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6 Jan 2017 23:54 |
Trying to locate descendants of Asher Jurd. Parents were George & Caroline Jurd.
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7 Jan 2017 06:25 |
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Which one on above link?...
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(presuming Parents below)
Marriages Mar 1881 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------- JURD Caroline S. Stoneham 2c 67 JURD George S. Stoneham 2c 67
Births Sep 1885 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- Jurd Asher Emery S. Stoneham 2c 48
JURD, ASHER EMERY (EMERY) GRO Reference: 1885 S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 48
Deaths Mar 1971 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- JURD Asher Emery 22Jy1885 Southampton 6b 2055
http://www.plimsoll.org/images/1925resd_tcm4-165107.pdf
(1925. Asher Emery Jurd. 53, St. Monica rd. Sholing)
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7 Jan 2017 08:05 |
1939 Register
Jurd Household (2 People) 2 Seaward Road , Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England
Asher E Jurd 22 Jul 1885 Male Labourer (Building) Married 413 1 Eliza J Jurd 22 Feb 1879 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 413 2
Ref: RG101/2292K/009/5 Letter Code: ECBZ
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7 Jan 2017 08:25 |
JURD, EDITH (EMERY) GRO Reference: 1879 J Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 58
(above in household also on 1939. Single (1/5/79)
Apologies, at 1, Seaward Rd., with what looks to be below couple perhaps?)
Marriages Jun 1906 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- HARDING Edward S. Stoneham 2c 125 (5/9/82) (on 1939) JURD Elizabeth S. Stoneham 2c 125 (27/7/81)
JURD, ELIZABETH (EMERY) GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 65
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Kucinta
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7 Jan 2017 13:55 |
HI Chris,
Have you actually found Asher Jurd with Caroline and George in a census? I can only find an Ashley Jurd (no middle initial) c 1885/86 with parents Asher and Elizabeth
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
New Cottages, Shoting Lane, Hound, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
Asher Jurd Head Married Male 41 1850 Labourer Botley, Hampshire, England Elizabeth Jurd Wife Married Female 43 1848 - Botley, Hampshire, England Edith Jurd Daughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Botley, Hampshire, England Elizabeth Jurd Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Botley, Hampshire, England Arthur Jurd Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hound, Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<<<<Asher on the census image
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Old Cottage, 1, Ludlow Road Sholing Lane, Sholing, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England Asher Jurd Head Married Male 50 1851 Gardener (Domestic) Hampshire, England Elizabeth Jurd Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Hampshire, England Edith Jurd Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Hampshire, England Asher Jurd Son Single Male 15 1886 Dairy Man Sholing, Hampshire, England<<<<<<<<<<
Same birthplace as Asher married to Eliza for under 1 year in 1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Ash Cottage Church Road Sholing, Itchen, Hampshire, England
Asher Jurd Head Married Male Railway Contruction Labourer 26 1885 Sholing Near Soton Hants <<<<<<<<<<< Eliza Jurd Wife Married Female - 32 1879 North End Near Soton Hants
EDIT: Eliza and Asher have same birth years as in the 1939 register
Marriages Jun 1910 Jurd Asher Emery S. Stoneham 2c 142 MILLS Elisa Jane S. Stoneham 2c 142
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Patricia
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7 Jan 2017 13:57 |
Thanks Chris. My mother was illegitimate daughter of Florence Jurd, sister to Asher. Florence went on to marry Jerimiah patrick Murphy so that side of the family areprobably unaware of my side. Must say that the Murphy road has been particularly difficult to put it mildly. If you are connected, May I have access to your tree please?
