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13 Jul 2016 18:44 |
I'm doing the Richardson side of my tree they all seem to have gone to USA could someone look up the censuses for me I have Ann Coffey married to Thomas Richardson not sure where they married Ann was born in Ireland 1810 Thomas in Scotland 1804 ancestry have 1851 census Wellington Canada & 1891 Canada she died Dec 1891 according to Find a grave I'm hoping they have their children with them so I can check on ages and where thet were born
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13 Jul 2016 18:50 |
Ann Richardson Canada Census, 1881 Name Ann Richardson Gender Female Age 71y Birth Year 1810 Birthplace Ireland Marital Status Married Ethnicity Irish Religion C Meth Head of Household Name Thomas Richardson Event Place Fergus, Wellington Centre, Ontario, Canada District Number 152 Sub-District B Page Number 64 Family Number 307 Affiliate Film Number C-13259 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Thomas Richardson M 76y Scotland Ann Richardson F 71y Ireland Agness Richardson F 40y England
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13 Jul 2016 18:56 |
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Agnes Richardson England Births and Christenings Name Agnes Richardson Gender Female Christening Date 07 Mar 1841 Christening Place SAINT MARY MAGDALENE,WOOLWICH,KENT,ENGLAND Birth Date 12 Feb 1841 Father's Name Thomas Richardson Mother's Name Ann
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13 Jul 2016 19:02 |
William Richardson
Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947 birth: 1843 death: 7 October 1910 West Garafraxa, Wellington, Ontario, Canada, Canada, Canada father: Thomas Richardson mother: Ann Coffee Thomas Coffie Richardson
Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947 birth: 1839 England death: 16 June 1918 Fergus Village, Wellington, Ontario burial: Fergus father: Thomas Richardson mother: Ann Coffie Margaret Richardson
Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947 birth: 1850 West Garapaxa, Wellington, Ont. death: 15 April 1878 Fergus, Wellington, Ontario father: Thomas Richardson
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13 Jul 2016 19:06 |
Thank you so it looks as though they didn't go to USA until later I've got children Mary Ann 1836Thomas Coffey 1839,Angness 1841,William 1843 Margaret1851 so The birth you've found matches Thank you
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13 Jul 2016 19:08 |
So they were in USA in1850
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13 Jul 2016 19:12 |
FreeReg Baptism entry on 13 Jul 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Woolwich If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Kent Place Woolwich Church name St Mary Magdalene Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1071 Baptism date 07 Mar 1841 Birth date 12 Feb 1841 Person forename Agnes Person sex F Person abode Jacksons Lane Father forename Thomas Father surname RICHARDSON Father occupation Gunner Royal Horse Artillery Mother forename Ann Register note Transcriber notes
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13 Jul 2016 19:18 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Woolwich Common, Woolwich, Greenwich, Kent, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Thomas Richardson Male 37 1804 Scotland Transcription Ann Richardson Female 33 1808 Ireland Transcription Jane Richardson Female 7 1834 - Transcription Marian Richardson Female 5 1836 - Transcription Thomas Richardson Male 2 1839 Kent, England Transcription Agness Richardson Female 0 1841 Kent, England
thomas is in the army
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13 Jul 2016 19:21 |
Thank you I've got somewhere that John was in the Royal Horse Artillery and you have the 1841 census
Thank you I was just trying to find them in 1841
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13 Jul 2016 20:09 |
British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
Learn more Print transcription View image First name(s) Thomas Last name Richardson Birth year 1804 Birth parish Roxburgh Birth county Roxburghshire Birth country Scotland Service number - Rank GUNNER Regiment Royal Horse & Field Artillery Year 1823 Attestation date 17 Nov 1823 Attestation age years 19 Discharge corps Royal Horse Artillery Document type Discharge Series WO 97 - Chelsea Pensioners British Army service records 1760-1913 Archive The National Archives Archive reference WO 97 Box 1258 Box record number 148 Record set British Army Service Records Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory Regimental & service records Collections from Great Britain
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13 Jul 2016 20:10 |
