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Using http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/
I've appended the quarter of registration

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1842q1 HULL Thomas MYERSCOUGH Preston Preston PRES/18/41
1843q3 HULL Barnaby MYERSCOUGH Preston Preston PRES/24/34
1844q4 HULL Isabella MYERSCOUGH Preston Preston PRES/29/69
1846q3 HULL Isabella MYERSCOUGH Preston Preston PRES/38/12

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1845q3
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
HULL Isabella 0 Preston Preston PRES/24/95

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1856q1
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
HULL James 52 Preston Preston PRES/68/66

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1857q3
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
HULL Isabella 54 Preston Preston PRES/74/95

Deaths Sep 1857 (>99%)
Hull Isabella Preston 8e 209
[image says p=259 - correct'n subm'd to FreeBMD]



1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGR5-NMF
Event Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Registration District Preston
Residence Note Fyld Road
Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 2266 / 405 Page Number 43

James Hull Head M 45 Poulton, Lancashire Inn Keeper
Isabella Hull Wife F 47 Poulton, Lancashire
Eliza Hull Daughter F 25 Poulton, Lancashire
William Hull Son M 17 Poulton, Lancashire
Elizabeth Hull Daughter F 14 Preston, Lancashire
James Hull Son M 12 Preston, Lancashire
Thomas Hull Son M 9 Preston, Lancashire
Barnaby Hull Son M 7 Preston, Lancashire
Isabella Hull Daughter F 4 Preston, Lancashire
Ellen Hull Niece F 10 Poulton, Lancashire
Margaret Winder Servant F 20 Preston, Lancashire Bar Maid




1861 Isa* https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TK-72G
Event Place Kirkham, Lancashire, England
Registration District Fylde
Residence Note Poulton Street
Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 3145 / 53 Page Number 16
Affiliate Record Type Household

Thomas Appleton Head M 26 Wigan, Lancashire Gorcer Sea Dealer
Ann Appleton Wife F 23 Lytham, Lancashire
Joseph Edrd Appleton Son M 1 Kirkham, Lancashire
John Appleton Son M 0 Kirkham, Lancashire
Isabella Hull Servant F 15 ..., Lancashire Servant






Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1837q3 FLETCHER James SANDON Walton-le-Dale Preston WLD/1/3
1840q1 FLETCHER Elizabeth SANDHAM Preston Preston PRES/10/12
1845q3 FLETCHER Mary Ann SANDHAM Walton-le-Dale Preston WLD/5/85
1847q3 FLETCHER Joseph SANDHAM Walton-le-Dale Preston WLD/7/1
1852q4 FLETCHER John SANDHAM Preston Preston PRES/69/82

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1853q3
Surname Forename(s) Age or Year of Birth Sub-District Registers At Reference
FLETCHER John 41 Preston Preston PRES/56/11



1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7TS-4T9
Event Place Preston, Lancashire, England
Ecclesiastical Parish St Thomas
Registration District Preston
Residence Note Back Sidney Street
Registration Number RG09 Piece/Folio 3135 / 93 Page Number 33
Affiliate Record Type Household

Isabella Fletcher Head F 49 Bentley, Lancashire Widow
Elizabeth Fletcher Daughter F 22 Pinxton, Lancashire Cotton Spinner
... Fletcher Son M 19 Bindle, Lancashire Cotton Spinner
Mary Ann Fletcher Daughter F 17 Bindle, Lancashire Piecer Loom Cotton Weaver
Joseph Fletcher Son M 12 Preston, Lancashire Cotton...
Richard Lane Boarder M 16 Preston, Lancashire Power Loom Cotton Weaver




Marriage: 19 Apr 1828 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
John Hull - (X), Husbandman of this Parish
Ellen Myerscough - Spinster of this Parish
Witness: Rachael Archer; James Dobson
Married by Banns by: R. Bowness Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1834, Page 139, Entry 417
Source: LDS Film 1526408

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Sub-District Registers At Reference
1840q2 HULL Ellen MYERSCOUGH Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool PLF/1/79
1843q2 HULL Mary MYERSCOUGH Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool PLF/3/50

