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Birth Look Up Please

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Stephen

Stephen Report 10 Oct 2016 03:49

Hi Genes Members I have in my tree a Charlotte Ann Aylett born 1852 44 Hilsted St. St. Pancras Middlesex England. I have her parents as John Robert Aylett born St. Pancras and Charlotte Ellis born Chelsea Middlesex England. I am trying to find out if Charlotte born 1852 had any siblings, can someone please look up in Ancestry as I cant find anything on them if she had any siblings. I have tried the census but not getting anywhere. Thanks Jill

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 06:34

Have you tried FreeBMD ?

Was her birth registered , if not it maybe siblings weren't either as it wasn't compulsory till 1875

What about her marriage. Sometimes a sibling would be a witness

When you say census doesn't help does that mean you haven't found her on any census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 06:37

Well her birth was reg and she was baptised
CHARLOTTE ANN
Last name AYLETT
Birth year 1852
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District ST. PANCRAS
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 76
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd



First name(s) Charlotte Ann
Last name Aylett
Gender Female
Birth year 1852
Birth place -
Baptism year 1853
Baptism date 05 Nov 1853
Place St Pancras
County London
Country England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Aylett
Mother's first name(s) Charlotte
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 06:54

Not seeing them on any census .wonder if this is him


First name(s) JOHN
Last name AYLETT
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1852
District ST. PANCRAS
County London
Volume 1B
Page 52
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd


And Charlotte remarried ??


First name(s) CHARLOTTE
Last name AYLETT
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1857
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CHARLOTTE AYLETT married one of these people
WILLIAM BULLEY HASSER, HARRAWAY SLAPE
District PANCRAS
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1B
Page 74
Record set England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 07:02

Yes she did remarry!!!!

William Bulley
Last name Hasser
Name note -
Marriage year 1857
Marriage date 10 Feb 1857
Marriage place Saint Pancras
Spouse's first name(s) Charlotte
Spouse's last name Aylett Or Ellis
County London
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl


William Bulley Hasser
Spouse: Charlotte Aylett
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Feb 1857
Parish: Parish Chapel, St Pancras
Borough: Camden
Father Name: Robert Bulley Hasser
Spouse Father: Richard Ellis
Register Type: Parish Register

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 10 Oct 2016 07:10

Yes she did Shirley:

John Robert died in 1852- carpenter who died 16 October 1852 at Wilstead Street- Will was proved by Charlotte Asser (wife of William Asser) in 1859:

National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),
Name: John Robart Aylett
[Robert Aylett]
Death Date: 16 Oct 1852
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 18 Jan 1859
Registry: Principal Registry

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Oct 2016 07:15

More info on the Marriage

Marriage 10 Feb 1857, St Pancras Church, St Pancras
Groom William Bulley Hasser,. Bachelor, occ Baker
Father Robert Bulley Hasser,. Occ Groom
Bride Charlotte Aylett, Widow
Father Name Richard Ellis occ Painter

Address for both St Pancras Street

Witnesses Frederick Jenkins & Martha Shannon

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 07:20

This looks like them on the 1881 census

Name: Charlotte Afser
[Charlotte Asser]
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1832
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: William Afser
Gender: Female
Where born: Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 23 Sandwich St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Mantle Maker
Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Grays Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 190
Folio: 27
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
William Afser 46
Charlotte Afser 49
Clarissa Ellis 13

Note the nieces name

Stephen

Stephen Report 10 Oct 2016 07:26

Thanks guys i will have a read thanks again members

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Oct 2016 07:30

In case you haven't got it details of Charlotte's first marriage

Marriage 21 Jul 1851, St Pancras Church, St Pancras
Groom John Robert Aylett, Bachelor, occ Carpenter, Add Wilstead or Hilstead St
Father's Name Isaac Aylett Dead
Bride Charlotte Ellis, Spinster, Add Chapel St
Father's Name Richard Ellis occ Painter

