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Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	20 Jan 2017 00:30
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	I'm trying to find James Leach and Maria Leach in the 1939 Register but not finding either. In 1911 census they were living in Chancel Street, Liverpool. They both died in 1941, James in April and Maria in May. James died at 241 Westminster Road, Liverpool. Maria died at the home of her eldest daughter, 139 Scholes Lane, St. Helens, but she wasn't there in 1939. Thanks.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 00:53
	You didn't give a birth date, which is VERY helpful to have Is this Maria's death in 1941?? Deaths Jun 1941 (>99%) LEACH Maria 73 St Helens 8b 1482 so born ca 1868?
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 00:56
	and James? Deaths Jun 1941 (>99%) LEACH James 76 Liverpool N. 8b 861 born ca 1865??
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10 049 Send Message	safc	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:05
	these are the only westminister road that come up on the 1939 register don't know why ? 7 results House name Street Borough / District County Country 127 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England Transcription (purchased) Image 355 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England 357 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England 359 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England 365A Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England 369 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England 369 Westminister Road Liverpool C.B. Lancashire England
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:07
	Did James die in a home?? I'm looking by address, and this has just come up for the street address ............. 241 Kirkdale Homes Westminster Road , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:12
	Yes ............ Kirkdale Homes at 241 Westminster Road was a home for the aged and inform. The address alone was often used on death certificates to hide the fact that someone had died in such a home. However, I cannot find James there in 1939. You may wish to search the register page by page. Just leave name boxes blank Put in Liverpool and hit enter Then when you get to the next page, click Search, and ther eis a box where you can put a street address.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:13
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yes, you have the correct James and Maria. James was born abt. 1865/66 - never been able to find his birth, and Maria was born in 1867. On James' death certificate it gives 241 Westminster Road as place of death. I Googled it and it said it was some kind of home. On the 1939 Register I searched by address but his name doesn't appear.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:15
	Could this be them?????? Lench Household (2 People) 29 Sleepers Hill , Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation Maria Lench 04 Oct 1867 Unpaid Domestic Duties James Lench 23 Jul 1865 Incapacitated (Blind) It does look like Leach on the image!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:17
	I used the wild card * Maria Le*ch with other inhabitant James
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:26
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Sylvia, you are brilliant. That's definitely them - 29 Sleepers Hill was where my Dad was born. Thanks so much.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:32
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Just had a look at the record and it actually gives his birth date but I can't find a record on findmypast ... any ideas?
Member Since: August 2007 Posts: 10 049 Send Message	safc	Report	20 Jan 2017 01:48
	???? is this james leach marriage Marriage: 25 Dec 1886 St Martin in the Fields, Liverpool, Lancashire, England James Leach - 21, Engine Driver, Bachelor, Latimer St Maria Muirhead - 19, Spinster, Latimer St Groom's Father: Joseph Leach, Stevedore Bride's Father: Thomas Muirhead, Engine Driver Witness: William Muirhead; Margaret Isherwood Married by Banns by: William Chaplin Incumbent Register: Marriages 1860 - 1896, Page 204, Entry 408 Source: LDS Film 1656206 and 1656207
	Researching: Abby says please do not send messages to safc, always reply on your thread, as Abby is just a paying member of genes reunited. helping other members. thank you.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 03:17
	I note that one of James and maria's children on the 1911 has Muirhead as a middle name ............. therefore the marriage that safc has posted seems very likely.
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 03:44
	Trying to identify James' parents According to the 1871, his parents are Joseph and Martha Martha is dead by 1881. Children in 1881are ......... Sarah E. Leach 21 LEACH, SARAH ELLEN IRELAND Order GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 7 Robert J. Leach 18 LEACH, ROBERT JOSEPH IRELAND Order GRO Reference: 1862 J Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 73 James Leach 15 John E. Leach 17 LEACH, JOHN EDWARD IRELAND Order GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 81 William Leach 13 LEACH, WILLIAM IRELAND Order GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 54 Martha Leach 10 strange ............ no James is showing up
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 03:50
	Found James' baptism!! But it is 2 years before the birth year he gives on the 1939 Register People did forget when they were born from lancs opc Baptism: 12 Apr 1857 St Matthias, Liverpool, Lancashire, England William Thomas Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Menai St Occupation: Sailor Baptised by: R Vinct Sheldon Register: Baptisms 1834 - 1926, Page 66, Entry 528 Source: LDS Film 1656207 Baptism: 31 Aug 1862 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Robert Joseph Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Menia St Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: Richd. Dandy Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 57, Entry 453 Source: LDS Film 1546106 Baptism: 31 Aug 1862 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Sarah Ellen Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Menia St Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: Richd. Dandy Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 57, Entry 452 Source: LDS Film 1546106 Baptism: 24 Apr 1864 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England John Edward Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Factory Building Kirkdale Occupation: Sailor Baptised by: Richard Dandy Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 73, Entry 584 Source: LDS Film 1546106 Baptism: 6 Aug 1865 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England James Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Factory Buildings Boundary St Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: Richard Dandy Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 84, Entry 667 Source: LDS Film 1546106 Baptism: 24 May 1868 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England William Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Sumner St Occupation: Mariner Baptised by: Richard Dandy Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 111, Entry 881 Source: LDS Film 1546106 Baptism: 31 Mar 1872 St Aidan, Kirkdale, Lancashire, England Martha Leach - [Child] of Joseph Leach & Martha Abode: Benbedi Street Occupation: Labourer Baptised by: Richard Dandy, Vicar Register: Baptisms 1856 - 1886, Page 142, Entry 1134 Source: LDS Film 1468979
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Jan 2017 03:54
	May be they just forgot to register his birth?? That did happen. There are several family trees on ancestyr which have James, and one of them has this under Birth Lewis Family Tree Birth 25 Jul 1865 • Liverpool, Lancashire, England Date of birth found in Joseph Henry Leach's bible The owner of this tree has photographs of James, Maria, and their children Martha Jane, Samuel, Albert Edward and Ida
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	21 Jan 2017 01:20
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Thanks for all the info. Sorry I'm so late getting back, been out all day. James was married to Maria Muirhead and all the above info is correct. I have been in touch with the owner of the Lewis Family Tree a while back and we have exchanged info - photos of James, Maria, etc., were provided by me. What I can't get my head around is why I can't find Jame's birth in findmypast. There are birth references for all his siblings but not him. Thanks.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46 063 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	21 Jan 2017 04:10
	Yvonne His birth is not on Freebmd, nor on the new GRO Index (which also has the mmn), nor on Ancestry The first place to look is Freebmd and then the GRO Index as they are the official Register Indexes. FMP and Ancestry have just taken (or later transcribed) the Freebmd Index. That is why I am saying that they did not register him at all!
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yvonne	Report	21 Jan 2017 05:09
Member Since: March 2005 Posts: 903 Send Message	Yes, I'd already checked those but what I can't understand is that they had nine children and eigfht were registered but James wasn't. It seems strange. Thanks for your help though.

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