1841 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQLK-HRT
Event Place Poulton, Lancashire, England
Residence Note Green
Parish Poulton
County Lancashire
Registration Number HO107 Piece 497 Book Number 6 Folio 14 Page Number 23
Affiliate Record Type Institution

Ellen Hull F 40-44 Lancashire
James Hull M 9 Lancashire
Thomas Hull M 6 Lancashire
John Hull M 3 Lancashire
Ellen Hull F 1 Lancashire
[Note the institutional record type]


1851 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5Z-PMD
Event Place Poulton Le Fylde, Lancashire, England
Registration District Fylde
Residence Note Poulton Green
Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 2269 / 587 Page Number 29

John Hull Head M 49 Poulton, Lancashire Ag Lab
Ellen Hull Wife F 49 Poulton, Lancashire
John Hull Son M 12 Poulton, Lancashire
Mary Hull Daughter F 7 Poulton, Lancashire

Baptism: 24 Sep 1804 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs.
James Hull - son of Matthew Hull & Sarah
Born: 22 Sep 1804
Abode: Poulton
Occupation: Horse Breaker
Register: Baptisms 1798 - 1812, Page 53, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1517688

Baptism: 21 Oct 1803 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs.
John Hull - son of Matthew Hull & Sally
Born: 20 Oct 1803
Abode: Poulton
Occupation: Horse Breaker
Register: Baptisms 1798 - 1812, Page 45, Entry 11
Source: LDS Film 1517688
[Note Sally is a diminutive of Sarah]

There are more Hull sibs - Ellen,Matthew, Wm, Betsy.
There's also a clashing birth (Marie - so can't be a sib), with a difft location & occup, viz:



Baptism: 3 May 1801 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs.
Ellen Myerscough - daughter of Barnaby Myerscough & Nelly
Born: 12 Apr 1801
Abode: Poulton Green
Register: Baptisms 1798 - 1812, Page 25, Entry 8
Source: LDS Film 1517688

Baptism: 28 Mar 1804 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs.
Isabel Myerscough - daughter of Barnaby Myerscough & Ellen
Born: 20 Mar 1804
Abode: Poulton Green
Occupation: Husbandman
Register: Baptisms 1798 - 1812, Page 47, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 1517688

There is also:
Baptism: 20 Mar 1812 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancs.
John Walker Myerscough - son of Barnaby Myerscough & Nanny
Born: 19 Mar 1812
Abode: Poulton Green
Register: Baptisms 1798 - 1812, Page 129, Entry 5
Source: LDS Film 1517688



Burial: 10 Oct 1834 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
Barnaby Myerscough -
Age: 65
Abode: Poulton
Buried by: W. Thornber Offg. Minister
Register: Burials 1813 - 1837, Page 181, Entry 1445
Source: LDS Film 1517688

Burial: 25 Nov 1854 St Chad, Poulton le Fylde, Lancashire, England
Ellen Myerscough -
Age: 89
Abode: Poulton
Buried by: Ellis F. Arnold, Curate
Register: Burials 1837 - 1854, Page 100, Entry 800
Source: LDS Film 1517688

Isabella and Ellen Myerscough were sisters, daughters of Barnaby Myerscough and Ellen (Walker), who married the two brothers, James and John,

http://www.barbsweb.co.uk/history/hull.htm

(above from google search)

Chris :)

Marriage: 19 Apr 1828 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
John Hull - (X), Husbandman, this Parish
Ellen Myerscough - Spinster, this Parish
Witness: Rachael Archer; James Dobson
Married by Banns by: R. Bowness Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1834, Page 139, Entry 417
Source: LDS Film 1526408


Marriage: 14 Jun 1795 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
Barnaby Myerscough - Husbandman, this Parish
Ellen Walker - Widow, this Parish
Witness: John Ratcliff; Elizabeth Rossall
Married by Banns legally published by: Thos. Turner Vicar
Register: Marriages 1791 - 1812, Page 16, Entry 64
Source: LDS Film 1526408


