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Jennifer
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9 Feb 2017 11:38 |
Hi could someone look up Charles Temple.He was living in Leith Scotland. What i am looking for is his wife Barbara's surname m.about 1860.b.about 1824,cant find it anywhere.Also William Temple his wife Susannah could be Susan,her surname.m. about 1867.b.about 1848.Norwich,Norfolk.Thank you so much.Jenny
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9 Feb 2017 11:49 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Hall Lane, North Walsham, Erpingham, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Temple Head Married Male 33 1848 Brazier Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England Transcription Susanna Temple Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription William Temple Son Single Male 15 1866 Ag Lab Bungay, Suffolk, England Transcription Charles Temple Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Lynn, Norfolk, England Transcription Barbara Temple Daughter Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Samuel Temple Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar North Walsham, Norfolk, England Transcription George Temple Son Single Male 1 1880 - North Walsham, Norfolk, England
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9 Feb 2017 11:49 |
TEMPLE, BARBARA LARTER Order GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 114
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2017 11:50 |
Sorry, Jennifer - neither of those marriages is coming up on Scotlands People.
Is this the family you mean?
Charles Temple in the 1861 England Census Name: Charles Temple Age: 37 Estimated birth year: 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Barbara Temple Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Castle Ward Town: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Piece: 1715 Folio: 41 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Charles Temple 37 Barbara Temple 37 - born Leith Charles Temple 14 - Lincolnshire Martha Temple 10 - Hull George Temple 6 - Hull
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9 Feb 2017 11:54 |
Charles's marriage was pre-1847, if this is him, and if he did actually marry Barbara.
Charles Temple in the 1851 England Census Name: Charles Temple Age: 28 Estimated birth year: abt 1823 Relation: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Westminster St John the Evangelist Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Registration district: Westminster Sub-registration district: St John ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 122 Piece: 1479 Folio: 437 Page Number: 39 Household Members: Name Age Henry Partington 41 Mary Partington 38 Robert Cooper 24 George Green 18 Briget Jones 38 Mary Jones 18 Felix Carlow 28 Mary Menge 26 Alleen Wright 20 James Tineren 22 Charles Temple 28 <<<<<<<<<<<<<< married Eliza William 18 William Temple 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Cambridgeshire Martha Temple 8 Mo <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Hull Eliza Pratt 21 Caroline Russell 21 Barbara Stark 27 - born Wales, so probably not the same Barbara
and many other lodgers
No birth showing in Hull for Martha 1851 +/- 2 on GRO
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2017 12:02 |
Already posted, Maddie - also 1851 for Charles and two of the children.
Marriage (if any) must have been before 1847. But can't see it anywhere.
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Feb 2017 12:03 |
Baptism County Norfolk Place North Walsham Church name St Nicholas Register type Transcript Register entry number 1916 Baptism date 02 Aug 1876 Birth date 14 Aug 1869 Person forename Charles Father forename William Father surname TEMPLE Father occupation Hawker Mother forename Susanna
Baptism County Norfolk Place North Walsham Church name St Nicholas Register type Parish Register Register entry number 1917 Baptism date 02 Aug 1876 Birth date 03 May 1873 Person forename Barbara Person sex F Father forename William Father surname TEMPLE Father occupation Hawker Mother forename Susanna
http://www.freereg.org.uk/
(if anything else relating, on above link)
Chris :)
http://tinstaafl.co.uk/nbp/Church_Pages/walsham_nth4.htm
(some Temple on above, also)
Baptism 08/06/1867 William Baker TEMPLE William TEMPLE Bricklayer Susanna
http://tinstaafl.co.uk/nbp/Church_Pages/fakenham4.htm
(items in Newspapers, are these Romany)
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Jennifer
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9 Feb 2017 12:47 |
So sorry i should have put need there maiden names.Sorry
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Jennifer
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9 Feb 2017 13:02 |
Yes Romany on my husbands side
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Maddie
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9 Feb 2017 13:14 |
Martha Clements
