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Can anyone please find the birth for this person please? I have searched and searched and can't find a birth at all.

His parents were Henry Hannabuss c1815 Butterleigh Cadeleigh Devon and Mary Ann Cosway c1813 Tiverton Devon. His siblings:-
Lydia 1847
Tom 1849
Emma 1852
Henry 1853
Phillip 1856 My grt grandfather
Pheobe 1858
Frank 1861

I have them on the 1841 census with Henry's father Phillip but can't find them on the 1851 when Tom/Thomas should be with them.


1841 England Census

Name: Henry Hannabass
[Henry Hannabus]
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England
Civil Parish: Butterleigh
Hundred: Cliston
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:Shoemaker

Registration district: Tiverton and Dulverton
Sub-registration district: Cullompton

Piece: 210
Book: 1
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillp Hannabass 60 1781 Butterleigh Devon Carpenter
Henry Hannabass 25 1816 Shoemaker
Mary Hannabass 20 Dressmaker

As you can see we get many variations of the surname as on the 1861 for Thomas.

1861Census
Name: Thomas Hanebus
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: 1849
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadeleigh, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Thorverton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Servant.
Registration district: Tiverton
Sub-registration district: Silverton
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Piece: 1476
Folio: 91
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pasmore 58
Ann Pasmore 66
James Pasmore 35
Martha Passmore 31
Charlotte Passmore 26
John Zelly 23
John Ware 17
Henry Adams 16
Thomas Hanebus 12*****************
Sarah Creek 17

1871 census RG10/2163 image 8 Tom is an apprentice Blacksmith to Henry Venn Master Blacksmith and a lodger with his family in Cheriton Fitzpaine Crediton Devon.
Name: Tom Hannabus
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Cadeleigh, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Cheriton Fitzpaine
Ecclesiastical parish: Cadbury
Town: Cheriton Fitzpaine
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration district: Crediton
Sub-registration district: Cheriton Fitzpaine
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 58
Piece: 2163
Folio: 26
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Venn 52 Master Blacksmith
Mary Venn 43
Emma Jane Venn 13
Alice Venn 8
Fannie Venn 6
Eva Blanche Venn 3
Tom Hannabus 20 Apprentist Blacksmith


Thomas married in 1879 to Alice Sophia Richards Islington Middx.

Name: Tom Hannabuss
Birth Year: abt 1852
Marriage Age: 27
Marriage Date: 2 Aug 1879
Marriage Place: Islington, London, England
Church: Hornsey Road Methodist Chapel
Father: Henry Hannabuss
Spouse: Alice Sophia Richards
Spouse Age: 26
Spouse Father: William Shakespeare Richards

1891 England Census

Name: Thomas Hannabass
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Hannabass
Gender: Male
Where born: Tiverton, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Johns
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 101 Marlborough Rd.

Occupation: FARRIER Employed.

Registration district: Islington
Sub registration district: Upper Holloway
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 142
Folio: 135
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hannabass 39
Alice Hannabass 37
Arthur Hannabass 10
Maud Hannabass 9**Alice Maud
Philip Hannabass 7

Sorry its so long and hope someone may find him on the 1851 thank you.

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Little Silver, Cadeleigh, Tiverton, Devon, England

Henry Hanabuss Head Married Male 35 1816 Cord Winder Butterleigh, Devon,
Mary An Hanabuss Wife Married Female 27 1824 Cord Wife Tiverton
Lydia Hanabuss Daughter Unmarried Female 3 1848 Scholar Cadeleigh
Tom Hanabuss Son Unmarried Male 1 1850 Child Cadeleigh
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Doesn't look like his birth was registered- I only see his siblings (Couldn't find birth for Henry either)

HANNABUSS, LYDIA mmn: COSWAY
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in TIVERTON AND DULVERTON Volume 10 Page 226

HANNABUSS, EMMA mmn: COSWAY
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 10 Page 294

HANNABUSS, PHILIP mmn: COSWAY
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 392

HANNABUSS, PHOEBE mmn: COSWAY
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 420

HANNABUSS, FRANK mmn: COSWAY
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in TIVERTON Volume 05B Page 425

could he have been a nephew?