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Kucinta
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7 Jan 2017 14:01 |
I still don't see an Asher Jurd with Caroline and George for parents, just the one with Asher and Elizabeth as parents :-S
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7 Jan 2017 14:05 |
George and Caroline in census 1901, no Asher:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 25, Victoria Road, Hound, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
George Jurd Head Married Male 40 1861 Coachman Not Domestic Hedge End, Hampshire, England Caroline Jurd Wife Married Female 42 1859 - Hedge End, Hampshire, England Edith Jurd Daughter Single Female 18 1883 Servant Domestic Sholing, Hampshire, England William Jurd Son - Male 13 1888 Groom Boy Hampshire, England Florence Jurd Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Romsey, Hampshire, England <<<<<< Sidney Jurd Son - Male 7 1894 - Romsey, Hampshire, England Beatie Jurd Daughter - Female 3 1898 - Hound, Hampshire, England Mabel Jurd Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Hound, Hampshire, England
Nor in 1891:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Palmerston Street, Romsey Extra, Romsey, Hampshire, England George Jurd Head Married Male 31 1860 Brewers Drayman Hedge End, Hampshire, England Caroline Jurd Wife Married Female 32 1859 - Hedge End, Hampshire, England Edith Jurd Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Hedge End, Hampshire, England Emily E Jurd Daughter - Female 5 1886 Scholar Hedge End, Hampshire, England William Jurd Son - Male 2 1889 - Hedge End, Hampshire, England Florence Jurd Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Romsey, Hampshire, England<<<<
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7 Jan 2017 14:10 |
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 56 Butlocks Heath Netley, Hound, Hampshire, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place George Jurd Head - Male Gas House Stoker 51 1860 Hants Hedgend Transcription Carline Jurd Wife Married Female - 53 1858 Hants Hedgend Transcription Edith Jurd Daughter Single Female Servant Genrel Domestic 29 1882 Hants Sholling Transcription Birty Jurd Son - Male School 13 1898 Hants Netley Hound Transcription Marble Jurd Daughter Single Female School 11 1900 Hants Netley Hound Transcription Arther Greenol Ian Jurd Son - Male - 4 1907 Hants Netley Hound Transcription Ellen Jurd Granddaughter - Female - 3 1908 Hants Netley Hound
9 children born 9 living married 30 years
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7 Jan 2017 14:16 |
I've looked at the 1911 census safc posted, and Arthur Greenol Ian Jurd definitely seems to have been written as Arthur and not as an Asher, can't find a birth for an Asher c1907, unless it's been mistranscribed in FreeBMD.
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7 Jan 2017 14:30 |
(Sorry Kucinta, didn't get to search Census this morning)
Not related Patricia, just helping out!.
Chris :)
(saw below)
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) Asher Last name Jurd Birth year 1885 Birth date 22 Jul 1885 Event year 1891 School name Sholing School Town Southampton County Hampshire Parent name(s) Asher
(also below?)
First name(s) Florence Last name Jurd Birth year 1891 Birth date 10 Jul 1891 Event year 1895 School name Netley Board/Council Infants School Town Netley County Hampshire Parent name(s) William (Residence, Victoria Rd.)
Births Sep 1890 (>99%) ------------------------------------------- Jurd Florence Romsey 2c 80
JURD, FLORENCE (JURD) GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in ROMSEY Volume 02C Page 80
Births Jun 1901 (>99%) ---------------------------------------------------------- JURD Florence May S. Stoneham 2c 68
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JURD, FLORENCE MAY (TARGETT) GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 68
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Kucinta
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7 Jan 2017 14:46 |
HI Chris,
My gut feeling, at least re Ashley Emery Judd, is that he is the child of Asher and Elizabeth, not Caroline and George, what you found seems to tie in with that Asher, but I don't know if Patricia has evidence of another Asher who might be a sibling to Florence...I assume something must make her believe there is a connection, but at the moment I'm just not seeing it. :-S
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7 Jan 2017 14:51 |
(not sure of things here either!, below as Patricia mentions)
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Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------- Jurd Florence Murphy S.Stoneham 2c 282 Murphy Jerimiah P Jurd S. stoneham 2c 282
Edits ('Old' below)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1069567
(Can anyone help? I am trying to find the descendants of Florence Jurd b.1892 married Jeremiah Patrick Murphy in 1919. They had at least 6 children one of whom was named Georgina b.1924. at that time the family were living in Liverpool. Having not found any descendants, I am inclined to think that they emigrated. I would be grateful for any info. Regards, Pat.)
Births Dec 1924 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Murphy Georgina Jurd Liverpool 8b 95
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Kucinta
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7 Jan 2017 15:03 |
Florence born Romsey 1890 is defo Caroline and George's child, at least according to the 1891 and 1901 censuses I posted, but there is no sign of an Asher with the family in those two censuses, and the child born 1907 in the 1911 census safc posted looks like an Arthur on the image as well as in the transcription.
Just wondering what Patricia's grounds are for believing Florence to have a sibling Asher, but I realise I may be missing something...
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7 Jan 2017 15:05 |
Well looking in 'Search All Member Trees', Florence varies!, all seem to have below...
Hedge End, Southampton
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