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Andy
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26 Sep 2016 10:18 |
I don't know if this helps or not but I am the person who helped the channel 4 tv programme you were talking about because I have been researching the Loseby family of clockmakers. Edward Loseby (b-1785 d-1867) married Elisabeth (b-1786 d-1866) and they had 5 children. In order Edward Thomas Loseby (b-1817 d-1890), William John Loseby (b-1821 d-1841), Amos Loseby (b-1821 d-1880), Henry Edgar Loseby (b-1822 d-1876), and Mary Julia (b-1834 d-1834 aged 2 days) This whole generation died without having any children unless they were illegitimate. Andy
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Laura
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3 Jul 2016 08:53 |
Thank you. I think he's a distance cousin somewhere but that wouldn't be easy to find so unless I come across it by accident I think I'll just leave it for now. I really appreciate the other information you've been able to find for me though. Thank you all.
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ArgyllGran
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2 Jul 2016 10:24 |
Laura's not looking for a link between the Loseby's and the Pedges, Malyon.
She's looking for a link between the family of Tate Loseby (Florence's father) and the family of Edward T Loseby.
Which, sadly, we haven't been able to find.
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malyon
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1 Jul 2016 22:46 |
already posted this but its the only marriage for loseby and pedge looked further back but found none Marriages Sep 1918 Loseby Florence E ow H Pedge Barrow S. 7a 335 Scan available - click to view Pedge Francis Loseby BarrS. 7a 335
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Laura
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1 Jul 2016 22:04 |
Thank you all for your help. I think it's far back too I just wish I could find the link as I know they're related at some point.
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2016 13:27 |
I wonder if this is Richard's parents' marriage?
Richard Loseby mentioned in the record of Richard Loseby and Sarah Ward Name Richard Loseby Spouse's Name Sarah Ward Event Date 10 Aug 1775 Event Place Billesdon, Leicester, England
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2016 13:23 |
If there is any connection between the families, it must be very far back. There's no matching of places of birth .
Edward T's father Edward was born in Coventry, Warwickshre, per 1861 census.
Probably his baptism:
Edward Loseby in the Warwickshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812
Name: Edward Loseby Baptism Date: 23 Feb 1785 Baptism Place: Baginton, Warwickshire, England Father: Thomas Loseby Mother: Mary Loseby
And his marriage:
Thomas Gimpson Loasby England, Warwickshire Parish Registers Name Thomas Gimpson Loasby Event Type Marriage Event Date 14 Oct 1776 Event Place Holy Trinity, Coventry, Warwickshire, England Gender Male Spouse's Name Mary Daniel
His middle name makes me wonder if Arthur James Gimson, who was one of the executors of Edward T's Will might be a relative of some sort.
Tate Loseby's father Joseph, however, was born in Seagrave, Leics., and his father Richard in Billesdon, Leics.
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Jul 2016 12:01 |
(apologies there AG, was doing a 'quick job' of things earlier!)
Seems 'big' Edward, had Edward T, Henry Edgar and Amos, as 1861 posted, Father Edward occ. Watchmaker/Silversmith)
Chris :)
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/2d8472e9-862f-47f7-b434-be67036ada33
(to go with place of Baptism of Son Edward T. 1817)
edits
http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/437560?d=asc
(not sure if you heard from Diane!)
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ArgyllGran
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1 Jul 2016 09:54 |
I've already posted 1841 showing Joseph Loseby (Tate's father) with his parents Richard and Sarah.
Here they are again in 1851:
Richard Loseby in the 1851 England Census Name: Richard Loseby Age: 65 Estimated birth year: abt 1786 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah Loseby Gender: Male Where born: Bilsdon Civil Parish: Seagrave Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps: View related Ecclesiastical Parish County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England View image Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Sub-registration district: Barrow ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 102 Piece: 2087 Folio: 26 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Richard Loseby 65 - farmer Sarah Loseby 66 William Loseby 26 Joseph Loseby 24 - wheelwright Thomas Loseby 15
Richard & Sarah's marriage:
Richard Loseby in the England, Pallot's Marriage Index, 1780-1837 Name: Richard Loseby Spouse: Sarah Benskin Marriage Date: 15 Apr 1812 Parish: Seagrave
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Chris Ho :)
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1 Jul 2016 06:15 |
Quite a few items relating to Edward, Clockmaker on google search...
Chris :)
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24927/page/362/data.pdf
the estate of Amos Loseby, late of 4, Friar-lane, Leicester, in the county of Leicester, Silversmith, deceased (who died on the 25th day of May, 1880, at No.
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar#calendar
(Probate above)
24 May 1879 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England
LOCAL CHANCERY SUIT. Sir Henry Jackson, Q.C., in stating the ease of the plaintiff, Amos Loseby , of Leicester, said that for fifteen years the trustees, defendants, had been adminis- tering the estate of the testator of late Edward Loseby...(mention of Edward Thomas, and brother Henry, also a Henry Edgar Loseby, died 1875)
(probably lots more relating in Newspapers on family, you need subscriptions, either Find My Past, Genes or below)
http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=loseby&yearOfDeath=1869&page=6#calendar
(Probate of Father Edward. Silversmith, Clock and Watchmaker)
Deaths Dec 1867 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- LOSEBY Edward 82 Leicester 7a 139
07 August 1886 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England Tate Loseby, of Thrussington, was summoned for a similar ?? said that the Board had tried to make him pay 3d. a week, which was a penny
12 November 1898 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
MELTON MOWBRAY PETTY SESSIONS Tate Loseby, Samuel Porter. Kliza Catherine
21 July 1900 - Grantham Journal - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England
MELTON MOWBRAY POLICE-COURT Tate Loseby, in the employ and Burrows, steam cultivator proprietors, said kuew prisoner quite well, aud remembered seeing him Saturday ...”
