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Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2016 12:42

I have this family from 1881 census

Name: James William Hardy
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William Hardy
Mother: Susannah Hardy
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester
Civil Parish: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 4 Bennetts Court
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Ancoats
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3978
Folio: 91
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hardy 35
Susannah Hardy 27
Jane Louise Hardy 2
James William Hardy

There is something written against the entry for James William Hardy and crossed out. Also something written above his age. Can anyone decipher them, please?

Please D'ONT try to find a birth or any other records for him This is the only evidence of his existance I can find. The surname should be Raper, Hardy is Williams middle name. He was also previously married so James could be from this marrige or could be son of his wife before marriage which was 1878, if that makes sense.

Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2016 12:45

Not meaning Months was it?...(mistake)

Chris :)

(as below, FMP)

1881
William Hardy Head Married Male 35 1846 Umbrella Maker -
Susannah Hardy Wife Married Female 27 1854 Umbrella Maker Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Jane Louise Hardy Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Manchester, Lancashire, England
James William Hardy Son Single Male 0 1881 - Manchester, Lancashire, Englan
Alexander Kealing Boarder Widower Male 60 1821 Cabinet Maker Ireland
House number 4
Street Bennetts Court
Parish Manchester
County Lancashire
Registration district Manchester
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 3978

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Nov 2016 12:52

it says 8 mons in age col. , then a crossing out of 8 months as it appears in wrong col.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Nov 2016 13:25

I agree with Maddie, definitely 8 months, originally written in female column, crossed out and put in male column.

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Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2016 13:30

Thanks for the input! Absolutely correct, it is months,

Just found him!

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
HARDYRAPER James William Manchester 8d 255

This family is driving me nuts.

Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2016 13:45

Oh there!, well done!.

Chris :)

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1878

RAPER Jane Louisa Hardy CROSSLEY Market Street Archives+, Manchester Central Library MST/73/31


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1880

HARDYRAPER James William CROSSLEY London Road Archives+, Manchester Central Library LRD/88/38

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2016 14:07

That makes five children from this marriage. Now traced life of four. Just James to go.


Andy

Maddie

Maddie Report 16 Nov 2016 14:25

in case you don't have it
Frances Annie Hardyraper

in the Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915
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Name: Frances Annie Hardyraper
Birth Date: Sep
Baptism Date: 15 Oct 1884
Parish: Oldham, St Peter
Parish as it Appears: St Peter, Oldham Road, Manchester
Father's name: William Hardyraper ---- umberella maker
Mother's name: Susannah Hardyraper
Reference Number: M299/1/4/1
Item Number: 3
Archive Roll: 860

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2016 18:15

(also below, not sure if you have)

Chris :)

All Manchester, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1915 (Ancestry)

Anna Maria Harchiaper
3 Nov 1886 Oldham, St Peter
William Harchiaper,
Susannah Harchiaper
(Born 26 Sept. Abode, 10 Foundry Street, Oldham Road. William occ. Umbrella maker)

Edits

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1886

RAPER Hannah M H Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/191

Births Dec 1886 (>99%)
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Raper Hannah Maria H Manchester 8d 282

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2016 18:46

Thanks Chris, I hadn't found that one.

Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Nov 2016 19:01

(wondering if below related)

Chris :)

Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1883

RAPER Joshua Hardy 1 Saint George Archives+, Manchester Central Library STG/124/61


Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882

RAPER Joshua Hardy Chorlton-on-Medlock Archives+, Manchester Central Library


Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Raper Joshua Hardy Chorlton 8c 768

(Crossley on GRO Index)

Andrew

Andrew Report 16 Nov 2016 19:06

Yes thats another of their children.

Also

Frances Annie Raper born 1884. She made it to adulthood. Three of her siblings died in childhood-2 where buried on the same day. Still to find what happened to James, can't find him after 1881.


Andy