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Samuel Joseph Albon 1899-1982

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Colin

Colin Report 4 Oct 2016 15:40


I am looking for anything on my great uncle Sam please. He had siblings of Bertie, Harry, Reginald, Sidney & Ernest. Ernest being my Grandad. he lived in Potters Bar. Hi parents were William Albon1860 & Louisa Welch 1859-1942

Colin

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2016 15:45

What do you hope to find about him?
You know his birth and death dates, and names of parents and siblings, so presumably you have found records for him?

If you know any more about him than you've mentioned, please let us know.


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2016 15:47

For helpers' reference:

Samuel Albon
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Samuel Albon
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Father: William Albon
Mother: Louisa Albon
Birth Place: Potters Bar
Civil Parish: South Mimms
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Potters Bar
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: Barnet
Sub-registration district: South Mimms
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1229
Folio: 100
Page Number: 46
Household schedule number: 301
Household Members:
Name Age
William Albon 41
Louisa Albon 41
Bertie Albon 9
Charles Albon 8
Hary Albon 6
Reginald Albon 4
Samuel Albon 1


Samuel Albon
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Samuel Albon
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Potter's Bar
Civil Parish: South Mimms
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address: Oak Cottages, Potters Bar
Occupation: School
Registration district: Barnet
Registration District Number: 131
Sub-registration district: South Mimms
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 71
Piece: 7135
Household Members:
Name Age
William Albon 51
Louisa Albon 51
Bertie William Albon 19
Harry Albon 16
Walter Albon 14
Samuel Albon 11
Sydney Albon 9

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2016 15:51

His birth:

Births Mar 1900 (>99%)
Albon Samuel Barnet 3a 311

And death:


England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries
Name: Samuel Albon
Birth: 2 Dec 1899
Death: Jun 1982 - Elstree, Hertfordshire, England

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2016 15:58

The 1911 census shows 5 children, Bertie William 19, Harry 16, Walter 14, Samuel 11 and Sydney 9. Parents had 7 children, 6 still living. I assume Ernest was the missing one? Already left home? And another one had died.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2016 16:03

When was your Ernest born, Colin?

greyghost

greyghost Report 4 Oct 2016 16:09

Parents married 1890

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Transcription

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name ALBON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1890
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM ALBON married one of these people
LOUISA WELCH, EMMA LONG
District BARNET
District number -
County Middlesex
Country England
Volume 3A
Page 310

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 4 Oct 2016 16:19

William Albon

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Record Image View

Name: William Albon
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Age: 30
Spouse: Louisa Welsh
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jun 1890
Parish: St Giles, South Mimms
Borough: Hertfordshire
Father Name: Samuel Albon
Spouse Father: William Welch
Register Type: Parish Register

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2016 16:25

1939

Albon Household (2 People) 184 Barnet Road , Potters Bar U.D., Middlesex, England

Samuel Albon 02 Dec 1899 Male Painter Single
Sarah L M Albon 21 Oct 1859 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed
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Presumably Sarah Louise Mary Albon is his mother:
Name: Sarah L M Albon
Birth Date: abt 1859
Date of Registration: Mar 1942
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a Page: 1457
----------------------------------------------------

He's at the same address later too, with Margaret A Albon- Electoral register:

1946- 1964
184 Barnet Road, Potters Bar
Samuel Albon
Margaret A Albon
---------------------------------------------------------

Father's death:
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations)

ALBON William of 2 Oak Cottages Potters Bar Middlesex died 21 August 1921 Administration London 12 April to Louisa Albon widow.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2016 16:42

Samuel is on ERs on Ancestry from 1919 - 1964, in Barnet Road, Potters Bar.

Living with him are a variety of siblings.

Up to 1939 (some years) there's also a Sarah Louise Mary Albon with him (and sometimes siblings).
In 1931 she's with Walter Reginald Albon.

Sarah's death:

Deaths Mar 1942 (>99%)
Albon Sarah L M 83 Edmonton 3a 1457


From 1945 onwards there's a Margaret A Albon with Samuel.

Just possibly Margaret's death??

Deaths Jun 1979 (42%)
ALBON MARGARET ANN 18FE1890 N TYNESIDE W 2 1135


I don't know who Sarah and Margaret are.

So far, if they're sister-in law / wife,(Sarah's presumably a sister-in -law) I don't see marriages to Albons.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Oct 2016 16:44

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1360724

(William on above relating, by Son Walter)

Chris :)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Oct 2016 16:47

It's a pity Colin didn't continue on the same thread.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2016 16:49

I suspect this is the Margaret with Samuel (His niece?):

First name(s) MARGARET ANN
Last name ALBON
Gender Female
Birth day 15
Birth month 4
Birth year 1915
Death quarter 1
Death year 1995
District ELSTREE & POTTERS BAR
District number 5311
Register number 29A
Entry number 166
Date of registration mm/yy 0195
County Hertfordshire
Country England

1939:
Atkinson Household (3 People) 33 Buckingham Avenue , Friern Barnet M.B., Middlesex, England

Margaret Ann Albon 15 Apr 1915 Female Maid Companion Single 165 3
Francis John Atkinson 11 Feb 1883 Male Retired Advertising Manager Married 165 1
Florence Mary Atkinson 09 Nov 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2016 17:03

His mother's baptism:

First name(s) Sarah Louisa Mary
Last name Welch
Birth year 1859
Birth date 21 Oct 1859
Baptism year 1860
Baptism date 24 Jun 1860
Place Potters Bar
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Drover
Mother's first names(s) Ann
Country England
Record set Hertfordshire Baptisms

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 4 Oct 2016 18:09

Margaret Ann living with Samuel was his niece (Daughter of Samuel's brother Charles Ernest- he married Margaret Davidson)

Colin

Colin Report 5 Oct 2016 12:00

Samuel Albon was born 2nd Dec 1899 and died 26th April 1982. He was a farm worker and lived ay 65 Oak Mere Ave Potters Bar when he died. The informant was his niece Margaret Ann Albon.
I am unable to trace any marriage records for Samuel.

Thank you for all information already supplied.

Colin

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 5 Oct 2016 14:08

What makes you think he married?

Colin

Colin Report 5 Oct 2016 14:52

HI. No reason really, just trying find if he had been married or not. I can then move on

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 5 Oct 2016 18:28

It doesn't look as if he did.
He's not living with a wife up to 1964, anyway, going by the electoral rolls.

If he did marry it would have been between 1964 and 1982, but there's no sign of any such marriage.

Colin

Colin Report 6 Oct 2016 11:19

Brilliant Thank you. This does help and it confirms my own thoughts