3a 947 Dean George Eton 3a 947
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