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yes it is possible ArgyllGran that Ann Jane's mother maybe have died soon after arriving in England. If she is great niece that would be very interesting to look into.

As Ann Jane was still living with the Mogridges in 1871, I assume her mother died in (or soon after) childbirth.


Ann J A Moore
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Ann J A Moore
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relation: Grand or Great Niece (Great Niece)
Gender: Female
Where born: Born at Sea
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Household schedule number: 140
Piece: 3784
Folio: 78
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Mogridge 68
Elizabeth Mogridge 68
Richard Mogridge 32
Richard Mogridge 4
Ann J A Moore 12
James Mogridge 2

Will post my replies on here ArgyllGran and yes I also see a that a niece of Richard Mogridge had a daughter so she would be known as a second or grand-niece.

On Ann Jane Argo Moore marriage certificate her father had already died and I have a record from the ship ' Argo ' which read Mrs Moore a soldier's widow had baby girl on the 28th March 1858. So Mrs Moore was with child and her father Thomas Moore must have died or Killed in India some time between 1857/58.

safc, thank you very much for the information which I have found very useful and I would be very grateful if you can send me a copy of the marriage of Thomas Moore and Ann/Antonia.

If this is Ann/Antonia's father, he died just before she was born:

Leonard Perrira
in the India, Select Deaths and Burials, 1719-1948
Name: Leonard Perrira
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Birth Date: 1808
Burial Date: 28 Aug 1839
Burial Place: Madras, India
Father: Daniel Perrira
Mother: Joanna Perrira

Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905 Transcription
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First name(s) ANN JANE ARGO
Last name MOORE
Birth year 1858
Marriage year 1878
Marriage date 25 Mar 1878
Parish St. Peter
Spouse's first name GEORGE HENRY
Spouse's last name WATSON
Bride's age 20
Groom's age 21
Place ST. PETER
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set Cheshire Marriage licence bonds and allegations 1606-1905
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

she has no parents living

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription

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First name(s) Thomas
Last name Moore
Marriage year 1855
Marriage date 30 May 1855
Spouse's first name Antonia
Spouse's last name Perriea
Place Secunderabad,St John
Presidency Madras
Groom's age 20
Bride's age 15
Groom's father's first name William
Groom's father's last name Moore
Bride's father's first name Leonard
Bride's father's last name Perriea
Catalogue description Madras ecclesiastical records, omissions and corrections, 1777-1884, :
Archive reference N-2-9
Folio number 11
Entry number -
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
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thomas is a corporal age is either 20 or 29? the writing on the cert is very faint

Looks good, safc!

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Thomas Moore
mentioned in the record of Thomas Moore and Ann ...
Name Thomas Moore
Birth Date 1826
Age 29
Spouse's Name Ann ...
Spouse's Birth Date 1840
Spouse's Age 15
Event Date 30 May 1855
Event Place Secunderabad, Madras, India
Father's Name William Moore
Spouse's Father's Name Leanard ...

Goodness knows what relationship a "second niece" is - sounds fairly distant.

A niece's daughter, perhaps??
Normally referred to as a grand-niece.

PM from Derek:

Ann Jane Moore is on the 1861 census living with relations of mine . Richard Mogridge and Elizabeth Richardson and she was born on board ship called the Argo coming back from India on the 28th March 1858.
Regards,
Derek.

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I did wonder about that census record.

Here it is, for helpers' reference.

Ann Jane Argo Moore
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Ann Jane Argo Moore
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: 1858
Relation: Second Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Passage From India to England Board the Ship Argo
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Mount Pleasant
ED, institution, or vessel: 22g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 155
Piece: 2684
Folio: 102
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Mogridge 58
Elizabeth Mogridge 58
Ann Jane Argo Moore 3
Sarah Maywell 69
Edward Richardson 48
Elizabeth Richardson 39
Elizabeth Moore 5

Ann Jane Moore ( child ) baptised 19th July 1858 in St. Peter's chruch, Liverpool, Lancashire, England. Born 28th March 1858.
Parents Thomas and Ann Moore. Father's occupation soldier.
I am seeking the marriage of Thomas and Ann Moore. Any information would be most helpful.