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10 Oct 2016 03:49 |
Hi Genes Members I have in my tree a Charlotte Ann Aylett born 1852 44 Hilsted St. St. Pancras Middlesex England. I have her parents as John Robert Aylett born St. Pancras and Charlotte Ellis born Chelsea Middlesex England. I am trying to find out if Charlotte born 1852 had any siblings, can someone please look up in Ancestry as I cant find anything on them if she had any siblings. I have tried the census but not getting anywhere. Thanks Jill
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Oct 2016 06:34 |
Have you tried FreeBMD ?
Was her birth registered , if not it maybe siblings weren't either as it wasn't compulsory till 1875
What about her marriage. Sometimes a sibling would be a witness
When you say census doesn't help does that mean you haven't found her on any census
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10 Oct 2016 06:37 |
Well her birth was reg and she was baptised CHARLOTTE ANN Last name AYLETT Birth year 1852 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's last name - District ST. PANCRAS County London Country England Volume 1B Page 76 Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
First name(s) Charlotte Ann Last name Aylett Gender Female Birth year 1852 Birth place - Baptism year 1853 Baptism date 05 Nov 1853 Place St Pancras County London Country England Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Aylett Mother's first name(s) Charlotte Mother's last name - Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Births & baptisms Collections from Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Oct 2016 06:54 |
Not seeing them on any census .wonder if this is him
First name(s) JOHN Last name AYLETT Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 4 Death year 1852 District ST. PANCRAS County London Volume 1B Page 52 Country England Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
And Charlotte remarried ??
First name(s) CHARLOTTE Last name AYLETT Marriage quarter 1 Marriage year 1857 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ CHARLOTTE AYLETT married one of these people WILLIAM BULLEY HASSER, HARRAWAY SLAPE District PANCRAS District number - County London Country England Volume 1B Page 74 Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Oct 2016 07:02 |
Yes she did remarry!!!!
William Bulley Last name Hasser Name note - Marriage year 1857 Marriage date 10 Feb 1857 Marriage place Saint Pancras Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte Spouse's last name Aylett Or Ellis County London Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl
William Bulley Hasser Spouse: Charlotte Aylett Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 10 Feb 1857 Parish: Parish Chapel, St Pancras Borough: Camden Father Name: Robert Bulley Hasser Spouse Father: Richard Ellis Register Type: Parish Register
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10 Oct 2016 07:10 |
Yes she did Shirley:
John Robert died in 1852- carpenter who died 16 October 1852 at Wilstead Street- Will was proved by Charlotte Asser (wife of William Asser) in 1859:
National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), Name: John Robart Aylett [Robert Aylett] Death Date: 16 Oct 1852 Death Place: Middlesex, England Probate Date: 18 Jan 1859 Registry: Principal Registry
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10 Oct 2016 07:15 |
More info on the Marriage
Marriage 10 Feb 1857, St Pancras Church, St Pancras Groom William Bulley Hasser,. Bachelor, occ Baker Father Robert Bulley Hasser,. Occ Groom Bride Charlotte Aylett, Widow Father Name Richard Ellis occ Painter
Address for both St Pancras Street
Witnesses Frederick Jenkins & Martha Shannon
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Oct 2016 07:20 |
This looks like them on the 1881 census
Name: Charlotte Afser [Charlotte Asser] Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: William Afser Gender: Female Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: St Pancras County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 23 Sandwich St Marital Status: Married Education:
Employment status:
View image Occupation: Mantle Maker Registration district: Pancras Sub registration district: Grays Inn Lane ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 190 Folio: 27 Page Number: 48 Household Members: Name Age William Afser 46 Charlotte Afser 49 Clarissa Ellis 13
Note the nieces name
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Stephen
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10 Oct 2016 07:26 |
Thanks guys i will have a read thanks again members
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LondonBelle
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10 Oct 2016 07:30 |
In case you haven't got it details of Charlotte's first marriage
Marriage 21 Jul 1851, St Pancras Church, St Pancras Groom John Robert Aylett, Bachelor, occ Carpenter, Add Wilstead or Hilstead St Father's Name Isaac Aylett Dead Bride Charlotte Ellis, Spinster, Add Chapel St Father's Name Richard Ellis occ Painter
Witnesses Richard Ellis & Mary Ann Ellis
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Oct 2016 07:34 |
1871 census. No other children with them and Charlotte Aylett is down as Asser
