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Fmp street check please

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brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 16:07

Is it possible to check a street in 1841 on FMP please? If not, no worries!
I am trying to see if there is anyone called Street or Banner living on Henry St. Duddeston (Aston/Birmingham).
Many thanks.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Nov 2016 16:47

I don't have an FMP sub, but from Ancestry, there's this family. Not on Henry Street, but at Coleman (Court ?). I think the Darretts may be a different household.


John Banner
in the 1841 England Census
Name: John Banner
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 6
Folio: 27
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
John Banner 45 - brass [something]
Thomas Banner 14
Sarah Banner 12
Frederick Darrett 22
Rebecca Darrett 20
Joseph Darrett 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Nov 2016 16:51

This one's in Portsmouth Street. He's a watchman (?)

John Banner
in the 1841 England Census
Name: John Banner
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 4
Folio: 25
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Banner 35
Hary Sandford 25
Thomas Price 35
William Knight 50

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 22 Nov 2016 16:51

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Henry Street Court (8), Aston, Warwickshire, England

James Banner Male Carter 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
Harriet Banner Female 40 1801 Warwickshire, England
John Banner Male Glass maker 15 1826 Warwickshire, (think image says age 45)
Henry Banner Male 15 1826 Warwickshire, England
Thomas Banner Male Brass Founder 14 1827 Warwickshire, England
George Banner Male 9 1832 Warwickshire, England
Benjamin Banner Male 6 1835 Warwickshire, England
Alfred Banner Male 4 1837 Warwickshire, England
Edwin Banner Male 1 (16 months) 1840 Warwickshire, England

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 22 Nov 2016 16:52

Nothing coming up for surname Street on FMP

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Nov 2016 16:55

Yes, this family is on Henry Street. James is a carter, John is a glass maker, Thomas is a Boy something - can't make it out:


James Banner
in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Banner
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 11
Folio: 43
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Banner 40
Harriet Banner 40
John Banner 15
Henry Banner 15
Thomas Banner 14
George Banner 9
Benjamen Banner 6
Alfred Banner 4
Edwin Banner 1 4 Mo


EDIT:
Snap, AQ!

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2016 16:56

There are nine 1841 census records on FMP of Banner's living in Henry Street Court, Aston, Warwickshire.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 22 Nov 2016 16:58

PH, they're all in the same household

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 22 Nov 2016 17:01

Thank you Austin.

I will go sit on the bottom of our stairs.

:-D

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 22 Nov 2016 17:05

Good girl PH! Sorry if it sounded harsh :-D

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 17:17

Thank you very much everyone. The family is definitely the right one, but the person I am looking for isn't with them it seems.

His name was James Street born 1820, illegitimate son of Harriet, who then married Mr. Banner. James seems to have used either surname after this.

James married Eliza Eccleston(e) prior to 1841 census, using surname Street, then nipped off! The address on the cert is Henry St., hence my query. I just wondered if he might be with his family.

I have everything about him bar where he is in 1841! He appears as James Banner 1851 onwards.

He was a glassblower, just in case anyone goes looking!

Jan x :-( :-(

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 17:35

Please could someone check this? The image is terrible, but I think his occ just might be glassblower? Thank you! x

1841 England Census

Name: James Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Tutbury
Hundred: North Offlow
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

View image
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Tutbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 976
Book: 25
Folio: 17
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Fanny Hodgkinson 15
Ann Redfern 55
William Croxall 5
William Kosley 20
James Banner 20
John Staton 20
William Turner 35

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 17:42

Posting marriage in case they are with her family (is this the one?)

First name(s) James
Last name Street
Name note -
Marriage year 1840
Marriage date 28 Jul 1840
Marriage place Aston Juxta Birmingham
Spouse's first name(s) Eliza
Spouse's last name Ecclestone
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain


Where and when was Eliza born please?

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 17:50

Wow, that's very faint but definately Glass Blower for me.

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 17:54

This looks to be Eliza, with her family but no sign of James

1841
Name: Eliza Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Female
Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1149
Book: 5
Folio: 12
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
James Eccloston 55 - (looks like) Gun Stocker
Ann Eccloston 55
William Eccloston 15

Eliza Banner 20
William Banner 6 Mo

John Somers 3

(Did they have a son William?)

Address could be Heneage Street ?

Or is it Henery Street?

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 18:00

Thank you Catherine, I though so! Pinned him down at last I think.
Much appreciated.

Re. Eliza, I have all her family details, parents siblings etc., so please don't trouble yourself with trying to research this.

I can't find her after 1841 though, if you fancy a challenge! She seems to have also adopted the banner name at this point, though son William reverts to Street in 1851 & 1861.

Just be aware I might have posted about her before, but for the life of me can't find the thread (even if it exists!).

1841

Name: Eliza Banner
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821

Where born: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Hundred: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston and Nechells

James Eccloston 55
Ann Eccloston 55
William Eccloston 15
Eliza Banner 20
William Banner 6 Mo
John Somers 3

Jan x

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 18:01

Sorry, we crossed posts there! :-)

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 18:03

Here's William from 1841 census in 1851 with his grandparents

Castle Yard, Aston Street, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

James Eccleston Head Married Male 66 1785 Gun Stocker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ann Eccleston Wife Married Female 67 1784 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
William Street Grand Son - Male 10 1841 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
John Summers Lodger - Male 12 1839 Gun Stocker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Christopher Harris Lodger Married Male 34 1817 Tailor Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Harris Lodger Married Female 39 1812 - Bemerton, Gloucestershire, England
John Harris Lodger - Male 5 1846 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Emma Harris Lodger - Female 3 1848 - Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England

Catherine

Catherine Report 22 Nov 2016 18:06

Oh, yes so we did. :-D

I have to go and get dinner ready now so will maybe have a look later.

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Nov 2016 18:06

Catherine, thanks for that. I have William up till 1861. He disappears after this.
As I say, if you need a challenge, any trace of Eliza after 1841 or William after 1861 would be very much appreciated!
Jan x