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Can anyone find a suitable death please?

According to the 1939 Register, he was born on 13 Mar 1907 which ties in with

Frederick Waller
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 656

In 1939, he and his wife (who died 1945) were living at
33 Henderson Road, Edmonton.
He was still listed there on the ER in 1946.

I can't find a death reg which matches with his dob, even assuming that the informant was a bit 'off''

Please be aware that he had a son with the same name 4 Mar 1928 - 3 Sep 2004 who married in 1949 and lived until his death in Cheddington Road, N18 (Edmonton) - Frederick Jnrs wife could still be living.

Thank you.

Have you ruled out this one please?

Frederick Waller
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1907
Date of Registration: Feb 1990
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Hastings and Rother
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 919


EDIT

Not this one, he's a house painter and living in Hastings in 1939

Hi Detective,

Did he have amiddle name that you know of please. There is this one.


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name: Frederick L Waller
Birth: abt 1906
Death: Sep 1946 - Romford, Essex, England

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries
Name: Fred Waller
Birth: 8 Jun 1908
Death: Dec 1999 - epping Forest, Essex, England

Do you know what his sons occupation was?

Image of 1939 register (listed under Wally) gives his birth as 19th March 1907

Thank you for correcting the day of birth Austin Q. I was to busy trying to sort out the Waller/Wally error!

No - I don't know what Frederick Jnrs occupation was.

No - Frederick 1907 doesn't appear to have a middle initial.

At least we can now rule out the Hastings Death! TBH, I'd expect his death to have been Edmonton/Enfield or possibly N London/Waltham Forest

OH is anxious to go out. Back later.

Possible remarriage for him in 1946 to Alice M Allen. This appears to be her on 1939 register:

48 Causeyware Road , Edmonton M.B., Middlesex, England
Alice M Waller (Allen) 12 Dec 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Reginald V Allen 10 Apr 1904 Male Chemical Factory Maintainance Fitter (Heavy Worker Married
Alice M Lee (Ferrett) 31 Dec 1904 Female Hank Cotton Winder (Heavy Worker) Widowed

Alice M and Frederick still listed together in 1951 electoral register at 48 Causeyware Road , Edmonton (but neither living there in 1952)

Thank you AustinQ. It's always possible that he's been transcribed on the index as WalTer. If we can find when/where Alice died, he might be in the same locality.

Well, I've searched (and searched some more!), - this has me stumped. I can't find a definite death for either of them. Hopefully someone else can see what I can't

It's odd...

Alice M is Alice Mabel Frier ( m Allen )

Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Frier Alice Mabel Faversham 2a 1031

and there is this


Frederick George Waller
Monument: Mercantile Marine Memorial - WW2

Rank Ordinary Seaman
Unit S.S. Holystone (Newcastle-on-Tyne)
Regiment Merchant Navy
Died 15-02-1941, age 17
Notes Son of William Frederick and Alice Mabel Waller, of Bush Hill Park, Enfield, Middlesex.
Reference Panel 57.

Edit so this is the William Frederick as above

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) WILLIAM FREDERICK
Last name WALLER
Gender Male
Birth day 4
Birth month 9
Birth year 1897
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1985
District ENFIELD
Register number 985
County Middlesex
Volume 12
Page 467
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain




England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) ALICE MABEL
Last name WALLER
Gender Female
Birth day 5
Birth month 6
Birth year 1898
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1977
District ENFIELD
County Middlesex
Volume 12
Page 0473
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

SO that is this couple and just a coincidence of names

Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)

Payne Alice M Waller W. Ham 4a 79
Waller Frederick W Payne W. Ham 4a 79

Just rewinding a minute....