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stanhope Street, St Pancras, Pancras, London, England William Asser Head - Male 37 1834 - Essex, England Occ horse keeper Charlotte Asser Wife - Female 38 1833 - Middlesex, England Transcription Charlotte Asser Daughter - Female 18- 1853. Middlesex. Occ mantle maker
So William and Charlotte dont seem to have had any children
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LondonBelle
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10 Oct 2016 07:47 |
If John Robert & Charlotte Married on 21 Jul 1851 and John Robert died on 16 Oct 1852 I doubt that there would be any further children to the Marriage
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According to Charlotte's Bap she was born 15 June 1852 and Bap on 5 Nov 1853 when her Father was listed as John Robert Aylett Carpenter (deceased)
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10 Oct 2016 07:55 |
1891 censud Name: William Auer [William Asser] Age: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Auer Gender: Male Where born: Romford, Essex, England Civil Parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Employment status:
View image Registration district: Islington Sub registration district: Islington South West ED, institution, or vessel: 61 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 162 Folio: 77 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age William Auer 55 occ groom Charlotte Auer 54. Occ mantle maker ( dress)
Name: William Asser Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Registration Year: 1892 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 56 Registration district: Pancras Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 101
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Stephen
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10 Oct 2016 08:22 |
Thanks guys a lot to sort out the last name a lot of variaties of Williams surname. Thanks again for your help. Jill
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Chris Ho :)
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10 Oct 2016 08:48 |
Would say that 1852 Pancras address was Wilstead Street. (looking at Baptism, sometimes, Wilsted)
Chris :)
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1851 (Find My Past) William Aylett Head Unmarried Male 28 1823 Builder St Pancras, Middlesex, England Mary Aylett Sister Unmarried Female 21 1830 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England John Aylett Brother Unmarried Male 24 1827 Carpenter St Pancras, Middlesex, England Hannah Aylett Sister Unmarried Female 13 1838 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Susana Aylett Sister - Female 17 1834 House Property St Pancras, Middlesex, England
(also at 31) William North Head Married Male 30 1821 Brewer Servant St Pancras, Middlesex, England Sally North Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Middlesex, England William North Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Limehouse, Middlesex, England Dannell North Son - Male 0 1851 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Street Wilsted Street (31) Parish Saint Pancras County Middlesex Registration district Saint Pancras Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1496 Folio 154 Page 29
Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- AYLETT John Robert St Pancras 1 381 ELLIS Charlotte St Pancras 1 381
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LondonBelle
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10 Oct 2016 09:03 |
Just looking at Daughter, Charlotte Ann's, marriage to Edward French in 1878 and note that one of the Witnesses is William Asser.
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10 Oct 2016 09:18 |
Marriages Mar 1878 (>99%) AYLETT Charlotte Ann Marylebone 1a 855 French Edward Marylebone 1a 855
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 37, King Street, St Pancras, London, England
Charlotte Asser Head Widow Female 70 1831 Chelsea, Middlesex, England Sydney French Grand Son Single Male 20 1881 Silversmith St Pancras, Middlesex, Herbert French Grand Son Single Male 18 1883 Woodworking Machinist Clerkenwell, Middlesex, Charles French Grand Son Single Male 15 1886 Silversmith Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Charlotte Asser in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930 Name: Charlotte Asser Birth Date: 1831 Admission Age: 71 From Where Admitted: 2 Kings Street Admission Date: 1902-1906 (30/03/03) Discharge Date: 1902-1906 Record Type: Admission and Discharge Borough: Camden Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Place: London, England Title: St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1902-1906
Charlotte Asser in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930 Name: Charlotte Asser Birth Date: 1830 Admission Age: 76 ??? From Whence Admitted: 2 Kings Street Admission Date: 1906-1908 Record Type: Admission Borough: Camden Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras Place: London, England Title: St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1906-1908
Charlotte Asser in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Charlotte Asser Estimated birth year: abt 1836 Registration Year: 1908 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 72 Registration district: St Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 116
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10 Oct 2016 10:24 |
Thanks all now to do some reading :-)
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