FreeReg Baptism entry on 13 Jul 2016 For information about this place follow the link to Roxburgh If you believe there to be an error in this transcription then please report it to our data manager. Field Value County Roxburghshire Place Roxburgh Church name Roxburgh Parish Register type Parish Register Baptism date 16 Sep 1804 Birth date 06 Aug 1804 Person forename Thomas Person abode Just rigg Father forename John Father surname RICHARDSON Mother forename Jane Mother surname ARMSTRONG Register note Transcriber notes
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13 Jul 2016 21:01 |
Thank you for that didn't think of looking at the forces record I had got his parents but it's nice to know I've got the right ones can I be cheeky and ask if you could get the 1851 census, with Margaret being born over there in 1850
Thank you Back tomorrow watching long lost families
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13 Jul 2016 21:22 |
Margaret Richardson
in the 1851 Census of Canada East, Canada West, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia Record Image View
View 1851 Form (Canada East/West) View 1851 Form (New Brunswick) View 1851 Form (Nova Scotia)
Name: Margaret Richardson Gender: Female Age: 1 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Birthplace: Canada West Province: Canada West (Ontario) District: Wellington County District Number: 39 Sub-district: Garafraxa Sub-District Number: 371 Household Members: Name Age Margaret Richardson 1
She's with: Thomas, 48, born Scotland Ann, 42, born Ireland Mary, 16, born England Thomas, 14, " Agnes, 11, " William, 9, " John, 2, born Canada West Margaret, 1, "
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13 Jul 2016 21:56 |
as thomas was in the army he could of met ann in ireland there are about 10 or so thomas richardson's married 1830 plus or minus 5 years it's £18 for a months subscription
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14 Jul 2016 11:45 |
Thank you for all your help, I'll leave the marriage for the time being this couple as yet don't belong to my tree but hoping to connect them one day
Thank you Sylvia
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14 Jul 2016 12:02 |
Anyone can search the Canadian census thru 1916 and get free images via: http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx However, I don't really like the search facility - my preference is to do a free search at Ancestry - I don't have a sub, so I only get limited details, but I can determine the age and spelling of the names I wish to check out (LAC uses the Ancestry transcription). It also can be useful to add a keyword for LAC - I used Wellington.
Another free site for some years is AG: http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html and I've used their transcriptions - for the missing years (1861-1891), I use my own transcription.
1851 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002371837.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002371838.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002371839.pdf [blank] Home / 1852 / Canada West / Wellington (county) / 371 Garafraxa township / p. 14d, 15a, (29) 20 Richardson, Thomas Farmer Scotland Presbyterian 48 M 21 Richardson, Ann Ireland Presbyterian 42 F 22 Richardson, Mary England Presbyterian 16 F 23 Richardson, Thomas England Presbyterian 14 M 24 Richardson, Agness England Presbyterian 11 F 25 Richardson, William England Presbyterian 9 M 26 Richardson, John Canada West Presbyterian 2 M 27 Richardson, Margaret Canada West Presbyterian 1 F
NB 47 Shand, Warden Farmer Scotland Presbyterian 34 M
1861 - seems like it was filmed twice District Name: Wellington Sub-District Name: Garafraxa http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108429_00566.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391573_00603.pdf
District Name: Wellington Sub-District Name: Garafraxa http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108429_00561.pdf http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4391573_00598.pdf
District Name: Wellington Sub-District Name: Elora http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1861/pdf/4108429_00190.pdf
1871 District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Garafraxa West http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396615_00572.pdf [All excl Mary in 3 adjacent (on census page) h/h's]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Elora http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1871/pdf/4396297_00449.pdf [Mary]
