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I would really appreciate some views on this as I am not sure I have got all the right records. Warning, long message!!

Birth: Mary Ellen Bury born 1907 Carlton, Victoria. Parents Mary Ann Banston & Geo Demestic Bury (as written on the record).

Marriage: Mary Ellen Bury married Jack Eudey 16 Sept 1933. Parents names on certificate are George Dimmella Bury, occupation: Chemist & Mary Ann Banston.

Death: George Bury. 3 Oct 1921 at Healesville, Victoria. Occupation: Retired Chemist. aged 82. Father: Richard Bury. Mother: particulars not known. Informant Mary Ann Bury wife 44 Napier St, Fitzroy. Buried 5 Oct 1921 Healesville Cemetery. Born Liverpool, England. How long in Australia: not known. Married: Fitzroy, Victoria when aged 68 years to Mary Ann Hall. 1 daughter Mary Ellen Bury age 14 years.

Marriage: George Dimmilla Bury. 11 May 1906 Congregational Church, Fitzroy. Widower 1901. 2 children both deceased. Age 46. Born Yorkshire, England. Occupation Gardener. Living 181 Wellington St, Collingwood. Usual address Strathmerton, Victoria. Parents: Richard Bury & Mary Ann Sutherland, both deceased. Mary Ann Hall
Widow 1904. 1 child - 1 child living. Born London, England. Living 181 Wellington St, Collingwood. Parents Willian Banston occupation Dealer & Emma Matilda Hall.

*Age on death certificate is 82 (1839). Age on marriage certificate is 46 (1860). Wife Mary Ann states on death certificate George was 68 years old when they married.

I can't find a George Dimella Bury born in Yorkshire or a Mary Ann Sutherland birth or marriage. I did find a Richard Clough Bury on the 1851 census England.

18 Miller St, Manchester.
Richard Clough Bury age 29 born Manchester 1822. Painter & Plasterer
Sarah Ann Bury age 20 born Liverpool 1821
Ellen Dunella Bury age 7 born Liverpool 1844
George Bury age 5 Born Liverpool 1846
William Sothern age 58 born Liverpool
Daniel Sothern age 15 born West Derby
Thomas Sothern age 13 born Liverpool

Marriage record for Richard Clough Bury & Sarah Ann Sothern 28 Mar 1842 Liverpool.

Baptism record found: George Bury - 22 Feb 1846 - St Peters Liverpool. Father Richard Clough Bury and Sarah Ann.

Death: Richard Clough Bury. July 1855 Emerald Hill, South Melbourne, Victoria. Occupation Painter. Aged 33 (1822). Born Manchester England. A wife, 1 son & 1 daughter at Emerald Hill (no names given).

* 1 son could be George Bury & 1 daughter could be Ellen Dimella Bury as on 1851 census.

*I think Richard Clough Bury's parents were Samuel Bury b1792 & Martha Dimella b1791.

The search was then on for the whereabouts ofGeorge Dimella Bury after Richard Bury's death in 1855 and before his marriage in 1906 in Fitzroy, Victoria.

Marriage: 28 Jan 1879 Trinity Church, Adelaide, South Australia. George Dimella Bury - single- age 31 - born 1848 - father Richard Clough Bury. To: Elizabeth Ann Langdon - single - age 22 - born 1857 - father Ebenezer Langdon.

Children to George & Elizabeth.
George Ebenezer Bury 1879 Hindmarsh, S.A. -1953
Amelia Helena Bury 1881 Adelaide S.A. -1958
Caroline Elizabeth Bury 1883 Thebarton, Hindmarsh -1883 Thebarton
Alexander Bury 1884- Thebarton, Hindmarsh - 1885 Thebarton
Hubert Bury 1886-1920 Collingwood, Victoria

Marriage: 8 May 1900 Baptist Church North Adelaide, South Australia. George Dimmilla Bury - widower - age 43 - born 1857 father Richard Bury. To Mary Wilson - widow - age 45 - born 1855 - father Thomas Cocks. (Not sure if that is Cocks or Cox)

I didn't find any records for children born in this marriage.

30 July 1897 Express & Telegraph Newspaper. George Demilla Bury mentioned as The Corporation Ranger giving prosecution evidence in court for an offence that had been committed.

22 Mar 1901 Adelaide Police Gazette. George Dimella Bury failed to appear, ordered to pay 3/9 in respect of support for 4 children.

10 June 1901 Adelaide Police Gazette. George Dimella Bury - unexecuted warrant for wife desertion.

I am confused by the different birth dates and ages given for George at different times, is it the right person found each time or is there another George? Was it the same George who was a Corporation Ranger, a gardener and a chemist? Have I got the correct parents for him on the 1851 census.....?

Please help me get this straight in my mind!

There is a big age difference between two of the following marriages. Do you know how old he is on the third one?


