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Think I may need to throw in the towel on this one, there's too many possibilities on her name - Jackson or Thompson, Mary or Elizabeth or Lizzie. Also farm service could be a red herring as she was forced to leave school at age 12 to help support family so her days in service could have been considerably earlier that 1911.

One thing I do know, she wasn't with her soon to be husband or his family as I have them in 1911.

Many thanks for all your help, really appreciate your time :-D

Hi Flip

I thought that might rule out those 2 :-D

Thanks Sylvia, I think that rules them out. Mary Elizabeth was born in Preston as Jackson in 1892 as previously posted. Think this is a different person.

Also, that census from 1911 relates to Roose hospital which was the local work house & infirmary (where her father died much later). It was always Roose in the census info.

Looking at the new GRO Indexes, this looks like that Elizabeth Thompson in Flip's last post

THOMPSON, ELIZABETH -
1894 M Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E Page 803

No mmn, so illegitimate child of a Thompson


Same for Frank Thompson

THOMPSON, FRANK -
1910 J Quarter in BARROW IN FURNESS Volume 08E Page 788

Thanks Gins, the other Thompsons on the census are no connection (that I know of) and I can't find a death for Frank so not sure what to make of that. Just have doubts as birth place for Elizabeth Thompson is also wrong, and there is this birth on cumbria bmd in 1893 (1894 according the freebmd, but cumbria bmd relies on birth date rather than when registered),

THOMPSON Elizabeth Barrow Cumbria Certificate Services B/64/378

The census that Andy posted. The 10 month old child is a boy and this is the transcription



Name Frank Thompson

Relationship Inmate

Sex Male

Age 0
Birth year 1911

Birth place Barrow in Furness

Address Roose Barrow In Furness

Parish Barrow in Furness
County Lancashire

Archive reference RG14
Registration district number 482
Enumeration district 51

Other Thompson' on the same census: Janet 63y James 16y (both Scotland)

OK Andy, don't think it's her then unless Hannah died before my mum was born in 1913 as she never mentioned a sister. Mum was the one who told me about Bob Thompson living with them and she thought of him as her brother, although she knew he was her uncle.

Incidently, John Robert Thompson got called Bob because grandad was John as was my mother's brother (he was known as Jack) so too many Johns in the household!

Further to my post.......

This Elizabeth appears to have a 10 month old daughter Hannah with her.

Andy

Quite right Flip. I should have checked


Births Sep 1892
Thompson Elizabeth Mary Kendal 10b 730

I think that;s a coincidence Gins, she stayed married to my grandfather till he died in 1962, and lived at 31 Earle Street Barrow till she moved in with us and died in 1974. I have them (and my parents) on the 1939 register, and have checked through the local ERs.

I don't think she went abroad Gins, her grandparents went ot America but I don't believe she ever did.

Looks promising Andy, it's the nearest found for her - is there anything else on the record?

I know you have other info but I couldn't help but notice this and wondered if this is the correct lady, reverting back to 'Thompson' ?


Thompson Household (5 People)
River Bank Garnett Bridge , South Westmorland R.D., Westmorland, England

Lizzie M (Elizabeth Mary) Thompson 09 Jul 1892 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 60 3
Mathew H Thompson 12 Aug 1882 Male Builder & Contractor Single 60 1
Samuel R Thompson 08 Apr 1894 Male Rockman State Quarrier Single 60 2
Ellice (Elizabeth) Pearce (Fletcher) 20 Jun 1902 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 60 4
Brian Croft 27 Dec 1933 Male At School Single 60 6

Witnesses to marriage werr Thomas Jackson (presumed her father) and Ann Eliza Kerr (John's sister)

And yes Alvigal, I think that's too far away - I'd not want to walk it!

???

A Farm Servant. In the workhouse......

Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Barrow in Furness
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County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
>>>>>Occupation: Farm Servant
Registration district: Barrow in Furness
Registration District Number: 482
Sub-registration district: Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel: 51
Piece: 25701

Andy

Did she go overseas for a short time? No other info available on the image

Name LIZZIE JACKSON

Title MISS

Age17

Birth year 1893

Marital status S

Occupation DOMESTIC

Departure year 1910

Departure day 28

Departure month 9

Departure port LIVERPOOL

Destination port PHILADELPHIA

Witnesses?

Dea x

Could this be her? Too far away from Barrow, I suspect.


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Ryddings Bolton Abbey Skipton, Draughton Bolton Abbey, Yorkshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Richard Hagar Head Married Male Farmer 41 1870 Yorks Bolton Abbey
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Mary Ellen Hagar Wife Married Female Assisting In The Business 35 1876 Yorks Feizon
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Mary Hodgson Hagar Daughter - Female School 7 1904 Yorks Bolton Abbey
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Betsey Stockdale Hagar Daughter - Female School 6 1905 Yorks Bolton Abbey
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Margaret Benson Hagar Daughter - Female - 0 1911 Yorks Bolton Abbey
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Christopher Wood Hagar Son - Male - 0 1911 Yorks Bolton Abbey
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Ellen Henson - - Female Visitor 50 1861 Nottingham Nottingham
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>>Mary Elizabeth Thompson Servant Single Female General Servant Domestic 19 1892 Lancs Preston
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Dora Watson Nurse Girl - Female Nurse Domestic 15 1896 Lancs Liverpool
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Francis Hardirty Servant Single Male Farm Servant 20 1891 Yks Addingham
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George Reynoldson Servant Single Male Farm Servant 18 1893 Hensleydale Bainbridge
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John William Reynard Servant Married Male Shepherd 40 1871 Yorks Skyreholme

Hi Dea, she married John Kerr on 4/12/1912 at St Georges, Barrow under the name of Jackson. But named her father as Thomas Jackson although he was Thomas Thompson, so a little lie I think.

Thanks Shirley

Thats the right family, when her mother died in 1916 John Robert (Bob) came to live with Lizzie and her husband John Kerr.

I do remember her saying she was in farm service at some point - but have no idea when or where other than she walked home at michaelmas so must have been in walking distance of Barrow!

What name did she marry under and who did she marry please?

Do you have the marriage cert/ - If so, what were the addresses, occupations, fathers and witnesses etc?

Dea x