1881 District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Fergus http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008191892.pdf [Agnes + parents]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Garafraxa West http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008192169.pdf [Thos]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Garafraxa West http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008192170.pdf [Wm]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Elora http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008191899.pdf [Mary A]
1891 District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Fergus (Village) http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148178-00421 [Agnes]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Garafraxa West http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148178-00450 [Thos & Wm]
District Name: Wellington Centre Sub-District Name: Elora (Village) http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1891&op=pdf&id=30953_148178-00402 [Mary A]
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON WELLINGTON (Centre) (#124) Subdistrict: Fergus C-2 Page 14 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6504 27 174 Richardson Agnes F Head S Feb 12 1841 60 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113255.pdf [Agnes immig 1846] Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113241.pdf [addy left blank, but was probly Hill St]
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON WELLINGTON (Centre) (#124) Subdistrict: Garafraxa (West/Ouest) E-1 Page 5 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6504 27 53 Richardson Thomas M Head M Jan 1 1839 62 28 53 Richardson Annie F Wife M Jul 17 1845 55 29 53 Richardson Harriet M F Daughter S May 5 1879 21 30 53 Richardson Frank R M Son S Apr 28 1881 19 31 53 Richardson Adeline M F Daughter S Jan 17 1883 18 32 53 Richardson Thomas A M Son S Dec 18 1884 16 33 53 Richardson Eleanor E F Daughter S Apr 15 1888 12 -------------------- 42 55 Richardson William M Head M May 8 1843 57 43 55 Richardson Jane F Wife M May 7 1849 51 44 55 Richardson Ann J F Daughter S Sep 22 1872 28 45 55 Richardson Edeth F Daughter S Sep 9 1874 26 46 55 Richardson William S M Son S Mar 23 1877 24 47 55 Richardson Alfred W M Son S Sep 14 1885 15 48 55 Richardson Stanley D M Son S Dec 16 1887 13 49 55 Richardson George H M Son S Sep 29 1891 10 50 55 Richardson Millie M F Daughter S Sep 17 1893 7 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113316.pdf [Thos & Wm both immig 1846] Sched 2: P5 L27 addy= W1/2 3-3-W; P5 L42 addy= W1/2 4-3-W http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113310.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON WELLINGTON (Centre) (#124) Subdistrict: Elora (Village) B-2 Page 9 Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6504 5 107 Hay Mary A F Head W Aug 10 1836 64 6 107 Hay Agnes F Daughter S Jun 16 1869 31 7 107 Hay Edw A M Son S Nov 22 1879 21 [On line 5, the value for the household field is "107", the suggested correction is "105".] http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113214.pdf [Mary Ann immig 1846] Sched2 P9 L5 addy=2 Princess St http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1901/z/z003/pdf/z000113204.pdf
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14 Jul 2016 12:03 |
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Wellington South / 52 Fergus / page 11 1 141 Richardson Agnes F Head S Feb 1841 70 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002036186.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Wellington South / 51 Fergus / page 4 8 45 Richardson Thomas C M Head M Jan 1839 72 9 45 Richardson Annie F Wife M Jul 1846 65 10 45 Richardson Harriett M F Daughter S May 1882 29 11 45 Richardson Adaline M F Daughter S Jan 1884 27 12 45 Richardson Ellonor E F Daughter S Apr 1888 23 13 45 Richardson Robert Thomas M Grandson S May 1904 7 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002036162.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Wellington North / 7 Garafraxa West / page 5 33 57 Richardson Willam M Head S Mar 1877 34 34 57 Richardson Jane F Mother W May 1848 62 35 57 Richardson Stanley M Brother M Dec 1893 23 36 57 Richardson Gertrude F Sister-in-law M Oct 1883 22 37 57 Richardson Milly ? Sister S Sep 1894 17 38 57 Richardson William M Nephew S Feb 1908 3 39 57 Richardson John M Nephew S Oct 1909 1 40 57 Richardson Irvine M Nephew S May 1911 21 days http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002034931.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Wellington South / 49 Elora / page 6 8 69 Hay Maryann F Head W Aug 1836 74 9 69 Hay Agnes F Daughter S Jun 1870 40 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002036138.pdf
Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via: http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991 [Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]
Since it can be difficult to get bounce-free, I've pm'ed the 2 1921 images to Sylann
