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Late husband's ancestor John Morris.

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Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2016 14:53

sorry he died

John Morris
England Deaths and Burials
Name John Morris
Gender Male
Burial Date 20 Jan 1721
Burial Place Southill, Bedford, England
Father's Name Joseph Morris
Mother's Name Sarah
Citing this Record

"England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J829-CPG : 24 December 2014), John Morris, 20 Jan 1721; citing , reference item 4; FHL microfilm 1,066,953.

Patricia

Patricia Report 19 Sep 2016 14:36

Many thanks Maddie - Will keep a note of it - but think we are getting into difficuties that far back ! Thanks again
Pat

Maddie

Maddie Report 19 Sep 2016 13:34

sorry can't find a baptism for him
maddie

have added this in case it becomes relevent

Name John Morris
Gender Male
Christening Date 10 Oct 1721
Christening Place SOUTHILL,BEDFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name Joseph Morris
Mother's Name Sarah
Citing this Record

"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V525-GR4 : 30 December 2014), John Morris, 10 Oct 1721; citing SOUTHILL,BEDFORD,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 599,349.

Patricia

Patricia Report 19 Sep 2016 12:00

Hi Friends -
is there any way I can get further back on John Morris born 1802 Bedfordshire. I;d never have got that far without the help of you all. Sadly John Morris is probably a common name. Not sure why he got married in Limehouse to Anne Warrington - but the whole family and company thereafter lived and worked in the London area.
Thanks for any further help
P\at

Patricia

Patricia Report 16 Sep 2016 14:54

Yet again - many thanks- Greyghost - I am sure you have found the link to the Warrington line - I always wondered where the Sharman came from.-.I don;t know how you all managed to get quite so far back - I have been looking at censuses for ages.

Slightly confused by your entry malyon - my John Morris was a surveyor I thought - not a taylor ?Wonder if the one you have found was my John Morris's Father or Grandfather.. My John Morris born 1802 approx.
So now we are looking for John Morris born in Bedforsdshire around 1802 -- direct father and mother ?
Thanks again- I was nearly giving up !
Pat

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Sep 2016 12:51

County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Register entry number 295
Marriage date 30 Apr 1792
Groom forename Edward
Groom surname WARRINGTON
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom abode Limehouse, Middlesex
Bride forename Susanna
Bride surname SHARMAR
Bride condition Spinster
Witness Edwd. SHARMAN
Witness Mary HARRINGTON
Register note Married by Licence by Samuel Dewe, Curate

Chris :)

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(from above link, also below if relating, and other Warrington names, Wisbech)


Baptism
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 12 Dec 1767
Person forename Edward Warrington
Person sex M
Father forename Edward
Father surname WARRINGTON
Mother forename Ann


Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 05 Aug 1771
Burial person forename Edward
Burial person surname WARRINGTON
Register note Innkeeper


Burial
County Cambridgeshire
Place Wisbech
Church name St Peter
Register type Unspecified
Burial date 31 Mar 1800
Burial person forename Anne
Burial person surname WARRINGTON
Relationship Widow of

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2016 12:23


Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Woburn, Bedfordshire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish Ely
Registration District Woburn
Residence Note Cobbs Row
Gender Male
Age 59
Occupation Taylor
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Birth Year (Estimated) 1802
Birthplace Lidlington, Bedfordshire
Page Number 16
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 1003 / 163
Affiliate Record Type Household



Household

Role

Gender

Age

Birthplace

John Morris Head M 59 Lidlington, Bedfordshire
Henry Staniford Visitor M 15 Woburn, Bedfordshire

malyon

malyon Report 16 Sep 2016 12:21

John Morris

England and Wales Census, 1841

Name John Morris
Event Type Census
Event Date 1841
Event Place Woburn, Bedfordshire, England
Residence Note Bedford Street
Gender Male
Age 35-39
Age (Original) 35
Birth Year (Estimated) 1802-1806
Birthplace Bedfordshire
Registration District Woburn
Book Number 39 PT 2
Parish Woburn
County Bedfordshire
Page Number 10
Registration Number HO107
Piece/Folio 5/8
Affiliate Record Type Household

Patricia

Patricia Report 16 Sep 2016 12:05

I am sure you are all right abou tthe marriage being in Limehouse - I simply couldn;t find it. Any ideas as to how I could find out any more about John Morris b 1802 or the Warrington family please. Looks like John was born Bedfordshire ? That's odd - old family tale that they were direct ancestors of Dukes of Bedfordshire- Russells and terrific family likeness in photos of my husbands Father Percy and Bertrand Russell - could be twins ! Probalby rubbish !
Thanks again
Pat

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Sep 2016 12:01

?????
Looking at the birthplace of Anne Warrington, could this be a possibility for her parents marriage.

