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Carol
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7 Nov 2016 10:40 |
I know for certain that this is my Great Grandfather, and his wife was called Rosinea,/ rosina/ and also spelt Rosennah the last piece of information was the census 1891 whereby they were shown to be living in Montague Road, Leytonsone, E11. Rosina was born in Portsmouth in 1861 or thereabouts. But I can find no record of their marriage, not Benjamin that can be certain of, There is a William H Watts who may be his father but I cant be sure. How can I find out about their marriage etc/
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MargaretM
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7 Nov 2016 10:58 |
Is this the family in 1891? Although the address is 2 Gladstone Terrace. Terrible mistranscription!
Rosaria Waste
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Name: Rosaria Waste Age: 30 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Benjamin Waste Gender: Female Where born: Portsmouth Civil Parish: Leyton Ecclesiastical parish: Leytonstone St John County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1347 Folio: 118 Page Number: 41 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Waste 30 Rosaria Waste 30 Burdamin Waste 5 Florence D Waste 1 Richard S Hance 20 Joseph Segar 24
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MargaretM
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7 Nov 2016 11:03 |
Possible?
Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) Dwight Hannah Whitechapel 1c 758 ***LANCE Rosenia Whitechapel 1c 758 MUZZLEWHITE Stephen Whitechapel 1c 758 ***Watts Benjamin Whitechapel 1c 758
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Carol
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7 Nov 2016 11:07 |
well thats a bit of a flyer, as I would never have looked for Waste! the is a loose connection as the name Joseph Segar is also on the 1891 but this time he aged 20- as is Florence D who again is aged 1 in the census for Montague Road, who how comes they can be in two places at once?
the census RG!" polia 118 page 41 pie no 1347
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MargaretM
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7 Nov 2016 11:08 |
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Benjamin Watts
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Name: Benjamin Watts Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Age: 24 Spouse: Rosenia Lance Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1884 Parish: All Saints, Mile End New Town Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: William Watts Spouse Father: Richard James Lance Register Type: Parish Register
He's a porter as are both fathers, his father deceased.
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Carol
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7 Nov 2016 11:10 |
Margaret, that is a possibility.. that Rosenia surname was LANCE and if she Married Benjamin Watts thats at least a link, but now I cant find a birth for LANCE????
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Maddie
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7 Nov 2016 11:16 |
could this be her parents ???
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Pelham Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard J Lance Head Married Male 47 1844 Railway Porter Gosport, Hampshire, England Transcription Rosenia Lance Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
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MargaretM
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7 Nov 2016 11:21 |
We're looking at the same 1891 census, Carol, folio, page and piece numbers are the same. The address is 2 Gladsone Terrace but the top of the page reads Montague Rd.
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Maddie
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7 Nov 2016 11:21 |
Richard James Lance
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Richard James Lance Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: 1843 Marriage Date: 17 Dec 1865 Marriage Place: Saint Marys,Portsea,Hampshire,England Spouse: Rosina Brooker FHL Film Number: 919755, 919756, 919757, 919758, 919759, 919760
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Carol
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7 Nov 2016 11:23 |
seems highly possible maddie, but it still doesn't answer why they appear on the 1891 census as waste not watts and in two different places... but thanks for your help though :-)
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Maddie
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7 Nov 2016 11:24 |
1871 Name: Roseina Lance [Rosina Lance] Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Richard Lance Mother's name: Roseina Lance Gender: Female Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Portsea Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Portsea Island Sub-registration district: Landport ED, institution, or vessel: 35 Household schedule number: 77 Piece: 1144 Folio: 32 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Richard Lance 28 Roseina Lance 26 Roseina Lance 7 Anna Lance 46 Charles Brooker 19
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Mary
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7 Nov 2016 11:29 |
Benjamin Richard Watts 1888 V04A P234 mum nee lance.
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MargaretM
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7 Nov 2016 11:32 |
It's just a mistranscription on the 1891 census, Carol, if you look at the original it's very difficult to read. And they're not in 2 different places Gladstone Terrace is on Montague Rd.
This seems to be Rose's parents and brother in 1881. At the same address but a boarder with another family is Benjamin Watts.
Rosina Lance
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Name: Rosina Lance Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Relationship to Head: Wife Spouse: Richard Lance Gender: Female Where born: Spitalfields, Middlesex, England Civil Parish: Mile End New Town County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 29 Buxton St Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Whitechapel ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 440 Folio: 103 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Richard Lance 37 Rosina Lance 38 Richard Lance 9
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Maddie
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7 Nov 2016 11:35 |
??? Benjamin Watts
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Benjamin Watts Gender: Male Baptism Date: 1860 Baptism Place: Leytonstone, St. John Baptists Church, Essex, Eng Father: William Henry Watts Mother: Maryanne FHL Film Number: 1564140 Reference ID: - 2:2X5X3WG
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription High Street Brewers Yard, Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Hy Watts Head - Male 50 1821 - Essex, England Transcription Mary A Watts Wife - Female 40 1831 - Essex, England Transcription William H J Watts Son - Male 18 1853 - Essex, England Transcription Richard T Watts Son - Male 16 1855 - Essex, England Transcription Thomas Watts Son - Male 15 1856 - Essex, England Transcription Charles Watts Son - Male 14 1857 - Essex, England Transcription Mary Ann Watts Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Essex, England Transcription Benjamin Watts Son - Male 10 1861 - Essex, England Transcription Anne Watts Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Essex, England Transcription George Watts Son - Male 4 1867 - Essex, England Transcription Erskin Watts Son - Male 3 1868 - Essex, England Transcription Albert Watts Son - Male 1 1870 - Essex, England Transcription Rebecca Ellis Mother-In-Law - Female 73 1798 - Essex, England Transcription Elizabeth Watts Daughter - Female 7 1864 - Essex, England
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Maddie
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7 Nov 2016 12:27 |
England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription Print transcription First name(s) William Henry Last name Watts Name note - Marriage year 1851 Marriage date 1851 Marriage place Leytonstone Father's first name(s) Robert Father's last name Watts Spouse's first name(s) Mary Ann Spouse's last name Ellis Spouse's father's first name(s) John Spouse's father's last name Ellis Residence Leytonstone, Essex, England County Essex Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain
1841 Church Lane, Lower Leyton, West Ham, Essex, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place Robert Watts Male 55 1786 Essex, England Transcription William Watts Male 20 1821 Essex, England Transcription Henery Watts Male 15 1826 Essex, England Transcription James Watts Male 15 1826 Essex, England Transcription Rosa Watts Female 20 1821 Essex, England Transcription Ester Watts Female 20 1821 Essex, England Transcription Sarah Watts Female 50 1791 Essex, England
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Kayak
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7 Nov 2016 13:52 |
Baptism for William Henry Watts
William Henry Watts England Births and Christenings Name William Henry Watts Gender Male Christening Date 09 Dec 1821 Christening Place Leyton, Essex, England Father's Name Robert Watts Mother's Name Sarah
and with parents in 1851 census:
William H Watts England and Wales Census, 1851 Name William H Watts Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Event Place Leyton, Essex, England Registration District West Ham Gender Male Age 29 Occupation Labourer Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1822 Birthplace Leytonstone, Essex Page Number 22 Registration Number HO107 Piece/Folio 1769 / 175 Affiliate Record Type Household Household
Robert Watts Head M 62 Barking, Essex Sarah Watts Wife F 59 Leytonstone, Essex William H Watts Son M 29 Leytonstone, Essex
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