Name: Agnes Richardson Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 80 Birth Year: abt 1841 Birth Place: England Relation to Head of House: Head Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: Ireland Year of Immigration: 1846 Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish) Province or Territory: Ontario District: Wellington South District Number: 140 Sub-district: Fergus (Village) Sub-District Number: 38 City, Town or Village: Fergus Street or Township: Hill St Municipality: Fergus Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Agnes Richardson 80
Name: Jane Richardson Gender: Female Marital Status: Single Age: 72 Birth Year: abt 1849 Birth Place: Ontario Relation to Head of House: Head Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: England Racial or Tribal Origin: Scotch (Scotish) Province or Territory: Ontario District: Wellington South District Number: 140 Sub-district: Fergus (Village) Sub-District Number: 38 City, Town or Village: Fergus Street or Township: Tower St Municipality: Fergus Occupation: Income Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane Richardson 72
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There are many hits at findagrave, e.g.,
Thos http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=69317072 Ann http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=69317052 [Birth: Aug. 4, 1810 County Westmeath, Ireland Death: Dec. 29, 1891] Mary http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=12633227 [Spouse: George Hay (1824 - 1900)] Thos http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=73642525 [Spouse: Annie Buckland Richardson (1846 - 1916)] Ag http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=69317063 Wm http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=52934767 [Spouse: Jane Sandy Richardson (1849 - 1927)*] Mgt http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=64028912
Thomas "Soldier" Richardson Birth: Jul. 16, 1804 Roxburgh Scottish Borders, Scotland Death: Dec. 10, 1892 Fergus Wellington County Ontario, Canada Son of John Richardson; husband of Ann Coffey, married 1829. According to death record, member of "Her Majesty's Royal Horse Artillery". Family links: Spouse: Ann Coffey Richardson (1810 - 1891)* Children: Mary Ann Richardson Hay (1836 - 1917)* Thomas Coffey Richardson (1839 - 1918)* Agnes Richardson (1841 - 1923)* William Richardson (1843 - 1910)* Margaret Richardson (1851 - 1878)* *Calculated relationship Burial: Belsyde Cemetery Fergus Wellington County Ontario, Canada
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/Images/Maps/TownshipMaps/weli-m-garafraxa-w.jpg
I think this is Thos's lot - note it's the lot his eldest son is on in 1901. Also, in 1951-2, he's living near a W Shand who seems to be occupying Conc 3 Lot 5 (W 1/2) There's no compass rose on the concession map - N is the top right corner
Full record for Richardson, T. Last Name Richardson First Name T. Township Garafraxa West County Wellington Atlas Date 1877
Concession and Lot Lot size III, 3 100
If you go to https://www.google.com/maps/ and look up Shands Ontario, it's abt 5km NE of Fergus, on County Rd 18 (and the Grand R) at the junction with Line Rd 2. Go to satellite view, and you can see there are 5 lots on Line Rd 2 between County 18 and the Elamosa-Garafraxa Townline. The Richardson's owned the middle one one the NE side of Line Rd 2.
Most later ON double lots (200 ac) are 20 chns x 100 chns and usually halved to 20 x 50 chns (80chns = 1 mile). I guess this is an early lot, and is 33.33 chns x 30 chns (as a halved double lot).
Even in the 1840s, there was a lot of pressure to get land surveyed and settled. The govt were keen to fill the countryside with potential militiamen - it was only 30 y since the US had marched up the Thames valley from the Niagara-Detroit frontier, destroying farms en route to destroying Toronto. So there wasn't really any standard enforced - as soon as a township was surveyed, it was opened up for settlement.
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You can check out some records at: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=CANADA
Civil registration began 1869 in Ontario. Recent records are closed - BMDs are closed for 97/82/70 y - technically, deaths are not closed, but there's no public index for 70y.
E.g., https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JNGT-2Z4 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDVR-C5C
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14 Jul 2016 20:52 |
Thank you for all your help and time spent getting all of the info it will make a good night time read possibly keep me awake thinking about it
I received the censuses you sent me
Thank you again Sylvia
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