Bury George Dimella b1848 — 1879 South Australia Marriages 1842-1937 Trinity Church [adelaide], Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Bury George Dimmilla b1857 — 1900 South Australia Marriages 1842-1937 Baptist Church North Adelaide, Adelaide, South Australia, Australia

Bury George Dimmilla — — 1906 Victoria Marriages 1836-1942 Victoria, Australia

Sorry, I missed that you had given his age

Hi Trish
I suggest you ask the 'South Aus State Library' AND the 'VIC State Library' (for his later years) - they have an 'Ask a Librarian' service -(on-line) they will check their electoral rolls -and see IF there was only with that name.

Valerie
WAus

There has to be a connection ..............

from ancestry

Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1901 (Cathedral)

Name: Humphrey Harper Bury
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1836
Baptism Date: 1 Dec 1844
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: George Dimella Bury
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bury
Archive Roll: 766

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Abode:- Salford
Father occupation:- Cabinet Maker

Baptised same time ......


Name: Ellen Dimella Bury
Birth Date: 18 Jan 1833
Baptism Date: 1 Dec 1844
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: George Dimella Bury
Mother's name: Elizabeth Bury
Archive Roll: 766

Manchester, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930 (Cathedral)

Name: George Dimella Bury
Marriage Date: 2 Oct 1832
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Stokes Snallow
Archive Roll: 699

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George, Bachelor, of this Parish, Cabinet Maker

Elizabeth, Spinster, of this Parish

Witnesses:- Thomas Parry and William Coverly (his mark)

Unfortunately the witnesses are not going to be any help ........ Thomas Parry's name appears on several of the certificates, so he was what they call a "professional Witness", some one who was paid a couple of pennies to stand for a couple who didn't have any friends with them This was not uncommon in those days.

1851 Census

Name: George Dimella Bury
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bury
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Hulme
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Hulme
ED, institution, or vessel: 2am

Household schedule number: 44
Piece: 2221
Folio: 921
Page Number: 10

George Dimella Bury 35 cabinet Maker (Journeyman)
Elizabeth Bury 38 b.ca 1813, Manchester
Helen D Bury 18 b.ca 1833, Salford, Weaver by Power
Humphrey H Bury 14 b.ca 1837, Manchester, Cabinet Turner(apprentice)

Address:- 11 Robinson Street

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Manchester, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1901 (Cathedral)

Name: George Dimello Bury
Baptism Date: 1 Jan 1815
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Samuel Bury
Mother's name: Martha Bury
Archive Roll: 756

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Abode:- Salford
Father occupation:- Commercial Clerk


Bingo ............ origin of Dimella

Manchester, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1930

Name: Samuel Bury
Marriage Date: 18 Jan 1814
Parish: Manchester, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Manchester, St Mary
Spouse: Martha Dimella
Reference Number: GB127.M403/2/3/1

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Samuel --- of the Parish of Manchester, Book Keeper

Martha --- of the Parish of Manchester, Spinster

Witnesses:- John Alwick and James Roberts Clerk

James Roberts Clerk is on all 6 of the entries .... it is possible that it shoul;d be be James Roberts, Clerk??

from Lancashire Online Parish Clerks

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Baptism: 14 Jun 1791 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Martha Dimella - Daughter of George Dimella & Mary
Register: Baptisms 1791, Page 45
Source: LDS Film 2357002


two more baptisms, possibly the origin of the name Harper

Baptism: 25 Feb 1787 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Humphrey Harper Dimella - son of George Dimella & Mary
Register: Baptisms 1778 - 1789, Page 401, Entry 13160
Source: LDS Film 2357002


Baptism: 1 Nov 1789 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Elizh. Harper Dimella - Daughter of George Dimella & Mary
Register: Baptisms 1789, Page 22
Source: LDS Film 2357002


Marriage: 12 Feb 1786 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
George Dimella, Junr. - Fustian Manufacturer, this Parish and Town of Manchr.
Mary Harper - Spinster, Manchr.
Witness: Ann Bottomley; Richd. Varley
Married by Lic ye Revd. Mr. Joseph Eaton of Chester Surrogate by: Humphrey Owen
Notes: [Groom signed Geo. Dimella Junr.]
Register: Marriages 1786, Page 154, Entry 93
Source: LDS Film 2356674

George's 2nd wife's death in SA:
1899 266/95 BURY Elizabeth / George BURY (H) / Adelaide

His 3rd wife Mary had a child from a previous marriage:
Emma Matilda HALL born in Carlton in 1904 (reg 16403), shows parents as Jas HALL and Mary Ann BANSTON.

Mary's mother Emma Matilda BANSTON died in 1927 aged 82 in Collingwood (reg 5154). Her father's death notice: http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204094627

Good match for his mother's death in Victoria (also died young sadly):

Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888
Name: Sarah Ann BURY
Father: Unknown Sotherene
Mother: Unknown
Age: 32
Birth Place: LAN
Year/Reg: 1859/3026
Reg Number: 3026

There is also a Thomas BURY, born Lancs, who died in Victoria in 1878 aged 75 (reg 10178, parents not stated).

And a death for Samuel BURY, born Manchester, who died in 1860 aged 67, parents Samuel & Mary (nee CANNADY) (reg 4999).

Thank you all so much, I will go through all of this tomorrow as now I am about to take to my bed as I have come down with a stinking cold today!