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Chris :)

01 September 1849 - Windsor and Eton Express - Windsor, Berkshire

Deaths
On the 26th ult., at Uxbridge, Mrs. Sarah Carter, in her 67th year.
(Abode, Uxbridge)


All London, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980 (Ancestry)

Sarah Carter abt 1783 (Burial Date) 29 Aug 1849 St Margaret, Uxbridge Hillingdon

(also your John and Sarah, if you don't have them?. Abode, Uxbridge on both)


(another about below also)

1841 (Find My Past)
Sarah Carter Female 50 1791 (Green Grocer)
Thos Carter Male 20 1821 Middlesex, England
Ann Carter Female 20 1821 Middlesex, England
Matilda Gowlett Female 7 1834 Middlesex, England
Street High Street Bell Yard
Parish or township Hillingdon
Town Uxbridge
County Middlesex
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 656
Book number 5
Folio number 12
Page number 16

(Dell family on page 23)


Edits

http://www.scardfamily.id.au/GOWLETT%20William%20base%20born%20son%20of%20Matilda.html

(relates to Carter family above)

Hello Maureen,

Were there any addresses on the death certificates for Sarah & John-Were they still at Bell Yard? Was no relationship or address given for Sarah Carter?

re Sarah Carter.....now I am really puzzled. I have just looked at the death certificates for John and Sarah Dell, the parents of the Sarah I am looking for. Sarah Died 1844 and John 1846 and in both instances the informant was Sarah Carter, pesent at death.
but the missing Sarah married widower George Roberson in 1848.
there is obviously a Carter connection. I need to find out what was happening!
Sarah was 18 when her daughter was born, and 20 when she married George Roberson, surely she cant have been married previously,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debtors%27_prison

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/bankrupts-insolvent-debtors/

(there is above, second one has advice, if any help)

Chris :)

Edits (items come up, google search, john dell 1843 debtor)

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/20204/page/894/data.pdf

t hank you so much for all your hard work I would love to know more about John Dell and Debtors Prison, would there be a record I wonder. Both John and wife Sarah died in their early 40s from consumption, I have the death certificates, I know they were very poor/
interested to see that son John in 1851 was livng with a family named Meade..his grandmother (mother of Sarah) was Sarah Meade. (too many Sarahs) so this family may have been his cousins.
My grandmother Clara talked a lot about her mother Sarah Dell (the illegitimate daughter of Sarah Dell Roberson) but she never mentioned her grandmother which makes me think that she never knew her
so I have a lot to think aboutnow.
I apologise if there are a lot of typos here, Ive just had cataract surgery!
once again thank you very much, I am very grateful to you
Best wishes,
Maureen

t hank you so much for all your hard work I would love to know more about John Dell and Debtors Prison, would there be a record I wonder. Both John and wife Sarah died in their early 40s from consumption, I have the death certificates, I know they were very poor/
interested to see that son John in 1851 was livng with a family named Meade..his grandmother (mother of Sarah) was Sarah Meade. (too many Sarahs) so this family may have been his cousins.
My grandmother Clara talked a lot about her mother Sarah Dell (the illegitimate daughter of Sarah Dell Roberson) but she never mentioned her grandmother which makes me think that she never knew her
so I have a lot to think aboutnow.
I apologise if there are a lot of typos here, Ive just had cataract surgery!
once again thank you very much, I am very grateful to you
Best wishes,
Maureen

(lol, wonderful thing, google search!)

Chris :)

Wel, that's a new one on me. Haven't seen that site before. :-)

(Catherine, see some on below)

Chris :)

http://www.genealogy-specialists.com/threads/looking-for-sarah.6730/

Checked Sarah's siblings to see if she turned up with them:-

Charles looks to have died in 1842

Name: Charles Dell
Registration Year: 1842
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Uxbridge
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3
Page: 260
..........................................................
John looks also to be in Leighton Buzzard
1851
Name: John Dell
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Apprentice
Gender: Male
Where born: Mosbridge, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Linslade
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County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Apprentice Bricklayer
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 1756
Folio: 242
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mead 36
Sarah Mead 32
Stephen Mead 12
Frederick Mead 10
Mary Ann Mead 9
John Mead 3
John Dell 16

living next door is a William Dell (occupation Bricklayer)
Name: William Dell
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Mosbridge
Civil Parish: Linslade
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County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Bricklayer
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 122
Piece: 1756
Folio: 242
Page Number: 28
Household Members:
Name Age
William Dell 21 (on original age looks to be more than 21).....
...................................................................................
1851
Name: Mary Dell
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Uxbridge, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Wellingborough
Ecclesiastical parish: Peterborough
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Town: Wellingborough
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: General Servant
Registration district: Wellingborough
Sub-registration district: Earls Barton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 27
Piece: 1743
Folio: 457
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
William Woolston 36
Maria Woolston 30
Mary Woolston 7
William Woolston 5
Sabina Woolston 3
Henry Woolston 6 Mo
Frederick Gravely 32
Maria Gravely 25
Fanny Collins 30
Charles Bonson 21
Edwin Green 16
Lucy Ryes 28
Mary Dell 20
Eliza Palford 20
.......................................................

