Joseph Cooper in the UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services, 1853-1928 Name: Joseph Cooper Gender: Male Birth Date: 21 Aug 1892 <<<<< Birth Place: Islington, London Occ: Van Guard Service number: J2860 First Service Date: 19 Aug 1908 First Ship Served On: Ganges Last Service Date: 20 Aug 1922 Last Ship Served On: Danae
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Ethel Beatrice Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Ethel Beatrice Cooper Spouse: Charles Hull Record Type: Banns Event Date: 29 May 1921 Parish: St Andrew, Enfield Borough: Enfield Register Type: Parish Register
Ethel Beatrice Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Ethel Beatrice Cooper (Spinster) 111 Bertram Road Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Age: 26 Spouse: Arthur Charles Hull (Bachelor) Labourer Spouse Age: 25 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 9 Jun 1921 Parish: St Andrew, Enfield Borough: Enfield Father Name: William Frederick Cooper (Chef) Spouse Father: Arthur Hull (Labourer) Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: William F Cooper and Stanley Cooper
Ethel Beatrice Hull in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ethel Beatrice Hull Birth Date: 3 Apr 1894 Date of Registration: Jun 1971 Age at Death: 77 Registration district: Bedford Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 109
Arthur Charles Hull in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Arthur Charles Hull Birth Date: 21 Aug 1895 Date of Registration: Jun 1969 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: Bedford Inferred County: Bedfordshire Volume: 4a Page: 81
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Julia Mary ?? Not sure about the baptism, unless she was 15 when baptised.
EDIT: Yes, the image says "adult" in the margin.
Julia Mary Johnson in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Julia Mary Johnson Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Dec 1878 Father's name: Thomas Johnson Mother's name: Sarah Jane Johnson Parish or Poor Law Union: Saint Peter, West Dulwich Borough: Lambeth Register Type: Parish Registers
Julia M Johnson in the 1871 England Census Name: Julia M Johnson Age: 8 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Johnson Mother's name: Sarah J Johnson Gender: Female Where born: Mile End, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Lambeth Sub-registration district: Kennington First ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Household schedule number: 125 Piece: 672 Folio: 16 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Johnson 37 Sarah J Johnson 36 Sarah A Johnson 10 Julia M Johnson 8 Stephen T Johnson 6 Fanny C Johnson 4 George F Johnson 3 Clara L Johnson 1
Julia M. Johnson in the 1881 England Census Name: Julia M. Johnson Age: 18 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Thomas Johnson Mother: Sarah J. Johnson Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 17 Catherine St Occupation: Machinist (S) Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second ED, institution, or vessel: 37 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 598 Folio: 116 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Johnson 47 Sarah J. Johnson 46 Julia M. Johnson 18 Stephen T. Johnson 16 George F. Johnson 12 Clara L. Johnson 10 Louisa C.R. Johnson 8 Ellen G. Johnson 5 Arthur C. Johnson 3 Sophia Johnson 1
Julia Mary Johnson in the 1891 England Census Name: Julia Mary Johnson Age: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Thomas Johnson Mother's name: Sarah Jane Johnson Gender: Female Where born: London, England Civil Parish: St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Reading County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Reading ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 992 Folio: 122 Page Number: 29 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Johnson 58 Sarah Jane Johnson 57 Julia Mary Johnson 29 Louisa Caroline Rodney Johnson 18 Ellen G Johnson 15 Arthur Charles Johnson 13 Sophia Johnson 10
Then in 1901 she's listed as Cooper, as posted by PH.
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Mary Ann Crutwell in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Mary Ann Crutwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 2 Jul 1854 Father's name: John Crutwell ....Master Mariner...2? Patterson Street Mother's name: Mary Ann Crutwell Parish or Poor Law Union: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints Borough: Tower Hamlets Register Type: Parish Registers
Births Jun 1854 (>99%) Crutwell Mary Ann Stepney 1c 517
I will be interested to know what you think Rosemarie.
Prickles. :-)
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Here is Julia's son Joseph on the 1911 census.......
Joseph Cooper in the 1911 England Census Name: Joseph Cooper Age in 1911: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1892 Relation to Head: Boarder Gender: Male Birth Place: Barnsbury, London, England Civil Parish: Aveley County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: 4 Coronation Cottage, Mill Rd, Aveley, Essex Marital Status: Single Occupation: Railway Porter Registration district: Orsett Household Members:
George Thorogood 58 Lavinia Thorogood 55 Harry Thorogood 22 Joseph Cooper 19 <<<<< George Tyler 23
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Mary Ann's daughter Edith Mary is a patient on the 1901 census
Ecclesiastical parish: All Angels and St Michael County/Island: London Country: England
She appears as..........Edith Amry Medow Cooper
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William Frederick on the 1891 census........
William F Cooper in the 1891 England Census Name:William F Cooper Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation:Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Braintree, Essex, England Civil Parish:Clerkenwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks Town:London County/Island: London Country: England
Household Members:
Samuel P Kilburn 66 Annie Kilburn 58 Henry Stone 32 Elizabeth Stone 22 Frank C Law 28 William F Cooper 33 (Single!) Pastry Cook.....Conf (Confectioner) Henry Walden 29 James Parker 19 George E Robinson 20
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Mary Ann in 1891.......
Name: Mary Ann Cooper Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Lewisham Ecclesiastical parish: St Michaels Town: Lewisham Sydenham Hill County/Island: London Country: England
Household Members:
Mary Ann Cooper 36 (Married) William F Cooper 8 Percey Cooper 3 Edith Cooper 2 Emily Cooper 1/12
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Births Dec 1882 (>99%) Cooper William Frederick Lewisham 1d 1116
?? Births Sep 1887 (>99%) COOPER Percy Islington 1b 201
Births Sep 1888 (>99%) COOPER Edith Mary Lewisham 1d 1124
Births Jun 1891 (>99%) Cooper Emily Annie Lewisham 1d 1201
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This might be the Grandson who appears on the 1881 census age 4 weeks?
