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Hi im looking for a kate sainsbury . Just recently found out my nan has another sister but i cant seem to find her on here all i have is her name kate sainsbury and as far as im aware she lived in the glamorgan area along with my nan and their siblings iv tried googling her but no luck please any help would be truly greatfull many thanks for taking the time to read this. Ps ann e jones and herbert sainsbury are the parents of my nan thank you.

To give us a time-scale

When (year) were your Nan and her siblings born?
Do you when Kate (Possibly Catherine or Katherine) was born?

If someone was looking for my Nan's siblings, it would be around 1880. My children would be lookng for siblings for their Nan about 1915. And so it goes on!

Hi my nan was born in 1916 older siblings are 1907 onwards so id be around 1900 onward she was born in maybe pontypridd area or surrondings sorry i no its not much to go on but my aunts and uncles dont no a lot about her .

Have you found them in 1911 after they were married? If so, can you post the census please?

Looking at Sainsbury/Jones births, on Freebmd from Sep 1911 when mmn was first shown, have you considered this one?

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Sainsbury Lydia C Jones Pontypridd 11a 1043

Its possible that there is another Sainsbury/Jones couple. Only the certificate its self could confirm if she has the correct parents.

Natasha just for a ref point for helpers
as I see you have her on your tree, but 2 years out on birth

First name(s) MILDRED
Last name SAINSBURY
Birth year 1918
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name JONES
District PONTYPRIDD
County Glamorganshire
Country Wales
Volume 11A
Page 965
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain

I'm not seeing parent's marriage- was Annie married before?

Marriages Dec 1897
Donovan Mary Cardiff 11a 699
HABERFIELD Arthur William Cardiff 11a 699
Morgan Annie Cardiff 11a 699
Sainsbury Herbert Cardiff 11a 699

perhaps not this marriage- see 1901 census below

oh, or is this them?

Name: Herbert J Sainsbury
Age in 1901: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
Ecclesiastical parish: Pontypridd St Catherine
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household schedule number: 200
Piece: 4998 Folio: 56 Page Number: 34
Household Members:
Name Age
Evan J Jones 47
Elizabeth Jones 42
Ann E Jones 18
Evan T Jones 16
Edith M Jones 14
Charlotte L Jones 11
Margaret R Jones 8
Isabella Jones 3
Herbert J Sainsbury 19

This marriage?

Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
DAVIES Katie Pontypridd 11a 972
Jones Annie Elizabeth Pontypridd 11a 972 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Jones David William Pontypridd 11a 972
Sainsbury John Pontypridd 11a 972 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Who are the other siblings that you are aware of?

There's this John Saisbury in Pontypridd in 1911, says married 10 years, 1 child, Rebecca Evans is a servant, housekeeper.

John Sainsbury

in the 1911 Wales Census
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Name: John Sainsbury
Age in 1911: 41
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pontypool, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Pontypridd
Search Photos: Search for 'Pontypridd' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street address: 2 Richard Street Rhydyfelin Glam
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 15
Estimated Marriage Year: 1896
Occupation: House Aent
Registration district: Pontypridd
Registration District Number: 589
Sub-registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Household schedule number: 167
Piece: 32214
Household Members:
Name Age
John Sainsbury 41
Rebecca Evans 25
John Gordon Sainsbury 6

Couple of trees on Anc' one with Mildred one with Lydiia...neither seem to know much about parents

this marriage for Lydia

Marriages Jun 1935 (>99%)
Cousins Gordon A Sainsbury Pontypridd 11a 1349
Sainsbury Lydia C Cousine Pontypridd 11a 1349

A thread from Natasha in 2010 re her Nan's family BUT I'm sure there was something more recent

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1229749

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Sainsbary Household (2 People)
121 Norton Bridge , Pontypridd U.D., Glamorganshire, Wales

Herbert F Sainsbary 25 Nov 1881 Wsg General Labourer ( * could be Herbert J on image)
4 more people who are officially closed
Anne E Sainsbary ? ? 1882 ???

I had a feeling there was something more recent re Sainsbury family too!?

Hopefully Natasha will get back to us re the siblings she does know about. So we can confirm family.

(lol, not 'Dave' last week was it!, James, Wilts./Newport, Father William)

Chris :)

First name(s) HERBERT J
Last name SAINSBURY
Birth year 1881
Death year 1976
Age 95
Burial year 1976
Burial day 24
Burial month May
Place EASTERTON
County Wiltshire
Country England
Notes husb of Ann E
Reference 105883
Record set Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
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matches dob on the 1939

First name(s) HERBERT JOHN
Last name SAINSBURY
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 11
Birth year 1881
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1976
District DEVIZES
County Wiltshire
Volume 23
Page 1762
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index Transcription
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First name(s) ANN E
Last name SAINSBURY
Birth year 1883
Death year 1957
Age 74
Burial year 1957
Burial day 21
Burial month Dec
Place EASTERTON
County Wiltshire
Country England
Notes wife of Herbert J
Reference 105883
Record set Wiltshire Memorial Inscription Index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Did they go to Canada...and back?

just on the offchance

Herbert and a Mrs Sainsbury

Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
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First name(s) -
Last name SAINSBURY
Title MRS
Gender Female
Age 31
Birth year 1881
Marital status M
Occupation WIFE
Departure year 1912
Departure day 10
Departure month 4
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port SAINT JOHN NB
Destination SAINT JOHN NB
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name LAKE ERIE
Ship official number 110631
Ship master's first name A
Ship master's last name CAREY
Shipping line ALLAN LINE STEAMSHIP CO LTD
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port SAINT JOHN NB
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 24760
Ship registered tonnage 4814
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States

Sorry guys i had a hospital emergency.yes my family came from wiltshire my nan is mildred sainsbury and lydia is my nans sister was told recently that there is a kate but not sure all the details on her. As for them going to canada im un sure i can find out of my aunty but not many no so im trying to find out the rest on my own. I am ever so great full that everyone has taken the time to help thank you all .

Yes the recent thread was the one "Dave" deleted!

Natasha I have a direct line of Sainsburys from Wiltshire mostly West Lavington/Market Lavington which are a mile from easterton.

Do you have any info on Herbert's ancesters?

Jude

I was wondering where the information re Kate came from- did it come from your own family or other people researching Sainsbury families?

There was a Catherine E Sainsbury (Catherine is often shortened to Kate) born 1911 Devizes.

I had thought it was a possible child as I don't see Annie and Herbert/ John on the 1911 so perhaps they returned to his family in Wiltshire? However, that Catherine is the daughter of Herbert John Sainsbury and Mabel E R Edwards.

Is Lydia the only sibling that you know of?