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Thank you so much Chris

That confirms that her father was indeed Mark Playford and her mother was Sarah Ann Gibbs

All the best

Jane

There is below, if anything on there relating.

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris :)

Baptism
County Norfolk
Place Heckingham
Church name House of Industry (Union Workhouse)
Register type Other Register
Register entry number 840
Baptism date 02 Aug 1891
Person forename Ellen Rebecca
Person abode Raveningham
Father forename Mark
Father surname PLAYFORD
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Sarah Ann


Burial
County Norfolk
Place Heckingham
Church name House of Industry (Union Workhouse)
Register type Other Register
Register entry number 176
Burial date 06 Dec 1926
Person age 69
Burial person forename Sarah A
Burial person surname PLAYFORD
Burial person abode The Lodge Heckingham


http://gravestonephotos.com/public/gravedetails.php?grave=97280&scrwidth=1501

Thanks Dea

I will pass that information onto my friend. I think she will find that quite funny.

all the best

Jane

A 'snippet' from:
Norwich Mercury 28 October 1882

LODDON.

William Smith, Landlord of the White Hart,
Thurlton, was summoned for keeping his house
open, after prohibited hours, on the night of the
14th October. Mr Linsay defended. The Bench,
after hearing the evidence of p.c. Grimes, decided
to convict, and defendant was fined £5, and costs
17s. The license not to be endorsed.
George Jermy, of Thurlton, smacksman, Mark
Playford, of Norton, and Harry Bradbeer, of
Thurlton, labourers, were summoned for being on
the above-named premises on the night in question
after prohibited hours , and were each fined 10s.,
and costs 12s. each. Jermy did not appear.

Dea x

Thanks for that information Malyon. I will pass it on to her later today.

All the best

Jane

they must have mark playford's age wrong when he died 1909 aged 48 making him born in 1861 he was born 1856


Mark Playford

England and Wales Birth Registration Index

Name Mark Playford
Event Type Birth Registration
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1856
Registration District Loddon
County Norfolk
Event Place Loddon, Norfolk, England
Volume 4B
Page 203
Line Number 15

census 1861



Mark Playford

England and Wales Census, 1861

Name Mark Playford
County Norfolk
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place ..., Norfolk, England
Registration District Loddon
Residence Note Low Road
Gender Male
Age 5
Occupation Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1856
Birthplace Norton, Norfolk
Page Number 1
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 1228 / 102
Affiliate Record Type Household



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Mark Playford Head M 36 Heckingham, Norfolk
Harriet Playford Wife F 30 Norton, Norfolk
William Playford Son M 9 Norton, Norfolk
Sarah Playford Daughter F 7 Norton, Norfolk
Mark Playford Son M 5 Norton, Norfolk

Thanks malyon

All the best

Jane

looks like they had 4 children 1912-1929 born suffolk

Thank you so much for all your help. I have just spoken to my friend and she is so pleased that you have found all this information for her and she wishes to thank you all for all your help.

The information does appear to be correct. She is now going to send for the birth certificate.

Thank you all so much for all your help

Jane

Death:
Name: Ellen Rebecca Knights
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1891 *** - 1 year out from 1939 census **
Date of Registration: Sep 1976
Age at Death: 85
Registration district: Blyth
Inferred County: Suffolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1819
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So, this would be her birth ?
Births Sep 1891 (>99%)
Playford Ellen Rebecca Loddon 4b 233

Is this the one you are going to order??

Dea x

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)

PLAYFORD Mark 48 Loddon 4b 121

this looks like mark and sarah's marriage


Marriages Mar 1885 (>99%)

BECKHAM Thomas Edward Loddon 4b 346 Scan available - click to view
Gibbs Sarah Ann Loddon 4b 346 Scan available - click to view
Nunn Emma Loddon 4b 346 Scan available - click to view
Playford Mark Loddon 4b 346

Thank you so much Dea and Mary. I am now sure it is the same person so I will phone her later to give her the news.

Thanks again everyone for all your help

Jane

Thank you Pauline and malyon. I believe it is the same person so I will have another go at persuading her that she should get the birth cert. At least this way she will know one way or another.

All the best

Jane

This is them in 1939 if it helps?
Knights Household (3 People) 27 King Street , Felixstowe U.D., Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Basil W Knights 29 Aug 1887 Sign Writer & Decorator
Ellen (Rebecca) Knights 08 Jul 1892 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Arthur D Knights 21 Jan 1929 At School

NB - I don't know where the name Rebecca has come from - It has been written onto the original page at a later date ?

Births Mar 1929 (>99%)
Knights Arthur D Playford Woodbridge 4a 1657

Dea x

Mark Playford 1855 with son George 15 ? at home with parents Mark 1824 and Harriett nee Reeve 1826-1910.

Mark died between 19011911 as Sarah Ann Playford widow in 1911.

Mark Playford married Sarah Ann Gibbs J/F/M 1885

Maryb.

fathers name mark playford

Walter Playford

England and Wales Census, 1891

Name Walter Playford
Event Type Census
Event Date 1891
County Norfolk
Parish Raveningham
Ecclesiastical Parish RAVENINGHAM
Registration District Loddon
Residence Note Loddon Road
Gender Male
Age 3
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1888
Birthplace Norfolk, England
Page Number 5
Registration Number RG12
Piece/Folio 1540/ 102



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Mark Playford Head M 37 Norfolk, England
Sarah Playford Wife F 37 Norfolk, England
Edward M Playford Son M 7 Norfolk, England
George Playford Son M 5 Norfolk, England
Walter Playford Son M 3 Norfolk, England
John Playford Son M 1 Norfolk, England

Most Ellen's where called Nellie, especially if the mother was also called that.
My MIL was an Ellen, always called Nell, as was an aunt and granmother

Ellen Playford

England and Wales Census, 1901

Name Ellen Playford
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Thurlton, Norfolk, England
County Norfolk
Civil Parish Thurlton
Ecclesiastical Parish Thurlton
Sub-District Aldeby
Registration District Loddon
Residence Note Beccles Road
Gender Female
Age 9
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated) 1892
Birthplace Heckingham, Norfolk
Schedule Type 33
Page Number 5



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

Sarah Playford Head F 44 Thurlton, Norfolk
Walter Playford Son M 13 Heckingham, Norfolk
John Playford Son M 12 Heckingham, Norfolk
Ellen Playford Daughter F 9 Heckingham, Norfolk

Thank you Mary for helping me.

Is there any way I can find Ellen's baptism records to confirm who her parents are?

I am helping my friend with this research and have suggested that she buys her birth cert. She is a bit reluctant as she is not sure whether ellen and Nellie are the same person.

Thanks again

Jane