Witnesses Richard Ellis & Mary Ann Ellis

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 07:34

1871 census. No other children with them and Charlotte Aylett is down as Asser

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Stanhope Street, St Pancras, Pancras, London, England

William Asser Head - Male 37 1834 - Essex, England Occ horse keeper
Charlotte Asser Wife - Female 38 1833 - Middlesex, England Transcription
Charlotte Asser Daughter - Female 18- 1853. Middlesex. Occ mantle maker

So William and Charlotte dont seem to have had any children

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Oct 2016 07:47

If John Robert & Charlotte Married on 21 Jul 1851 and John Robert died on 16 Oct 1852 I doubt that there would be any further children to the Marriage

Edit

According to Charlotte's Bap she was born 15 June 1852 and Bap on 5 Nov 1853 when her Father was listed as John Robert Aylett Carpenter (deceased)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2016 07:55

1891 censud
Name: William Auer
[William Asser]
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Charlotte Auer
Gender: Male
Where born: Romford, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Islington South West
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 162
Folio: 77
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
William Auer 55 occ groom
Charlotte Auer 54. Occ mantle maker ( dress)



Name: William Asser
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Registration Year: 1892
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Pancras
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 101

Stephen

Stephen Report 10 Oct 2016 08:22

Thanks guys a lot to sort out the last name a lot of variaties of Williams surname. Thanks again for your help.
Jill

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Oct 2016 08:48

Would say that 1852 Pancras address was Wilstead Street. (looking at Baptism, sometimes, Wilsted)

Chris :)

Edits

1851 (Find My Past)
William Aylett Head Unmarried Male 28 1823 Builder St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Mary Aylett Sister Unmarried Female 21 1830 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
John Aylett Brother Unmarried Male 24 1827 Carpenter St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Hannah Aylett Sister Unmarried Female 13 1838 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Susana Aylett Sister - Female 17 1834 House Property St Pancras, Middlesex, England

(also at 31)
William North Head Married Male 30 1821 Brewer Servant St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Sally North Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Middlesex, England
William North Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Dannell North Son - Male 0 1851 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England
Street Wilsted Street (31)
Parish Saint Pancras
County Middlesex
Registration district Saint Pancras
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 1496
Folio 154
Page 29


Marriages Sep 1851 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------
AYLETT John Robert St Pancras 1 381
ELLIS Charlotte St Pancras 1 381

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 10 Oct 2016 09:03

Just looking at Daughter, Charlotte Ann's, marriage to Edward French in 1878 and note that one of the Witnesses is William Asser.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 10 Oct 2016 09:18

Marriages Mar 1878   (>99%)
AYLETT  Charlotte Ann  Marylebone  1a 855
 French  Edward Marylebone 1a 855

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
37, King Street, St Pancras, London, England

Charlotte Asser Head Widow Female 70 1831 Chelsea, Middlesex, England
Sydney French Grand Son Single Male 20 1881 Silversmith St Pancras, Middlesex,
Herbert French Grand Son Single Male 18 1883 Woodworking Machinist
Clerkenwell, Middlesex,
Charles French Grand Son Single Male 15 1886 Silversmith Clerkenwell, Middlesex


Charlotte Asser  in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name: Charlotte Asser
Birth Date: 1831
Admission Age: 71
From Where Admitted: 2 Kings Street
Admission Date: 1902-1906 (30/03/03)
Discharge Date: 1902-1906
Record Type: Admission and Discharge
Borough: Camden
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Place: London, England
Title: St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1902-1906


Charlotte Asser in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1659-1930
Name: Charlotte Asser Birth Date: 1830
Admission Age: 76 ???
From Whence Admitted: 2 Kings Street
Admission Date: 1906-1908
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Camden
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Pancras
Place: London, England
Title: St Pancras Workhouse Register, 1906-1908


Charlotte Asser in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Charlotte Asser
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Registration Year: 1908
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 116

Stephen

Stephen Report 10 Oct 2016 10:24

Thanks all now to do some reading :-)