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Martha Clements [Martha Temple] Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Mother: Barbara Temple Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Hinckley Search Photos: Search for 'Hinckley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Hinckley St Mary Town: Hinckley County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Hinckley Sub-registration district: Hinckley ED, institution, or vessel: 04 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2961 Folio: 85 Page Number: 10 Household schedule number: 68 Household Members:
Name: Charles Temple Age: 37 Estimated birth year: 1824 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Barbara Temple Gender: Male Where born: Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Castle Ward Town: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bristol Sub-registration district: Castle Precincts ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Piece: 1715 Folio: 41 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Charles Temple 37 Barbara Temple 37 Charles Temple 14 Martha Temple 10 George Temple 6
Martha Clements
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Order death certificate for Martha Clements
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Name: Martha Clements Birth Date: abt 1850 Date of Registration: Sep 1921 Age at Death: 71 Registration district: Hinckley Inferred County: Leicestershire Volume: 7a Page: 70
Bracha Temple
in the 1911 England Census View 1911 England Census
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Name: Bracha Temple [Barbara Temple] Age in 1911: 89 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Leith, Scotland Civil Parish: Hinckley Search Photos: Search for 'Hinckley' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: 3 Lilley Yard Castle St Hinckley Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Hawker Registration district: Hinckley Registration District Number: 402 Sub-registration district: Hinckley ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Piece: 19011 Household Members: Name Age Bracha Temple 89 Martha Clements 61
barbara married 67 years, 7 children born, 6 survived
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Kucinta
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9 Feb 2017 14:50 |
RE Susanna's maiden name, Safc has already posted the birth for her daughter Barbara with mother maiden name LARTER
TEMPLE, BARBARA LARTER Order GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in NORWICH Volume 04B Page 114
a check on the GRO for son George, also in the 1881 census as born North Walsham, confirms this maiden name:
TEMPLE, GEORGE LARTER GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in ERPINGHAM Volume 04B Page 64
Erpingham R D Covers North Walsham
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Feb 2017 15:03 |
(another one)
Chris :)
TEMPLE, SAMUEL LARTER GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in ERPINGHAM Volume 04B Page 62
Baptism 18/01/1877 Samuel TEMPLE William TEMPLE Hawker Susanna 02/01/1877
http://tinstaafl.co.uk/nbp/Church_Pages/walsham_nth4.htm
TEMPLE, SUSANNAH (LAITER) GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in ERPINGHAM Volume 04B Page 53
(as with your Lee 'Thread', this surname not looking easy either!)
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2017 15:04 |
Deaths Sep 1912 (>99%) Temple Barbara 90 Hinckley 7a 67
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Kucinta
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9 Feb 2017 15:40 |
Looks like the reason little Susannah Temple that Chris found didn't make it to the 1881 census....
Deaths Mar 1876 Temple Susannah 1 Erpingham 4b 40
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Jennifer
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9 Feb 2017 20:27 |
Thank you all for all your help For finding Barbara's maiden name.[Larter] Still need to find Susannah's maiden name who married William Temple in 1860.jenny
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ArgyllGran
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9 Feb 2017 21:55 |
Jennifer - Susannah's maiden name is Larter.
We don't know the maiden name of Barbara who married Charles (if they married at all.)
There doesn't seem to be any record of Martha and George's births in Hull, nor of Charles jr's in either Lincolnshire or Cambridgeshire. If Charles and Barbara weren't married, maybe they were registered with a different surname. (But if so, I still don't see them.)
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Jennifer
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11 Feb 2017 08:22 |
Thank you all for your help.
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ArgyllGran
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11 Feb 2017 12:41 |
Without reading back through all this thread, I seem to think there was some mention of possible Romany links?
If that applies to the Temples, maybe they just didn't register the children's births - not sure if that would be possible.
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