Arthur John Cooper in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Arthur John Cooper Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Registration Year: 1881 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Lewisham Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 597
Mary A Cooper in the 1901 England Census Name: Mary A Cooper Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Stepney, London, England Civil Parish: Lewisham
Household Members:
Mary A Cooper 45 (Married) Emily A Cooper 10
Mary Ann Cooper in the 1911 England Census Name: Mary Ann Cooper Age in 1911: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Stepney, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Enfield County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: 111 Bush Hill Pk, Bertram Rd, Enfield Marital Status: Married Registration district: Edmonton
Household Members:
Mary Ann Cooper 50 Percy Cooper 23 Edith Mary Cooper 22 Emily Annie Cooper 20 Ethel Beatrice Cooper 16 Frederick Cooper 15 Stanley Cooper 14 Harold Cooper 12
Married 32 years........12 children born, 9 living , 3 had died.
Julia in 1901........
Julia Cooper in the 1901 England Census Name: Julia Cooper Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1863 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Mile End, London, England Civil Parish: Edmonton Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter County/Island: Middlesex Country: England
Household Members:
Julia Cooper 38 Married (Husband Chef away) Joseph Cooper 8 Barnsbury, London Ethel Cooper 6 Barnsbury, London Fred Cooper 5 Barnsbury, London Stanley Cooper 4 Barnsbury, London Harold Cooper 2 Edmonton, Middlesex
I think these baptism's prove that the children with Mary Ann Cooper on the 1911 census, are actually the children of Julia Mary!
Joseph Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Joseph Cooper Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1892 Born: 21st Aug 1892 Father's name: William Frederick Cooper....Confectioner...117 Barnsbury Road Mother's name: Julia Mary Cooper Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Ethel Beatrice Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Ethel Beatrice Cooper Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 May 1894 Born: 3rd Apr 1894 Father's name: William Frederick Cooper....Pastry Cook Mother's name: Julia Mari Cooper Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
Stanley Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Stanley Cooper Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Oct 1896 Born: 25th Aug 1896 Father's name: William Frederick Cooper ...Cook...162 Barnsbury Road <<<<<<<<< Mother's name: Julia Mary Cooper Parish or Poor Law Union: Islington St Mary Borough: Islington Register Type: Parish Registers
On the same page.......
William Cooper......Born: 24th Aug 1892
There must be an error on one of the baptism records..
If Joseph was born 21st Aug 1892.......Frederick could not have been born..24th Aug 1892.
??
Births Sep 1895 (>99%) Cooper Frederick Islington 1b 318
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Hi Rosemarie.
Rosemarie posted a request on the "Quizzes and Games" board.........
"Looking for my Grandads family. Parents William Frederick and Julia Mary Cooper (nee Johnson) living at 162 Barnsbury Road, Islington when my Grandad Stanley Cooper was born in 1896 with brothers Joseph, Frederick and sister Ethel. Found them on 1901 census living in Chester Road Edmonton with a new child Harold but no sign of their father William Frederick. Found them again on the 1911 census Children now in Bertram Road Enfield in but no sign of their Mother Julia or elder brother Joseph. Other members living at the address must be relatives Mary Ann, Edith Mary, Emily Annie and Percy Cooper. Living relatives say William Frederick had left the family and gone to America??? Please can anyone one help me find out how the Enfield family are related to my Coopers and what happened to my Grandads mother Julia Mary?"
(PM sent to Rosemarie)
I have been doing some research and will post all my findings......
Rosemarie........Do you know when and where William Frederick Cooper was born??.......and who his parents were?
When and where did he marry Julia Mary Johnson??.......I am not seeing a marriage for that couple!
It is my guess (feel free to correct me if I am wrong) that William Frederick Cooper was born 1858 Baintree, Essex
Births Mar 1858 (>99%) Cooper William Frederick Braintree 4a 327
The son of Joseph Cooper and Caroline Craske.
William on the 1881 census........ William Cooper in the 1881 England Census Name: William Cooper Age:,23 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relationship to Head: Son Spouse: Mary A. Cooper Father: Joseph Cooper Mother: Caroline Cooper Gender: Male Where born Braintree, Essex, England Civil Parish Lewisham County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Cranston Rd Marital Status: Married Occupation: Confectioner Jobber <<<<< Registration district: Lewisham Sub registration district: Sydenham Household Members:
Joseph Cooper 57 Caroline Cooper 54 William Cooper 23 Married...Confectioner.......?? Mary A. Cooper 26 Married.....Daughter in Law Joseph Cooper 24 Alfred Cooper 15 Arthur Cooper 4 wks? Grandson
His marriage to Mary Ann........
William Frederick Cooper in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Frederick Cooper (Bachelor) Baker Spouse: Mary Ann Crutwell (Spinster) Record Type:Marriage Event Date: 18 Jan 1880 Parish: St Mary Magdalene, Bermondsey Borough: Southwark Father Name: Joseph Cooper (Miller) Spouse Father: John Crutwell (Captain in Merchant Service) Deceased Register Type: Parish Register Witnesses: William Reed and Ann Mary Noble
If my information is correct......I believe that even though William was married to Mary Ann, he also had children with Julia Mary (Who he didn't actually marry?) and Mary Ann ended up with 4 of William and Julia's children on the 1911 census.
How do you know Julia Mary's maiden name was Johnson??
Give me a few mins to post all the other info........
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