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Thanks for your replies Mel.

Charles was baptised on 16th March 1819 at St Catherine's Burbage.

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Baptism
Name: Chas . Jaques
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1815
Baptism Place: Saint Mary DE Castro,Leicester,Leicester,England
Father: Thos. Jaques
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 585274

Name: Jas . Wm . Jacques
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 7 Apr 1844
Baptism Place: Higham On The Hill,Leicester,England
Father: Chas. Jacques
Mother: Martha
FHL Film Number: 585280

Thanks all for your replies. Their first child was James in 1844.

Chris

Name: Jane Jacques
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Age: 30
Spouse: William Bennett
Spouse Age: 45
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 11 Jan 1883
Parish: St Philip, Battersea
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Charles Jacques
Spouse Father: Robert Bennett
Register Type: Parish Register

Chas . Jacques

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Name: Chas . Jacques
Gender: Male
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1819
Marriage Date: 20 Apr 1843****************************
Marriage Place: Higham On The Hill,Leicester,England
Spouse: Martha Brown
FHL Film Number: 585280

They married in 1843, so doubt that Catherine


Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)

BROWN Martha Hinckley 15 103 Scan available - click to view
JACQUES Charles Hinckley 15 103 Scan available - click to view

On the 1871 census both Sarah and Jane are maids in a very large household. Sarah is a laundry maid and Jane is a scullery maid.

Jane Jaques
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Higham, Leicestershire, England
Civil Parish: Warfield
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Easthampstead
Sub-registration district: Bracknell
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 92
Piece: 1295
Folio: 15
Page Number: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
John H B Lane 42
Susan A Lane 38
Agnes M J Lane 6
Florence L S Lane 5
John H H V Lane 3
Constance E J Lane 1
Cecil Newton Lane 37
William I F Ramsden 25
Charles Phipps 33
George Austin 23
Ebenezer Long 23
Charlotte North 47
Jane Coles 35
Eliza Chick 14
Julia Cockbile 22
Elizabeth Warner 23
Sarah Jaques 20**********************
Charlotte Wilson 18
Emma Wilson 20
Susan Lines 19
Jane Jaques 18*************************

Catherine- they'd already had another daughter ,Sarah Ann, before Jane.

When did Charles and Martha marry?

Could Jane have been the daughter of Martha and she was registered under her mother's name but they baptised her under the name of Jacques

Births Mar 1852 (>99%)
Brown Jane Leicester 7a 200

A tree on ancestry has her under the name of Jacques with mother as Martha Brown?

Marriages Jun 1843 (>99%)
BROWN Martha Hinckley 15 103 Scan available - click to view
JACQUES Charles Hinckley 15 103

So that was before the birth or baptism of Jane.

I'd agree with AustinQ, think they are the same person and there was a change of mind over the name. Sometimes happened but often it was an extra name added by the time of the christening.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Elizabeths birth was register on the 13th September 1852 by her mum Martha.

I was wondering if they were one and the same but thought I'd ask for advice.


Chris

1861 mistranscribed

Name Jane Ingnes
Age 8
Estimated Birth Year 1853
Relation Daughter
Father's Name Charles Ingnes
Mother's Name Martha Ingnes
Gender Female
Where born Higham, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish Higham on the Hill
County/Island Leicestershire
Country England
Registration district Hinckley
Sub-registration district Hinckley
ED, institution, or vessel 10
Household schedule number 62
Piece 2261
Folio 74
Page number 10
Household Members
Name Age
Charles Ingnes born Warwickshire
Martha Ingnes
Sarah A Ingnes
Jane Ingnes
Charles Ingnes
Emma Jaques
Geo Jaques
Susa Jaques

I think they are the same.

England Births and Christenings
Name Jane Jacques
Gender Female
Christening Date 10 Oct 1852
Christening Place HIGHAM ON THE HILL,LEICESTER,ENGLAND
Father's Name Charles Jacques
Mother's Name Martha

What date was Elizabeth's birth registered, and who by? Maybe they simply changed their minds between registering and the christening.

They may have been twins and one was born dead??

Can anyone please help me to find the birth record for Jane. This is the family


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Village Street, Higham on the Hill, Hinckley, Leicestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Jaques Head Married Male 42 1819 Farm Labourer Warwickshire, England
Martha Jaques Wife Married Female 42 1819 Labourers Wife Hinckley, Leicestershire, England
Sarah A Jaques Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Higham, Leicestershire, England

>>>>>>Jane Jaques Daughter - Female 8 1853 Scholar Higham, Leicestershire, England

Charles Jaques Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Higham, Leicestershire, England
Emma Jaques Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Higham, Leicestershire, England
Geo Jaques Son - Male 3 1858 - Higham, Leicestershire, England
Susan Jaques Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Higham, Leicestershire, England

I have found birth records for all the children I've found for the couple, on one the surname was spelt Jeaques, but cannot find one for Jane, no baptism record for Elizabeth.

Having checked the GRO indexes online using surname and MMN Brown I found another daughter last week. The certificate I received today confirms the correct parents. Elizabeth Jacques born 26th August 1852. This date is very close to the baptism record I have found for Jane who was baptised at Higham on the Hill on the 10th October 1852

Charles and Martha had another daughter in 1861 who they also named Elizabeth but I haven't found a death for the first Elizabeth, were parents in the habit of having more than one living child with the same name.

I believe Jane is in Berkshire in 1871 and in Hanover Square London in 1881 but I cannot find Elizabeth born 1852.

Are Elizabeth and Jane one and the same or am I missing something?

Chris