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Thanks all for the bits of info. I have the marriage certificate for Martha and William Webb. Martha was his 2nd wife his first having died leaving him with two young boys. As circumstances would have he then died leaving Martha with their own two boys together with his slightly older sons.

The reason I believe John was his father's name is its recorded on the marriage certificate in the name of father column. This rather confirmed to me that one of my options the William born in Ipswich was the line I was looking for. In the 1901 census it describes his work as a telegraph wire worker. Going back years we knew from one of his son's with Martha that he was something to do with telegraph/ early telephone lines. I even knew the two older boys from his first marriage were a William and Bernard but the ages I was given were incorrect.

So I had most of the info but couldn't put it in order because knowing that William died before the 1911 census I just forgot to search with Martha as the head of the family now that William had passed, which you kindly gave me. Now I can delve further into this side of the family.

Have you got his will and death certificate to help with any further information available?

I put the details of the William married to Martha to eliminate him as you said he died in 1910.

Why do you believe his Father's name may have been John?

Thanks

The Suffolk John could be the correct family

1891
John Webb
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Webb
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Siloam Place


Registration district: Ipswich
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1471
Folio: 6
Page Number: 5

John Webb 48
Mary Ann Webb 46
Robt Chas Webb 26
Alfred Webb 14
Alice Webb 11
Susann Webb 7

Occupation says Labourer, Dock Railway

He might well have tinkered with the engines. Alternatively William could have beefed up the occupation as his bride's father was a Master Builder

Going back to William's first wife - parish record of marriage

William Webb (Telegraph Linesman)
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Age: 24
Spouse: Sarah Sophia Workman
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 16 Jul 1899
Parish: North Brixton Christ Church
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: John Webb - Mechanic
Spouse Father: Robert Workman - Master builder
Register Type: Parish Register
Address for both120 Brixton Road

Witnesses Abraham John King, Alice Welde?, Henry O(r,s)borne

Possibly John & Mary Ann's marriage???

Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%)
Barber Mary A Ipswich 4a 1370 <<<
King Sarah A B Ipswich 4a 1370
SMITH Charles Ipswich 4a 1370
Webb John C Ipswich 4a 1370 <<<

1871

John Webb
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Webb
[Betsey Harding] - transcriber assumes she was related to the other family at the same address
Gender: Male
Where born: Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Ipswich St Clement
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
Town: Ipswich
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Ipswich
Sub-registration district: St Clement
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 202
Piece: 1754
Folio: 107
Page Number: 33


Name Age
John Webb 28
Mary Ann Webb 25
Charles Webb 6
Sarah Webb 3
Minni Webb 8 Months

(different household)
Charles Harding 55
Betsey Harding 38
William Harding 15
Frederick Harding 11
Charles Harding 9
Prudence Harding 7
John Harding 4
James Harding 3

Assuming we're following the correct William Webb, his baptism?

Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911 Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Webb
Birth year 1875
Baptism year 1875
Baptism date 27 Jun 1875
Parish Ipswich, St Clement
Place Ipswich
Father's first name(s) John
Mothers first name(s) Mary Ann
Father's occupation Porter
Residence Ipswich
Notes Siloam Pl
County Suffolk
Country England
Source Suffolk Baptism Index (part 3)
Record set Suffolk Baptism Index 1538-1911
(Findmypast)

If you think William's father might be John, have you considered this?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Siloam Place, Duke Street, Ipswich St Clement, Ipswich, Suffolk, England

John Webb Head Married Male 34 1847 Labourer Harwich, Essex, England
Mary A Webb Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Charles Webb Son Single Male 17 1864 Errand Boy Ipswich, Suffolk, England
William Webb Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Ipswich, Suffolk, England <<<
Alfred Webb Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Sarah Webb Daughter Single Female 13 1868 General Servt Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Maria Webb Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Alice Webb Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

104, Beulah Road North, Croydon, Surrey, England
William Webb Head Married Male 26 1875 Telegraph Wire Repairer Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Sarah S Webb Wife Married Female 28 1873 - St George's, Middlesex, England

Could she have been ecomomical with the truth? Might this be William Robert's baptism?

Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1912
William Robert Pierce Webb
Baptism Date: 24 Nov 1901
Archive Provided Parish: Upper Norwood, All Saints with St Margaret
Parish as it Appears: Upper Norwood
Father: William Webb - Telegraph Linesman
Mother: Sarah Sophia Webb
Reference Number: 7583/1/2
Address 104 Beulah, North

Bernard's baptism
Bernard James Robert Webb
Baptism Date: 27 Mar 1904
Archive Provided Parish: Upper Norwood, All Saints with St Margaret
Parish as it Appears: Upper Norwood
Father: William Webb
Mother: Sarah Sophia Webb
Reference Number: 7583/1/3

Sarah Sophia's death
Deaths Sep 1906 (>99%)
Webb Sarah Sophia 34 Croydon 2a 203

May be her marriage to William Webb?

Marriages Sep 1899 (>99%)
Webb William Lambeth 1d 610
Workman Sarah Sophia Lambeth 1d 610

Thanks. I have the details you mention. Other than his 2nd marriage to Martha we know very little about him. I have been searching BMD's. census's and newspapers with little joy. His father's name may have been John but no idea about his mother's name, whether they were originally from the Croydon, South London area or migrated there at some point. There are a couple of possibilities including the one you mention.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20 Alfred Road, Croydon, Surrey, England

Martha Amelia Webb Head Widow Female Home 38 1873 Upper Norwood London
William Robert Webb Son - Male - 9 1902 Thornton Heath Surrey
Bernard James Webb Son - Male - 7 1904 Thornton Heath Surrey
Reginald Lawrence Webb Son - Male - 2 1909 Balham London
Stanley Cyril Webb Son - Male - 0 1911 South Norwood Surrey
Reginald Whitehead Brother - Male - 18 1893 Thornton Heath Surrey
Emma Malthouse Visitor Widow Female - 66 1845 Tonbridge Kent

Although crossed out, the image says her 'current' marriage is 4 years old (which ties in with the 1907 marriage malyon posted) and that the 'present' marriage produced 4 children, all of whom were living.

In case Emma Malthouse is relevant, the image says she had been married 42 years, had 4 children one of which had died

the marriage to Martha Amelia no middle name for william

Marriages Dec 1907   (>99%)

WEBB
 William
 
 Croydon
 2a
650
  
WHITEHEAD
 Martha Amelia
 
 Croydon
 2a
650

The William who died in Jan/March 1911 (so could have been 1910) was probably this one from probate, to help in elimination:
of 20 Alfred Road, South Norwood, died 19th February 1911, to Martha Amelia Webb, widow.

What information have you got about him other than name and birth year and supposed death?

there is this one with a middle name and another William Webb born 1875 and died 1911 in croyden.

William Ernest Webb
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Registration Year: 1910
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 35
Registration district: Croydon
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 226

Hi, I am researching a William Webb born 1875, died 1910 in the Croydon area. I believe he was twice married, probably widowed before re-marrying.