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Charles Henry Gibbs - Leicester 1849-????

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Adrian

Adrian Report 11 Jan 2017 10:28

Charles is my maternal great-grandfather. He married my great-grandmother Mary Jane Stanley in 1868 in Leicester [3rd quarter 1868 Vol.7A/339] then absconded in 1881 to Stroud, where he got married again to Louisa Perrott in Gloucester [2nd quarter 1885 Vol. 6A/499]. There does not seem to have been a divorce, unsurprisingly, but he was tried for neglecting to maintain his first marriage children in Leicester in 1881! I would love to hear from anyone who knows Charles from either of his two families, so I can find out what actually happened. My grandmother never talked about it!

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 11:29

Is this your Charles - for reference

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
GIBBS, CHARLES HENRY ROE Order
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in LEICESTER Volume 15 Page 127

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1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Frederick Street, Bedminster Bishport, Bedminster, Somerset, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Gibbs Head Married Male 40 1851 Tailor Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Louisa C Gibbs Wife Married Female 26 1865 - Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Louisa B Gibbs Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Albert E Gibbs Son - Male 1 1890 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
George Perrott Son In Law - Male 8 1883 Scholar Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Albert E Dormmett Brother In Law Single Male 17 1874 Tailor Presser Stroud, Gloucestershire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 11:42

To find other people who may have Charles in their tree go to "Search" top right of the page and the "Search all members trees". Enter your family details and if there is a match to someone else researching the same person it will show. You can then try contacting that person.

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 12:01

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Ship Court, 2, Redcliff Hill, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles H Gibbs Head Married Male 50 1851 Tailor Leicestershire, England
George E Jerrott Step Son Single Male 18 1883 Grocer's Porter Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Albert E Gibbs Son - Male 11 1890 School Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Charles H Gibbs Son - Male 7 1894 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Louisa C Gibbs Wife Married Female 36 1865 Tailoress Stroud, Gloucestershire, England
Louisa B Gibbs Daughter - Female 13 1888 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Lilian M Gibbs Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Ivy Jane Gibbs Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

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1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 Ship Court Redcliffe Hill Bristol, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Charles Henry Gibbs Head Married Male Tailor - Maker 61 1850 St Margarets Leicester
Louisa Clara Gibbs Wife Married Female Tailoress - Baster 46 1865 Stroud Gloster
George Edward Perrott Stepson Single Male Fish Porter 28 1883 Stroud Gloster
Lillian Maud Gibbs Daughter Single Female Cigarrette - Maker 19 1892 Totterdown Bristol
Charles Henry Gibbs Son Single Male Street Iron Worker 17 1894 Totterdown Bristol
Ivy Jane Gibbs Daughter Single Female Paper Bag Maker 14 1897 Bristol St Lukes
Sidney Gibbs Son - Male School 6 1905 Bristol Redcliffe
Violet Gibbs Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Bristol Redcliffe

Married 26 years - 11 children born to marriage, 6 still living, 5 have died

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jan 2017 12:08

(saw below)

Chris :)

02 July 1881 - Leicester Chronicle - Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Neglecting his Children.
Charles Henry Gibbs was charged on remand from yesterday with neglecting his two children, whereby they became chargeable to the common funds of the Leicester Union. Mr. Thomas Wright appeared for the defendant, whose two children became chargeable on the 21st June. It was stated by Mr. Wright, that the defendant was perfectly willing to maintain his children. He was ordered to pay £2 14s for maintenance and expenses.

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 12:19

Possible death for Charles as you don't appear to have that from your heading

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) CHARLES H
Last name GIBBS
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1850
Age 67
Death quarter 3
Death year 1917
District BRISTOL
County Gloucestershire
Volume 6A
Page 24

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And for Louisa
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) LOUISA C
Last name GIBBS
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1864
Age 62
Death quarter 4
Death year 1926
District BRISTOL
County Gloucestershire
Volume 6A
Page 79

Neither appear to have left a will which went to probate.

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 12:36

You will probably never know exactly what happened. A great aunt of mine was abandoned by her husband who supposedly went to Canada - maybe a good story at the time which has been passed down. I have found him remarried in the next census (1911) a couple of counties away, with 3 children and with a further 9 to come!!

People fell out, weren't compatable etc and just parted as divorce was so expensive. There are many couples to be found either bigamously married or just living together as man and wife.

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 12:38

At least it looks as though Louisa was free to re-marry

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) GEORGE
Last name PERROTT
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1862
Age 21
Death quarter 2
Death year 1883
District STROUD
County Gloucestershire
Volume 6A
Page 204
Country England

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jan 2017 14:00

Louisa's first Marriage - maiden name Dommett

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
Dommett Louisa Clara Stroud 6a 551
Perrott George Stroud 6a 551

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Using the relatively new GRO site giving mmn pre 1912
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Have found 10 births Gibbs/mmn Dommett (with variations) 1885-1911 and 4 deaths
(1911 says 6/5). You may already have them.

Clara Louisa - b1886 Stroud - died 1886 Stroud
Louisa Beatrice - b1888 Bedminster - died 1903 Bristol aged 15
Albert Edward - b1890 Bedminster - alive 1901 - can't find 1911 or death pre 1911
Lilian Maud - b1891 Bedminster - alive 1911
Charles Henry - b1894 Bedminster - alive 1911
Ivy Jane - b 1896 Bedminster - alive 1911
Florence Ada - b1899 Bristol - died 1899 Bristol
Emily Ethel - b1901 Bristol - died 1902 Bristol
Sidney Thomas - b1904 Bristol - alive 1911
Violet Ethel - b1907 Bristol - alive 1911

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 11 Jan 2017 18:43

1883 perrett george Father stroud d3187/1/3/ Non-conformist

(Baptism from below, if anything else relating there)

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx

(Gloucestershire Archives - Genealogical Search)

Chris :)