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=loseby&yearOfDeath=1876&page=3#calendar
(Probate Henry Edgar Loseby. Watchmaker)
England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Henry Edgar Last name Loseby Gender Male Baptism year 1822 Baptism date 17 Jun 1822 Place Leicester County Leicestershire Father's first name(s) Edward Father's last name Loseby Mother's first name(s) Eliz.
(who is Father of Tate?, looking at 1871 a Joseph, so you need to work back from him, not sure they would be connected to 'other' Loseby's though, you would need to get Wills to find all names)
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SylviaInCanada
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1 Jul 2016 04:13 |
What makes you think Amos is an unusual name??
It was a biblical name that was very commonly used in many parts of England in the 18th and 19th centuries.
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 23:36 |
there is this marriage loseby/pedge Leicestershire area
Loseby Florence E ow H Pedge Barrow S. 7a 335 Scan available - click to view Pedge Francis Loseby BarrS. 7a 335
two births for marriage
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 23:19 |
Type Census Event Date 1841 Event Place St Martin, Leicestershire, England Residence Note Hotel Street Gender Male Age 20-24 Age (Original) 20 Birth Year (Estimated) 1817-1821 Registration District Leicester Book Number 7 Parish St Martin County Leicestershire Page Number 15 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 605/47 Affiliate Record Type Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Edwd Loseby M 50-54 Elizth Loseby F 50-54 Wm Loseby M 20-24 Henry Loseby M 15-19 Leicestershire Elizth Hall F 15-19 Leicestershire Joseph Aaron M 45-49
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 23:15 |
Amos Loseby England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Amos Loseby Event Type Death Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun Registration Year 1880 Registration District Leicester County Leicestershire Event Place Leicester, Leicestershire, England Age (available after 1866) 59 Birth Year (Estimated) 1821 Volume 7A Page 148 Line Number 17
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 23:11 |
Occupation Freeholder & Shareholder Relationship to Head of Household Head Birth Year (Estimated) 1818 Birthplace Shifnall, Shropshire, England Page Number 10 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 3173/7 Affiliate Record Type Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Edward T Laseby Head M 63 Shifnall, Shropshire, England Elizabeth Walter Boarder F 59 Danboro, Northamptonshire, England Annie Walter Boarder F 32 Danboro, Northamptonshire, England James W Walter Boarder M 24 The Friars, Leicestershire, England
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 23:05 |
1861 census
Registration District Leicester Residence Note Hotel Street Gender Male Age 43 Marital Status Unmarried Occupation Horological Science Relationship to Head of Household Son Visitor Birth Year (Estimated) 1818 Birthplace Shifnal, Shropshire Page Number 3 Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 2296 / 64 Affiliate Record Type Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Henry Edean Loseby Son M 38 Leicester, Edwd Thomas Loseby Son Visitor M 43 Shifnal, Shropshire Sophia Edge Servant F 17 Huncote, Leicestershire
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malyon
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30 Jun 2016 22:56 |
Edward Thomas Loseby England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
25 September 1817
Shifnal, Shropshire, England
residence:
Shifnal, Shropshire, England
father:
Edward Loseby
mother:
Elizabeth
William John Loseby England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
10 April 1819
SHIFNAL, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND
father:
Edward Loseby
mother:
Elizabeth
Amos Loseby England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
30 June 1820
Shifnal, Shropshire, England
residence:
Shifnal, Shropshire, England
father:
Edward Loseby
mother:
Elizabeth
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Laura
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30 Jun 2016 22:25 |
Thanks for your messages. Yes I saw that on the programme and it sparked me off to look into it. My mum told me that a Loseby in our family was a clockmaker and the name rang a bell with her, although we have no further information. Tate Loseby is my great great grandfather. I think that Edward had a brother called Amos too which may or may not help as it is an unusual name. There are so many Losebys that I'm struggling to find a link. Is there any other information which would help
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2016 21:48 |
Edward Thomas Loseby
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 christening: 25 September 1817 Shifnal, Shropshire, England residence: Shifnal, Shropshire, England father: Edward Loseby mother: Elizabeth
Edwd Thomas Loseley in the 1861 England Census Name: Edwd Thomas Loseley Age: 43 Estimated birth year: 1818 Relation: Son-in-law ???? (No, image says Son, visitor) Gender: Male Where born: Shifford, Shropshire, England Civil Parish: Leicester St Martin Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin Town: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 29 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 9 Piece: 2296 Folio: 64 Page Number: 3 Household Members: Name Age Edward Loseby 76 Elizabeth Loseby 75 Henry Edgar Loseley 38 - son, watchmaker Edwd Thomas Loseley 43 - horological science Sophia Edge 17 - servant
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jun 2016 21:47 |
Tate Loseby in the 1861 England Census Name: Tate Loseby Age: 7 Estimated birth year: 1854 Relation: Son Father's name: Joseph Loseby Mother's name: Ann Loseby Gender: Male Where born: Thrussington, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Thrussington County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar Sub-registration district: Barrow upon Soar ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 80 Piece: 2279 Folio: 133 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Loseby 34 - born Seagrave, Leics Ann Loseby 28 Joseph Loseby 8 Tate Loseby 7 Edgar Loseby 5 Harry W Loseby 3 Sarah J Loseby 1 Richard Loseby 2/12
Father Joseph:
Joseph Loseby in the 1841 England Census Name: Joseph Loseby Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Seagrave Hundred: East Goscote County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Barrow upon Soar Sub-registration district: Barrow upon Soar Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 593 Book: 14 Folio: 9 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Richard Loseby 54 Sarah Loseby 50 Jane Loseby 20 Mary Loseby 15 Joseph Loseby 14 Caroline Loseby 10 Thomas Loseby 5
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