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ElizabethK
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10 Sep 2016 09:18 |
The following info appears on my Ancestry UK but I cannot access it !
Can someone tell me what there is?
Charles William SHOLL born c 1827 Truro Cornwall {is in the 1871/1881 census' as a Civil Engineer}
1} US Immigration Lists Index-1856 Savannah Georgia
2} Georgia Naturelization Records -10 September 1856
He married in Liverpool in 1868
Thank you :-)
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malyon
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10 Sep 2016 10:06 |
Charles William Sholl England Births and Christenings Name Charles William Sholl Gender Male Christening Date 28 Nov 1827 Christening Place St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name Charles Sholl Mother's Name Sarah
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malyon
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10 Sep 2016 10:10 |
could this be Charles
C W Scholl Wisconsin State Census, 1855 Name C W Scholl Event Place Beaver Dam, Dodge, Wisconsin Number of White Males 4 Number of White Females 3
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Sep 2016 10:11 |
Name: Charles William Sholl Age: 28 Birthdate: abt 1828 Record Date: 10 Sep 1856 Record Place: Savannah Court Location: Savannah, Georgia Title/Description: Savannah Declarations 1825 - 1886 (Box 1) Record Type: Declarations
Declares he Is a native of Great Britain and now residing in Savannah Georgia and declares he is intending to be a citizen of the USA and renounces all allenance to the Queen of Great Britain and Ireland
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malyon
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10 Sep 2016 10:19 |
could be Charles's sister
Charles Sholl
mentioned in the record of Sarah Ann Barwis Sholl Name Charles Sholl Gender Male Wife Sarah Daughter Sarah Ann Barwis Sholl Other information in the record of Sarah Ann Barwis Sholl
from England Births and Christenings Name Sarah Ann Barwis Sholl Gender Female Christening Date 24 May 1833 Christening Place St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name Charles Sholl Mother's Name Sarah
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malyon
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10 Sep 2016 10:21 |
and another child Charles Sholl
mentioned in the record of Robert Horatia Sholl from England Births and Christenings Name Robert Horatia Sholl Gender Male Christening Date 08 May 1829 Christening Place St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name Charles Sholl Mother's Name Sarah Name Charles Sholl Gender Male Wife Sarah Son Robert Horatia Sholl
Robert Horatio Sholl England and Wales Death Registration Index 1837-2007 Name Robert Horatio Sholl Event Type Death Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep Registration Year 1845 Registration District Helston County Cornwall Event Place Helston, Cornwall, England Volume 9 Page 73 Line Number 35
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malyon
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10 Sep 2016 10:23 |
Charles Sholl
mentioned in the record of Ellen Mary Sholl Name Charles Sholl Gender Male Wife Sarah Daughter Ellen Mary Sholl Other information in the record of Ellen Mary Sholl
from England Births and Christenings Name Ellen Mary Sholl Gender Female Christening Date 21 Oct 1831 Christening Place St. Mary, Truro, Cornwall, England Father's Name Charles Sholl Mother's Name Sarah
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 11:38 |
No image to view for this:
Charles William Sholl in the U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Name: Charles William Sholl Birth Year: abt 1828 Arrival Year: 1856 Arrival Place: Savannah, Georgia Age: 28 Source Publication Code: 3021 Primary Immigrant: Sholl, Charles William Annotation: Date and port of arrival or date and place oath of citizenship was sworn. Extracted from Court Minute Books 1-15, 1789-1852, District of Georgia, Savannah. Includes date of birth. Source Bibliography: HEMPERLEY, MARION R. "Federal Naturalization Oaths, Savannah, Georgia, 1790-1860." In The Georgia Historical Quarterly, vol. 51:4 (Dec. 1967), pp. 454-487. Page: 482
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 11:46 |
Could this be the same man?? He's one of a large number of boarders at Munroe (Monroe ?) House, and is married, and an architect:
Chas Scholl in the 1860 United States Federal Census Name: Chas Scholl Age: 30 Birth Year: abt 1830 Gender: Male Birth Place: England Home in 1860: St Louis Ward 6, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri Post Office: St Louis Family Number: 47
EDIT: No your Charles married in 1868, so not the same person unless he'd been married before.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 12:06 |
Charles Sholl in the Savannah, Georgia, Court Records, 1790-1934
Name: Charles Sholl Court Date: 10 Nov 1857 Civil Place: Savannah, Chatham, Georgia
In court for not paying a bill of 89 dollars, 24 cents - mainly for alcohol, but also a lot of Stilton cheese.
