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Erry61
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31 Jul 2016 20:31 |
Hi to all' This is a one that has me baffled can anyone help; Frank Heslop b1892 Shildon died in france 1918, married a Lavinia Lightfoot in 1914,they had 2 children Edna b1915 and Thomas b1917 they were living in Chopwell Co.Durham. I have looked for another Marriage for Lavinia but failed to find anything,also looked for Marriages and deaths of the children but nothing turning up anyone got any ideas.
Thanks to all for you help. david
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alviegal
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31 Jul 2016 20:39 |
Could this be a marriage for Edna? Her birth gives M as a middle name.
England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription
First name(s) EDNA M Last name HESLOP Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1939
MarriageFinder™ EDNA M HESLOP married JOSEPH W BENNETT Spouse's last name BENNETT District DURHAM NORTH WESTERN District number - County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 679
EDIT This would be them.
Bennett Household (2 People) 34 Durham Road , Consett U.D., Durham, England
Edna M Bennett 22 Dec 1914 Female Unpaid House Duties Married 37 1 J William Bennett 22 Sep 1909 Male Ohms Married 37 2
Edna's birth was registered first quarter 1915 so a birth in Dec 1914 would fit.
First name(s) EDNA M Last name HESLOP Birth year 1915 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's last name LIGHTFOOT District GATESHEAD
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Erry61
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31 Jul 2016 20:41 |
That could be her thank you could be a new avenue to explore
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2016 20:41 |
Could this be a possible marriage for Lavinia? :-
First name(s) LAVINIA Last name HESLOP Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1937 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ LAVINIA HESLOP married ALBERT H EMERY Spouse's last name EMERY District LANCHESTER District number - County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 614
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2016 20:44 |
Possible death for the Lavinia in my previous post:-
First name(s) LAVINIA Last name EMERY Gender Female Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1894 Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1969 District DURHAM NORTH WESTERN County Durham Volume 1A Page 1437 Country England
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2016 20:45 |
This would be Lavinia's birth:-
First name(s) LAVINIA Last name LIGHTFOOT Birth year 1894 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's last name - District LANCHESTER County Durham Country England Volume 10A Page 362 Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
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alviegal
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31 Jul 2016 20:47 |
Lavinia's burial?
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription
First name(s) LAVINIA Last name EMERY Birth year 1894 Death year 1969 Age 75 Burial year 1969 Burial day 17 Burial month 1 Place CONSETT Church description BLACKHILL CEMETERY
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2016 20:50 |
Lavinia badly transcribed in the 1939 register:-
Enery Household (2 People) 13 Armstrong Street , Consett U.D., Durham, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS
Lovinai Enery 31 Mar 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married Albert H Enery 09 Jan 1887 Male Disabled Solderer (should be soldier) Married
There is a third person at the address whose record is closed.
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alviegal
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31 Jul 2016 20:55 |
Just going by the area and cemetery, I wonder if this may be Thomas?
National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription
First name(s) THOMAS Last name HESLOP Birth year 1918 Death year 1950 Age 32 Burial year 1950 Burial day 5 Burial month 7 Place CONSETT Church description BLACKHILL CEMETERY Church denomination CEMETERY
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Erry61
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31 Jul 2016 20:57 |
Thank you Kath you have been a tremendous help Consett is my local town bit more investigating i think.
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Erry61
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31 Jul 2016 21:06 |
Also to Alviegal great help
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safc
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31 Jul 2016 21:08 |
Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1969 Lavinia Emery abt 1894 12 Armstrong Street, Blackhill
Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1950 Thomas Heslop abt 1918 22 Eltringham Street, Blackhill
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/
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KathleenBell
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31 Jul 2016 21:08 |
This gives Frank's army number (you probably have this already):-
First name(s) FRANK Last name HESLOP Service number 56792 Rank PRIVATE Regiment East Yorkshire Regiment Battalion 7th Battalion. Birth place CHOPWELL, CO. DURHAM Residence CHOPWELL Enlistment place GATESHEAD Death year 1918 Death day 4 Death month 11 Cause of death Killed in action Death place France & Flanders Theatre of war Western European Theatre Supplementary Notes - Category Military, armed forces & conflict Subcategory First World War Collections from Great Britain
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Chris Ho :)
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31 Jul 2016 21:13 |
Cemetery Registers Lanchester 1947 Albert H. Emery (abt 1887) 12 Armstrong Street, Blackhill
http://www.durhamrecordsonline.com/
(from above link)
Chris :)
(Frank on below, should be on Ancestry also)
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#calendar
(Soldiers Wills)
Edits (Lavinia there also, 1969)
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alviegal
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31 Jul 2016 21:34 |
This is the probate for Thomas above, who died in 1950. He died 1 July 1950 at The Steel Works Consett. Administration was to his widow, Elizabeth Audrey Heslop.
Name: Thomas Heslop
Probate Date: 5 Sep 1950
Registry: Durham, England
Death Date: 1 Jul 1950
Death Place: Durham, England
Oh dear, it was an accident.
eleven deaths from carbon MONOXIDE Serious Escape ' from Blast furnace, Says Management 28 MEN IN HOSPITAL The accident at
“... (55). Leadgate; Thomas Heslop (35), Blackhill. Joseph Humble (44). Consett: Thomas C. Easton (46). Blackhill. John Jeffrey, Leadgate; Frank Crawley, Blackhill; Arthur Briggs, Castleside; John S. Craggs, Castleside; Henry Tucker, Consett; Alan Kirby, Blackhill ...” 03 July 1950 - Aberdeen Journal - Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
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Erry61
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31 Jul 2016 21:38 |
I had no idea he was married until i looked up his military career found when he died his effects were left to his wife Lavinia. Just goes to show
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safc
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31 Jul 2016 21:41 |
Doc True (purchased)
11 DIE PLANT 11 DIE PLANT Crescent, Cast leside; Arnold William Ross (54i. of Tyne Avenue. Leadgate: Harrv Tucker i49i. of Cedar Gardens. Consett; Thomas Heslop i32>, of Eitringham Street. Blackhtll: Francis Crawley i3si. of Roger Street, Blackhill; Arthur Briggs <3l l. of Moorland 03 July 1950 - Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette - Sunderland, Tyne and W
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1 Aug 2016 10:51 |
http://madeofsteel.co.uk/accident-consett-ironworks-company/
Report in The Hansard.
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1 Aug 2016 14:30 |
I know it's not what you're looking for, but the CWGC site gives this hit:
HESLOP, F Rank: Private Service No: 56792 Date of Death: 04/11/1918 Regiment/Service: East Yorkshire Regiment 7th Bn. Grave Reference: V. C. 16. Cemetery: ROMERIES COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION
If you look at the attached documents, in particular, the Concentration, you'll see he was initially buried at: Sheet 51a, X.28.c.1.9, presumably very close to where he fell.
These are standard Trench map coordinates - X.28 identifies a 1000 x 1000 yd square and the following letter identifies a quadrant, numbered as:
a b d c
so the SE quadrant. The next two numbers, in the range 0-9, identify a 50 yd easting, then a 50yd northing, in this case pretty close to the centre of the entire X28 square. For reference, Romieres is in W.21, so he fell abt 7000 yds E of where he's now buried.
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Ancestry has a collection called:
UK, WWI War Diaries (France, Belgium and Germany), 1914-1920
which contains the war diaries of most infantry units in France/Belgium. These unit war diaries say what each unit (e.g., 7th battalion) was doing on a day by day basis
Also of possible interest: http://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/army/order-of-battle-of-divisions/17th-northern-division/
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