Mary also finished up in Leighton Buzzard as you know married to Charles Stairs

Name Mary Dell
Registration Year 1851
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district Leighton Buzzard
Parishes for this Registration District Leighton Buzzard
Inferred County Bedfordshire
Volume 6
Page 154
Household Members
Name Age
Elizabeth Banes
Mary Dell
Thomas Smith
xxxx Charles Stairs xxxx

and in 1861 with her niece:- (just to get a

Name: Mary Stairs
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: 1832
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles Stairs
Gender: Female
Where born: Nebridge, Middlesex, England
[Uxbridge, Middlesex, England]
Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 1005
Folio: 110
Page Number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Stairs 29
Mary Stairs 29
Mary J Stairs 8
John C Stairs 4
Thomas W Stairs 2
Sarah Ann Stairs 10/12
xxxx Sarah Dell 15 xxxx

Will check the boys in 1861

(snippets)

Chris :)

18 April 1843 - Perry's Bankrupt Gazette - London, London, England

Insolvents
Dell John, of Uxbridge, bricklayer - Debtor' s Prison


02 March 1844 - Windsor and Eton Express - Windsor, Berkshire, England

Death
On the 29th ult., at Uxbridge, Mrs. Sarah Dell, aged 41

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census TranscriptionHigh Street Bell Yard, Hillingdon, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England



John Dell Male 35 1806 Bricklayer Born in County No

Sarah Dell Female 35 1806 - Born in County No

Willm Dell Male 15 1826 Bricklayer Bornin County No

Sarah Dell Female 13 1828 Middlesex, Born in county Yes

Mary Dell Female 10 1831 Middlesex, Born in County Yes

Jno Dell Male 7 1834 Middlesex, Born In County Yes

Charles Dell Male 3 1838 Middlesex, Bornin County Yes

If that is her baptism.........

4 siblings

Marian Dell in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Marian Dell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Nov 1826
Father's name: John Dell (Bricklayer)
Mother's name: Sarah Dell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


Mary Dell in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Mary Dell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1831
Father's name: John Dell (Bricklayer)
Mother's name: Sarah Dell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript



John Dell in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: John Dell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 27 Jun 1830
Father's name: John Dell (Bricklayer)
Mother's name: Sarah Dell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript


Charles Dell in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Name: Charles Dell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 20 Nov 1836
Father's name: John Dell (Bricklayer)
Mother's name: Sarah Dell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon
Register Type: Parish Registers

Just checked the 22:09 marriages that Catherine found

1868 Father given as Robert Roberson
1875 Father given as James Wheeler

?
Marriages Jun 1868 (>99%)
Cook James Pancras 1b 265
Padwick William John Pancras 1b 265
Roberson Sarah Pancras 1b 265
West Mary Ann Pancras 1b 265

?
Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)
Acres Benjamin Islington 1b 390
Roberson Sarah Islington 1b 390

sarah could be living with a man and using his name but not married

????

Name: Sarah Robertson
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Registration Year: 1878
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Wandsworth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 482

for ref:-
Sarah's father is John Dell

Name: Sarah Dell
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Age: 20
Spouse: George Roberson (widower)
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 May 1848
Parish: St Margaret, Uxbridge
Borough: Hillingdon
Father Name: John Dell
Spouse Father: William Roberson
Register Type: Parish Register

.....................and if this is her baptism, then mother is Sarah

Name: Sarah Dell
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Nov 1827
Father's name: John Dell
Occupation:- Bricklayer
Mother's name: Sarah Dell
Parish or Poor Law Union: Uxbridge St Margaret
Borough: Hillingdon
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

malyon ...............

I think that Sarah is wrong

First, there is no marriage for a Richard Carter to a Sarah in Middlesex between 1851 and 1861.

Second, there were 2 marriages for a Richard and a Sarah between 1841 and 1851.

This is, I think, the same couple that you found, but in 1851 ............ when Sarah Dell was with George Roberson.

Richard was a Labourer in 1861

1815 Census

Name: Sarah Carter
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Richard Carter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hillingdon, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Hillingdon
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County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Uxbridge
Sub-registration district: Hillingdon
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c

Household schedule number: 120
Piece: 1697
Folio: 115
Page Number: 32

Richard Carter 27 Rail Labourer
Sarah Carter 27

this could be sarah

Sarah Carter
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name
Sarah Carter
County
Middlesex
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1861
Event Place
Cowley, Middlesex, England
Registration District
Uxbridge
Residence Note
Cowley Fields New Hillingdon
Gender
Female
Age
32
Marital Status
Married
Relationship to Head of Household
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated)
1829
Birthplace
Uxbridge, Middlesex
Page Number
12
Registration Number
RG09
Piece/Folio
766 / 9
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Richard Carter
Head
M
33
Uxbridge, Middlesex
Sarah Carter
Wife
F
32
Uxbridge, Middlesex