These are the only GRO entries for the name Tom Hannabuss:

Births Dec 1845
Hannabuss Tom Tiverton 10 251
Marriages Jun 1867
HANNABUSS Tom Pancras 1b 108
Marriages Sep 1879
Hannabuss Tom Islington 1b 626
Deaths Jun 1896
Hannabuse Tom 44 Islington 1b 150

HANNABUSS, TOM mother BAKER
GRO Reference: 1845 D Quarter in TIVERTON AND DULVERTON Volume 10 Page 251

Marriages Jun 1843
BAKER Jane Tiverton &c. 10 423
HANNABUSS Thomas Tiverton &c. 10 423

The census ages are well off for a birth in 1845 -- but the age at death, 44 in 1896 -- is a match.

I assume that is his death -- Alice is a widow in 1901:

Alice Hannabuss 47
Arthur Hannabuss 20
Maud Hannabuss 19
Philip Hannabuss 19
Thomas E Davis 21
Frank Waters 19
Charles Colborne 32
John Jones 52

scratch that theory I guess, that Tom was with his parents in 1851

Thomas Hannabuss 34
Jane Hannabuss 33
Wiliam Baker Hannabuss 7
Tom Hannabuss 5
James Hannabuss 2
Mary Baker 11

perhaps he was the one who married in St Pancras in 1867

yes, in 1881 in Islington with wife Matilda

Morning all.

Well now Austin you have come up trumps again you clever chap. Thank you very much. Now why could'nt I find that. I had looked and looked and tried many spellings.

Yes I have all the births of the Cosway children except Thomas and Henry the same as you. It took me ages last night trying to find them on the GRO and when I looked on my tree I had already got them.

Joonie that other Tom Hannabuss is also mine in fact I think ALL Hannabuss's are mine wherever you look.

I'm getting old...........things are taking more time and its my birthday tomorrow......

Thanks all once again and I shall try to have a look at that 1851 census.

Mel x

Austin did you find the 1851 on Ancestry please? or FMP?

Can't find it on Ancestry.

Mel

This is the Ancestry version

1851 England Census

Name: Henry Hanabress

Age: 35

Estimated birth year: abt 1816

Relation: Head

Spouse's Name: Mary an Hanabress

Where born: Butterleigh

Civil Parish: Cadeleigh

Ecclesiastical parish: Exeter

County/Island: Devon

Country: England

Registration district: Tiverton

Sub-registration district: Silverton

ED, institution, or vessel: 1

Household schedule number: 7

Piece: 1888

Folio: 5

Page Number: 2

Henry Hanabress 35
Mary an Hanabress 27
Lydia Hanabress 3
Tom Hanabress 1

a servant and only 12yrs old spelt different

Thomas Hanabus
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name
Thomas Hanabus
County
Devonshire
Event Type
Census
Event Date
1861
Event Place
Thorverton, Devonshire, England
Registration District
Tiverton
Residence Note
Ford Village
Gender
Male
Age
12
Marital Status
Unmarried
Occupation
Farm Servant
Relationship to Head of Household
Servant
Birth Year (Estimated)
1849
Birthplace
Cadeleigh, Devon
Page Number
11
Registration Number
RG09
Piece/Folio
1476 / 91
Affiliate Record Type
Household
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
William Pasmore
Head
M
58
Stockley Pomeroy, Devon
Ann Pasmore
Wife
F
66
Cheriton Fitzpaine, Devon
James Pasmore
Son
M
35
Cheriton Fitzpaine, Devon
Martha Pasmore
Daughter
F
31
Cadeleigh, Devon
Charlotte Pasmore
Daughter
F
26
Cadeleigh, Devon
John Zelly
Servant
M
23
Halberton, Devon
John Ware
Servant
M
17
Poughill, Devon
Henry Adams
Servant
M
16
Silverton, Devon
Thomas Hanabus xxxxxxxx
Servant
M
12
Cadeleigh, Devon
Sarah Crook
Servant
F
17
Cruwys Morchard, Devon

is this Thomas's birth reg in mothers name Cosway was she not married yet

Births Jun 1850   (>99%)

Cosway
 Thomas
 
 Taunton
 10
471

My friend came as its my birthday tomorrow and stayed for ages.

Thanks Choccy I shall take another look. Its such a complicated name for spellings its a wonder I have got back to the 1400's.

Thanks too to Malyon for that birth but she was married to Henry 22 Aug 1846.

Thanks to all soooooooooooooooooooo much I just new you lot would come up trumps.

Another milestone over with the 1851 census as thats the only one with Tom with his parents and who'd have thought to look for Hanabress. I clearly says Hannabuss!!

COSWAY, THOMAS

Mothers maiden name BRICE

GRO Reference: 1850 J Quarter in TAUNTON Volume 10 Page 471

Think this must be the Thomas Malyon referred to.