1939 reg

Waller Household (2 People)
54 Elphinstone Road , Hastings C.B., Sussex, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Frederick Waller 21 Mar 1907 House Painter
Gladys B Waller 09 Dec 1909 Unpaid Domestic Duties

This I think is the death of that Gladys, year out by one but day and month is correct

First name(s) GLADYS BEATRICE
Last name WALLER
Gender Female
Birth day 9
Birth month 12
Birth year 1908
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1995
District HASTINGS & ROTHER
District number 4561C
Register number C55A
Entry number 136
Date of registration mm/yy 0795
County Sussex
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

1939 for the Edmonton couple

Frederick Wally on the 1939 Register

1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION
Wally Household (2 People)
33 Henderson Road , Edmonton M.B., Middlesex, England

Frederick Wally 19 Mar 1907 Navvy Worker (Timber)
Emily L Wally 10 Mar 1905 Unpaid Domestic

presume this couple?

Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)

Forrester Emily L Waller Edmonton 3a 1763
Waller Frederick Forrester Edmonton 3a 1763



Deaths Mar 1945 (>99%)
Waller Emily L 40 Edmonton 3a 1127

Yes - this was the orginal marriage, assocuated household and Emily's death

Marriages Sep 1926 (>99%)
Forrester Emily L Waller Edmonton 3a 1763
Waller Frederick Forrester Edmonton 3a 1763

So the marriage to Alice is probably a red herring? Oh well.

I sometimes wonder if the Edmonton reg record keeping wasn't quite what it should have been. Several people from that area have been taken up in a space ship :-0

Thank you for trying :-)

I disagree- I don't have time to explain further, but Alice M Allen (mn Frier,) was b1908 shown below in 1939- she goes on to marry Frederick Waller- she and Frederick are still AT THE SAME address in 1950.

1939:
48 Causeyware Road , Edmonton M.B., Middlesex, England

Alice M Waller (Allen) 12 Dec 1908 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Reginald V Allen 10 Apr 1904 Male Chemical Factory Maintainance Fitter (Heavy Worker Married
--------------------------------

1950 elelctoral register:

48 Causeyware Road , Edmonton
Frederick G Leach
Rita L Leach
Alice M Waller
Frederick Waller
----------------------------------------------------------------

I'll look into this further tomorrow

Thank you :-)

I have to say this is still a mystery.

Frederick was born 1907, his wife dies 1945. A possible marriage to Alice M Allen b1908. Alice husband had died 1943. Even if this wasn't 'our' Frederick that married Alice, we still have a definite birth date for Alice and should be able to find her death - but I'm struggling.

Have you tried following all the children?

I know Frederick's daughters Irene and Freda went to Canada in 1954- could he have also gone? (Although he's not on the same passenger list as them).

I haven't given up- just wanted to share my thoughts

OK- could be a mini breakthrough?!

Found this- (note Alice DOB on the 1939 register was 12 Dec 1908 ):

Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Alice Mabel Annis
[Alice M Annis]
[Alice Mabel Frier]
SSN: 128343036
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Dec 1907
Birth Place: Hernhill, United Kingdom
Death Date: 19 Sep 1994
Father: William J Frier
Mother: Elizabeth Johnson
Citizenship or Alien Status: Legal alien authorized to work.
Claim Date: 10 Feb 1970
Type of Claim: Duplicate SSN - change or replacement.
Additional Information: Evidence other than birth record submitted; U.S. citizen or alien allowed to work.
Notes: 15 Jun 1982: Name listed as ALICE MABEL ANNIS; 27 Jan 1970: Name listed as ALICE M ANNIS

On the 1911 Alice is listed as born Hernhill with father William G. This is the marriage of her parents:

Registration Year 1902
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Faversham
Inferred County Kent
Volume 2a Page 2051
William George Frier <<<<<<<<<
William John Coast
Emily Elizabeth Johnson <<<<<<<
Jane Muzzared
--------------------------------

Social Security Death Index, 1935-2014
Name: Alice M. Annis
SSN: 128-34-3036
Last Residence:
14094 Lockport, Niagara, New York, USA
BORN: 12 Dec 1907
Died: 19 Sep 1994
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1960-1962)

That's certainly possible Austin.

As I hadnt added the children to my Ancestry tree on the basis they could be living, I'd only been searching manually for them on FMP. So thanks for that. :-D