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There you go - Chris has posted another Free site :-D

As your extended family seem to have roots in the Kingston area, its worth playing around to see if their burial was also there.

https://www.kingston.gov.uk/directory/20/burial_records

(just adding above link, you can see scanned images of Burial Registers)

Chris :)

My board name is a play on my initials, DET, which are borrrinng! There are far better helping members on the site. Even the most experienced of us have made wrong turns and need the help of others to sort it out.

It’s a case of having subscriptions to other sites rather than which country we live in.

Pulling together the sources for record posted here -

Ancestry.co.uk – if you upgraded to world wide you’d be able to access the UK records via your au account. You could open a UK records only account under a different email address.
Findmypast – subscription
1939 Register – pay to view by credits but unlimited access included in the FMP annual sub.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ (free)
https://billiongraves.com/ (free) although in this case, the entry was listed on FMP. There are also links from the free site https://familysearch.org/
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills Free. You have to pay to receive a copy of the Will or letters of Administration. Unless it’s a relatively close relative, the entry normally gives sufficient details to identify the correct person.

No wonder you are registered as +++ DetEcTive+++ all that informatoin you have passed on to me is just so helpful and very much appreciated. You and your fellow info gatherers make it a little easier coming up with this data you must be able to access so much more than I can here in Australia
Kind regards Eddie

1911 census

Frederick Carpenter
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Surbiton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Surbiton
Search Photos: Search for 'Surbiton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 8 King Charles Crescent, Surbiton Hill, Surbiton
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School
Registration district: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40
Sub-registration district: Surbiton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 184
Piece: 3543

William Carpenter 37
Rose Carpenter 37
Frederick Carpenter 9 <<<
May Carpenter 7 - << Elizabeth May?
Arthur Carpenter 5 <<<
George Carpenter 3
Joseph Carpenter 6 M

Coming back to Frederick W Carpenter - his birth

FREDERICK WORTHY
Last name CARPENTER
Birth year 1901
Birth quarter 2
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 407

Death
FREDERICK WORTHY
Last name CARPENTER
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 4
Birth year 1901
Death quarter 3
Death year 1995
District KINGSTON UPON THAMES
District number 2401B
Register number B62
Entry number 256
Date of registration mm/yy 0795
County Surrey

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
Frederick Worthy
Last name Carpenter
Birth year 1901
Birth date 14 Apr 1901
Event year 1913
School name St Paul's Church of England School, Hook
Town Hook
County Surrey
Country England
Parent name(s) William
Book type Admissions
Archive reference 3668/BOX4/2
Folio / page no. 15
Archive Surrey History Centre

of 6 Vale Road South. Father William. Previous school attended - Christchurch, Surbiton

Siblings
Elizabeth May b 21 May 1903
Arthur Alfred b 30 Nov 1905.

Likely death of their 3rd child

JUNE EDITH
Last name HINDMARSH
Gender Female
Birth day 27
Birth month 6
Birth year 1928
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1998
District KINGSTON UPON THAMES
District number 2401A
Register number A65
Entry number 122
Date of registration mm/yy 1098
County Surrey

(married Mr Hindmarsh in 1948)

Her Probate entry
Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry
HINDMARSH JUNE EDITH 26 November 1998 12624 08 October 1998 Grant and will Oxford

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Might be Mr Hindmarsh's death?

Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry
HINDMARSH RAYMOND CHARLES 09 July 2008 2796564 23 August 2007 Grant and will Winchester

(born 1926)

Freebmd shows 4 Carpenter/Dwight births from 1924 to 1939.

The oldest didn't survive
JOHN F W
Last name CARPENTER
Birth year 1925
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name DWIGHT
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 748

JOHN F W
Last name CARPENTER
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1925
Age 4
Death quarter 4
Death year 1929
District KINGSTON
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 557

1939 register for the above couple?

Carpenter Household (2 People) 30 Charter Road , Maldon and Coombe M.B., Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Edith M Carpenter 23 Aug 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 107 2
Frederick W Carpenter 14 Apr 1901 Male Motor Driver Married 107 1

Plus 3 closed records

EDIT - on 2nd thoughts, an Aug birth would be registered in the Sep or Dec quarter, not the Mar one. 2nd Edit - birth was reg in Sep; the marriage was Mar quarter. Doh!

Posting related death anyway.
EDITH MAY
Last name CARPENTER
Gender Female
Birth day 23
Birth month 8
Birth year 1902
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1985
District KINGSTON UPON THAMES
Register number 185
County Surrey
Volume 13
Page 2449

A person whose death was reg in Jan could have died in Dec the previous year
Headstone
https://billiongraves.com/grave/Edith-May-Carpenter/246654#

Hang on a minute - the marriage is under the name of Ethel, not Edith.

If you are only going by on-line records, might this be more likely?

EDITH M
Last name DWIGHT
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1924
Spouse's last name CARPENTER
District KINGSTON
District number -
County Surrey
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 1104

MarriageFinder™ EDITH M DWIGHT married
FREDERICK W CARPENTER

Argllgran, Thank you for you quick response do you have any info on her spouse as this is what I cannot find or her death records
Cheers Eddie

There are births for more than one Albert Edward Duffin, so if you don't know anything more about him than that he married Edith, you'll have to buy a copy of the marriage cert, if you don't already have it, to find out his age, parents' names, etc.

Marriages Mar 1937 (>99%)

Duffin Albert E Dwight Southwark 1d 143
Dwight Ethel M Duffin Southwark 1d 143

If you buy a sub to Ancestry.com.au, you'll have access to pretty much most of the info that we in the UK have.
Also there's the free site freebmd.org.uk - and all the other sites we use will be just as usable in Australia, as far as I know.

However, I assume you have Edith's birth, marriage, and death certs, as you know the dates.

So that helpers know what part of the UK we're talking about, here's her birth for reference:

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
Dwight Edith May Kingston 2a 415


Edith May Dwight
in the Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
Name: Edith May Dwight
Baptism Date: 7 Oct 1903
Archive Provided Parish: Norbiton, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: Norbiton, St Peter
Father: John Dwight
Mother: Jane Dwight
Reference Number: 3046/1/6



Edith Dwight
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Edith Dwight
Age in 1911: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Norbiton, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Kingston on Thames
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: 6 Acre Road, Kingston On Thames, Surrey
Registration district: Kingston
Registration District Number: 40
Sub-registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 352
Piece: 3512
Household Members:
Name Age
John Dwight 52
Jane Dwight 43
Bertha Dwight 10
Edith Dwight 8

Edith May was my 4cousin x 2 removed she married Albert Edward Duffin March 1937 could anyone give me any information on this couple other than what I already have being that I now reside in Australia Ihave not got acces to much of the records that you have in the U.K.
Kind Regards Eddie Dwight