Find Ancestors

Checking for Deaths on FreeBMD

Deaths Jun 1884 (>99%)
Bradshaw Charles John 0 St Saviour 1d 23

Horace George (1884) not reg bef 1892 in St Saviour or St Olave
Nor Cyril Anneley (1884)

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Bradshaw Emma 0 St. Olave 1d 149

Unless we can find baptisms (and Ancestry is playing up at the moment) the only way to discover if either Charles John or Emma were their children is buy the BC

The 3 census taken during the time James and Elizabeth were married for our information as to ages of the living children and birth places

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
124 Himley Road Tooting S W, Wandsworth Borough, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
James Bradshaw Head Married Male Printers Labourer 55 1856 L Ondon Walworth
Elizabeth Bradshaw Wife Married Female - 54 1857 L Ondon Walworth
Jane Bradshaw Daughter Single Female Book Folder 29 1882 L Ondon Walworth
--------------------------------

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Guinness Trust Buildings, 18, Pages Walk, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bradshaw Head Married Male 45 1856 Printers Labourer Newington, London,
Elizabeth Bradshaw Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Newington, London, England
Jane Bradshaw Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Bookfolder Newington, London,
James Bradshaw Son Single Male 18 1883 Printers Warehouseman Newington, London,
Ada Bradshaw Daughter Single Female 15 1886 Bookfolder Newington, London, England
------------------------------------------

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
East Street, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Bradshaw Head Married Male 35 1856 Printers Labourer Newington, Surrey,
Elizabeth Bradshaw Wife Married Female 34 1857 - Newington, Surrey, England
James Bradshaw Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England
Jane Bradshaw Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England
Ada Bradshaw Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England
Elizabeth Kalthoeber Mother In Law Widow Female 54 1837 Charwoman Lambeth, Surrey,

Jane born 1882, Walworth (Newington on 1891)
James born 1883, Newington, Surrey
Ada born 1886, Newington, Surrey

In 1891, the parents are living in Newington, St Saviour, Southwark
In 1901 they are living in Bermondsey, St Olave, Southwark
1911 they’re living in Wandsworth.

Looking at the years they were born, there’s a good chance that at least one child was born between James (1883) and Ada (1885)

??? for the named children???

Births Mar 1882
Bradshaw Jane Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 139

Births Mar 1883
Bradshaw James Charles St. Saviour 1d 123

Births Jun 1885
Bradshaw Ada Florence St. Saviour 1d 40

Possible siblings born in the same district in 1884

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
BRADSHAW Charles John St. Saviour 1d 31
BRADSHAW Horace George St. Saviour 1d 180

Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Bradshaw Cyril Anneley St. Saviour 1d 121

There are an awful lot of Bradshaws born in the St Saviour registration district to 1886-1901.

Only the one Bradshaw birth in St Olave 1891-1901
Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Bradshaw Emma St. Olave 1d 235

We don’t know exactly when they moved to Wansdworth.

The other children will have been born in or around Walworth or Tooting (in later years up to 1911.
I'm afraid I need to go to bed now as have an early morning tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Will check again tomorrow

I can find james jane and ada's births there is a birth for a Elizabeth

Elizabeth Harriett Bradshaw
England Births and Christenings
Name
Elizabeth Harriett Bradshaw
Gender
Female
Christening Date
06 Dec 1885
Christening Place
Croydon, Surrey, England
Father's Name
James Bradshaw
Mother's Name
Elizabeth Bradshaw

Yes Malyon that's the marriage.

Marriages Jun 1881   (>99%)

BRADSHAW
 James
 
 St. Saviour
 1d
49
  

  
KALTHOEBER
 Elizabeth
 
 St. Saviour
 1d
49
  
KALTHORBER
 Elizabeth
 
 St Saviour Southwark
 1d
49
  

Probably only by elimination

Try FreeBMD for possible births and deaths between the census,s

It's also worth trying to find baptism in the London parish records

On the 1911 census (RG14; Piece: 2358) for James Bradshaw Head 55 Married Printer's Labourer born Walworth, London it is shown that he had 6 children, three of whom had died. One of his children is shown as Jane Bradshaw. I have him in the 1901 (RG13; Piece: 389; Folio: 135; Page: 4) and 1891 ( RG12; Piece: 362; Folio: 6; Page: 4) census records and Jane, together with two other children: Ada and James are present. James married Elizabeth Sarah Kalthoeber on 5 June 1881, just after the 1881 census was taken. My question is how if at all I can find the births and deaths of the other three children with only the above information available?