There's a whole page of writing , which I'm not going to type out here. If you think this is your man, and if you like to PM me your email address, I'll send it as an attachment.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 13:19 |
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Charles M Sholl in the Georgia, Wills and Probate Records, 1742-1992 Name: Charles M Sholl Probate Date: 9 Mar 1859 Probate Place: Chatham, Georgia, USA Inferred Death Year: Abt 1859 Inferred Death Place: Georgia, USA Item Description: Guardian Bonds, 1845-1874
This is NOT the death of Charles M Sholl, as it appears. It's a bond for 500 dollars, payable by Annie M Thomas, formerly Annie M Sholl, and Jane D Thomas, if Annie Thomas doesn't properly perform her duties as Guardian of her minor child Charles M Sholl. The presumably deceased father's name isn't given.
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ElizabethK
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10 Sep 2016 16:12 |
Thank you all for your input - just interested in finding out what he did in the USA , he had no children here so maybe he did marry in the US ? - he abandened his wife and is living with someone else in 1881 !! - have e-mailed ArgyllGran
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 20:17 |
Document emailed, Elizabeth - hope it's openable.
I had tried sending it via a PM on GR, but it wouldn't load.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 20:19 |
If the unnamed father of Charles M Sholl was deceased, then he couldn't have been your Charles.
But it may just have been that he had scarpered, as you say, and Annie was left literally holding the baby. As she had reverted to her maiden name, it seems likely that he had left her.
I've also sent you that document.
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ArgyllGran
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10 Sep 2016 20:57 |
Annie Thomas in the Georgia, Marriage Records From Select Counties, 1828-1978 Name: Annie Thomas Gender: Female Marriage Date: 13 Dec 1853 Marriage Place: Chatham, Georgia, USA Spouse: Mr Charles Sholl Spouse Gender: Male
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ElizabethK
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11 Sep 2016 11:17 |
Thanks ArgyllGran
Document copies downloaded OK :-)
The Immigration Indexes give Charles Sholl arriving in the US as 1856 so would seem to be another Charles Sholl marrying Annie Thomas in 1853 ?!
Thank you again for your help
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ArgyllGran
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11 Sep 2016 13:43 |
The "immigration" record, I think is actually an oath of citizenship, so he must have arrived in the US before that. It's another transcription of the naturalisation record posted earlier.
It's a record of "Date and port of arrival OR date and place oath of citizenship was sworn. "
If that's your Charles marrying Annie, then the 1860 US census which I posted yesterday at 11:46 might be right after all.
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ArgyllGran
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11 Sep 2016 13:48 |
Ah, interesting.
Re the marriage, there's also this record - same people?? different people?:
Annie M. Thomas in the New York City, Marriages, 1600s-1800s Name: Annie M. Thomas Spouse Name: Charles Seoll Marriage Date: 13 Jan 1854 Marriage Place: New York City, New York, New York Marriage ID: 2220304826 Other Comments: On microfilm at Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.
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mgnv
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11 Sep 2016 22:11 |
Re AG's 1860 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MHZJ-MG3 [with image link] Event Place 6th Ward St Louis, St Louis, Missouri, United States [M doesn't indicate he's married, but that he's male]
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Chris Ho :)
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12 Sep 2016 08:34 |
Baptism Day Month 28-Nov Year 1827 Parish Or Reg District Truro, St. Mary Forename Charles William Surname SHOLL Sex son Father Forename Charles Mother Forename Sarah Residence St. Mary's Father Rank Profession Officer in the Customs
(above info. from below link)
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
Chris :)
03 December 1870 - Lake's Falmouth Packet and Cornwall Advertiser
Death At Penzance, on the 29th November, Charles Sholl. Esq., late comptroller of the Customs, Exeter, (formerly of Truro), aged 75 years.
11 September 1857 - Royal Cornwall Gazette - Truro, Cornwall, England
Death At Mount Radford, Exeter, ou the 8th inst., much beloved, Sarah Anne, youngest daughter of Charles Sholl, Esq., Comptroller of the Customs at that port, and formerly of the Customs,Truro, aged 24 years.
Baptism Day Month 24-May Year 1833 Parish Or Reg District Truro, St. Mary Forename Sarah Ann Barwis Surname SHOLL Sex Father Forename Charles Mother Forename Sarah Residence St. Clement's Father Rank Profession Officer of Customs
Edits
28 August 1930 - Cornishman - Penzance, Cornwall, England
Cornish Inventions (included in long list of names, below)
C. W. Sholl: Improvements in compressed air hammers, 1871.
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/23751/page/3020
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/23954/page/1313
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/24506/page/5385
(on above, Invention)
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