Burial: 10 Oct 1834 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
Barnaby Myerscough -
Age: 65
Abode: Poulton
Buried by: W. Thornber Offg. Minister
Register: Burials 1813 - 1837, Page 181, Entry 1445
Source: LDS Film 1517688

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

Incidentally, if you look up a marriage on lan-opc, you can easily see the timewise surrounding marrs - for instance, I can see James Tomlison, a Fletcher-Sandon witness, is also a witness on 5 of the preceding marrs and 5 of the 6 following marrs - I would say he's a "professional witness" - maybe the parish clerk or his rellie or mate.

Marriage: 25 Jan 1825 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
James Hull - Bricklayer, this Parish
Isabel Myerscough - (X), Spinster, this Parish
Witness: Thomas Wade; Isabella Wade
Married by Banns by: R. Bowness Curate
Register: Marriages 1813 - 1834, Page 116, Entry 347
Source: LDS Film 1526408


http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

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Baptism: 2 Jul 1815 St Mary the Virgin, Egton cum Newland, Lancashire, England
Isabella Sandham - Daughter of William Sandham & Isabella
Abode: Smithygreen
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: Jas. Burns
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1841 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 71
Source: LDS Film 1040312

Thank you very much. I've copied these and will look into it. I don't know how you do it so quickly
Pat

Marriage: 14 Nov 1836 St Leonard, Walton-le-Dale, Lancashire, England
John Fletcher - (X), this Chapelry
Isabella Sandon - (X), this Chapelry
Witness: Robert Baldwin, (X); James Tomlison
Married by Banns by: Walter Riky (Sub Curate)
Register: Marriages 1830 - 1839 from the Bishop's Transcrpts, Page 109, Entry 327
Source: LDS Film 1502382

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1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Crown Street, Preston, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Fletcher Head Married Male 38 1813 Cotton Warper Fulwood, Lancashire, England
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Isabella Fletcher Wife Married Female 38 1813 Power Loom Weaver Lancashire, England
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James Fletcher Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Power Loom Weaver Lancashire, England
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Elizabeth Fletcher Daughter - Female 11 1840 Nurse Lancashire, England
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Thomas Fletcher Son - Male 9 1842 Scholar Lancashire, England
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Mary Ann Fletcher Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Lancashire, England
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Joseph Fletcher Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Lancashire, England
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John Crook Brother Married Male 63 1788 Cotton Warper Samlesbury, Lancashire, England

ancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936




Name: Isabella Sandon
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Nov 1836
Parish: Walton-le-dale, Lancashire, England
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Spouse: John Fletcher
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


1841??

in the 1841 England Census


Name: John Fletcher
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Brindle
Hundred: Leyland
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Brindle
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 525
Book: 1
Folio: 22
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
John Fletcher 25
Isaba Fletcher 25
James Fletcher 3
Elizabeth Fletcher 1
Richd Fletcher 15


Andy

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Lancashire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1936
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Name: Isabella Myerscough
Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 23 Jan 1825
Parish: Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
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Spouse: James Hull
Register Type: Parish Register


1841 census

in the 1841 England Census

Name: James Hull
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Preston
Hundred: Amounderness
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Preston
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 499
Book: 4
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Hull 35 Innkeeper
Isabella Hull 35
Ellen Hull 15
Christopher Hull 12
Isabella Hull 10
William Hull 6
Elizabeth Hull 4
James Hull 2

Andy

I have a relative Mary Ann Fletcher born 1845 in Walton Le Dale Preston Lancashire. Her father was John Fletcher and her mother was nee Sandham. Her parents must have been married before 1837 as I can't find any marriage.
Mary Ann married Barnaby Hull who was born 1843 in Preston and married Mary Ann in 1865 in Preston. His father was James Hull and mother was nee Myerscough. They also married before 1837.
Both fathers died before the children married. James Hull possibly 1855/56 and John Fletcher 1853?
Can anyone suggest anything.
Pat