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Hi All, having problems with this family, I have a joseph james 1785-1838 m 1805 ? the son of Edward James & sarah ?
a son also joseph 1806-1874 m 1819 ann ? info from a family member on a scrap of paper.
Then the family comes up in Kidderminster in late 1870s

Joseph James

England Births and Christenings

Name Joseph James
Gender Male
Christening Date 23 Jan 1785
Christening Place Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
Father's Name Edward James
Mother's Name Sarah

Possible 1851?

Name: Joseph James
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Norton
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County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2k
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Household schedule number: 111
Piece: 2048
Folio: 245
Page Number: 28

Looks to be in the workhouse.

also

Name: Joseph James
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bromsgrove
Ecclesiastical parish: Catshill
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County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Farm Labourer

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried

Registration district: Bromsgrove
Sub-registration district: Bromsgrove
ED, institution, or vessel: 2o
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Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 2047
Folio: 389
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Hughes 21
Alice Hughes 14
Martha Hughes 11
Emely Hughes 1
Edwin Hughes 4
Joseph James 45

That James in the 1851 census was born in Kings Norton, per the image. Bromsgrove is a mistranscription.

Joseph James

mentioned in the record of Joseph James and Ann Hodges

Name Joseph James
Gender Male
Son Joseph James

Other information in the record of Joseph James and Ann Hodges

from England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name Joseph James
Spouse's Name Ann Hodges
Event Date 18 Jan 1852
Event Place Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
Father's Name Joseph James
Spouse's Father's Name Joseph Hodges

Joseph James

England Births and Christenings

Name Joseph James
Gender Male
Christening Date 07 Nov 1819
Christening Place Ashcott, Somerset, England
Father's Name Joseph James
Mother's Name Ann

How do you know that Joseph 1806 was a son of the older Joseph, Ian?

As Joseph senior died 1838, they don't appear on censuses together - in fact I can't see Joseph junior conclusively on any census - and I can't see a birth record for Joseph junior in Bromsgrove

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Edward James
mentioned in the record of Edward James and Sarah Carter
Name Edward James
Spouse's Name Sarah Carter
Event Date 01 Apr 1782
Event Place Stanton, England

Not much help but could be a sibling of Joseph?

Name: Thomas James
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 19 Mar 1790
Baptism Place: Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
Father: Edward James
Mother: Sarah
FHL Film Number: 321126

some info from latter day saints site

I haven't looked into anything yet but you have in your opening post:

"a son also joseph 1806-1874 m 1819 ann ?"

So Joseph born 1806 married Ann in 1819? He was 13?? Or am I misreading?

How have you worked back to these people Ian?

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

(in case anything on above)

Chris :)

hi chris Ho found some on the website, thanks