Edward is shown as born Limehouse too. It might explain the middle name of "Warrington" and "Sharman" in John and Anne's children


Edward Warrington
mentioned in the record of Edward Warrington and Susanna Sharman
Name Edward Warrington
Birthplace Limehouse Middlesex
Spouse's Name Susanna Sharman
Event Date 30 Apr 1792
Event Place St. Peter, Wisbeach, Cambridge, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2016 12:00

Justina left £13334 6s 10d.


Justina Margaret Morris

in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Record Image View

Name: Justina Margaret Morris
Death Date: 2 Dec 1926
Death Place: Devon, England
Probate Date: 13 Jan 1927
Registry: London, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2016 11:56

A tree on Ancetry list 7 children of Edward & Justina.

Probate of Edward Sharman Morris has effects £9112 14s 6d.

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Sep 2016 11:49

??????

London and Surrey, England, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1597-1921
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Name John Morris
Age 21
Birth Year abt 1802
Event Date 10 Apr 1823
Parish All Saints, Poplar
County Middlesex
Spouse's Name Ann Warrington
Spouse's Age 21
Spouse's Parish Limehouse, St Anne
Spouse's County Middlesex
Event Type Allegation
Reference Number Ms 10091/201
Household Members
Name Age
John Morris
Ann Warrington

1861 England Census
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Name John Morris
Age 60
Estimated Birth Year 1801
Relation Head
Spouse's Name Anne Morris
Gender Male
Where born South Hill, Bedfordshire, England
Civil parish Poplar All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish All Saints
County/Island Middlesex
Country England
Registration district Poplar
Sub-registration district Poplar
ED, institution, or vessel 13
Household schedule number 60
Piece 307
Folio 4
Page number 10
Household Members
Name Age
John Morris
Anne Morris
William Morris
George R Morris
Reeves Morris
Elizabeth Phipps
Greshor Stevens
Sarah Philips

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
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Name John Morris
Death Date 16 Jul 1862
Death Place Middlesex, England
Probate Date 6 Aug 1862
1 harlow villas, east india road poplar, architect and surveyor , died 16/07/1862 proved by the oath of edward sharman morris, stationer and william morris civil engineer

effects under £4000

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2016 11:47

John Morris

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: John Morris
Spouse: Anne Warrington
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Apr 1823
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Married by license.

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Sep 2016 11:41

If this is the marriage you refer to, then it's a little closer to London, than Ontario!

As one of the sons has the middle name of Warrington on the 1851 census, then I expect it to be the correct one

John Morris
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: John Morris
Spouse: Anne Warrington
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 30 Apr 1823
Parish: St Anne, Limehouse
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Original says John Morris of the parish of All Saints, Poplar. Middx Bachelor and Anne Warrington of this Parish (i.e. St Annes', Limehouse) Spinster.

Married by Licence. Both signed.
Witnesses (??) Morris,, Edward Warrington and Mary (H)ain

Patricia

Patricia Report 16 Sep 2016 11:40

Spellings I have are correct for Edward Sharman Morris and Justina Margaret Garden - we have oil portraitsof them ! but they are often misspelt in census returns.

Maybe Dad -John was being a surveyor out in CANADAat the time of his marriage in 1823.
Thanks again
Pat

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Sep 2016 11:37

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Trinity Terrace, Poplar, Middlesex, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Morris Head Married Male 50 1801 Architeds & Surveyor Southill, Bedfordshire, England
Anne Morris Wife Married Female 51 1800 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Anne Morris Daughter Unmarried Female 26 1825 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
John Warrington Morris Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Architect & Surveyor Poplar, Middlesex,
Emily Morris Daughter Unmarried Female 20 1831 - Poplar, Middlesex, England
Edward Thorman Morris Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Auctioneer Poplar, Middlesex<<<<<<<
William Morris Son Unmarried Male 14 1837 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England
George Reeves Morris Son Unmarried Male 12 1839 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England
Reeves Morris Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 Scholar Poplar, Middlesex, England

<<<<<Original reads Sharman

Patricia

Patricia Report 16 Sep 2016 11:36

You are all so kind. I have since discovered a marriage for Joghn and Anne in London ONTARIO. Goodness knows how or why they got there.
Edward Sharman Morris married in 1860 - sorry.
So now looking for parents of John Morris and Anne Warrington.
Thanks again all.
Pat

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Sep 2016 11:33

???

Marriages Mar 1860 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Donoghue Bridget Poplar 1c 907
Driscoll Dennis Poplar 1c 907
***Garden Justina Margaret Poplar 1c 907
***Morris Edward Spencer Poplar 1c 907

greyghost

greyghost Report 16 Sep 2016 11:33

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) JESTINA MARGARET
Last name GARDEN
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1860
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ JESTINA MARGARET GARDEN married one of these people
EDWARD SPARMAN MORRIS, DENNIS DRISCOLL
District POPLAR
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1C
Page 907