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14 Feb 2017 02:21 |
Died in an RTA in 1967 in the Ashford Kent area. My recently discovered grand father. was married to my gran Patricia Maud Thorpe divorced soon after. He married an Annie F Winters and that's all I know pretty much
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14 Feb 2017 04:38 |
I have had a little dig around and it looks likely that this is George' birth
Births Sep 1921 Winters George D Mayers Poplar 1c 687
Given that the mothers name is 'Mayers', George had 6 siblings which you can find here if you add the surname of both parents with a date range from 1915 - 1929 http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl _________________________________________________________
And here is the marriage of the parents
Name: George Winters <<Boiler maker
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 21
Spouse: Ellen Catherine Mayers <<Factory Hand
Spouse Age: 20 Both of 16 Union Street
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Feb 1914
Parish: All Saints, Poplar
Father Name: Isaac Winters <<Bolier maker Deceased
Spouse Father: Daniel Henry Mayers <<Lighterman Deaceased
Parish Register
Wit: Charlotte Winters & John (can't make the surname out) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is also a Probate record for your grandfather which you can find here (To Annie Florence Winters)
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=Winters&yearOfDeath=1967&page=2#calendar
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Feb 2017 04:53 |
His death
First name(s) GEORGE D Last name WINTERS Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1922 Age 45 Death quarter 2 Death year 1967 District Ashford County Kent Volume 5F Page 40 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Deaths & burials Collections from Great Britain (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
He actually lived in south ockenden Essex Admin on his will was to Annie Florence his widow
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Gee
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14 Feb 2017 04:54 |
Mornin Shirley, you up early too!
The family are on FMP 1939 Register but I don't have full access to this
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Feb 2017 04:56 |
Yes up early . Drinking a coffee lol
Cat decided it was out time and wouldn't let me sleep lol
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14 Feb 2017 04:58 |
1939 REGISTER TRANSCRIPTION Winters Household (5 People) 14 Tupley Street , Poplar, London, England Start free family tree View original imagePrint FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION George D Winters 01 Jun 1921 Apprentice Boilermaker Shipyard George Winters 15 Jul 1892 Boiler Maker Shipyard Ellen C Winters 08 Jan 1894 Unpaid Domestic Duties Rosina D Cunningham (Winters) 07 Jul 1919 Mantle Machinist Charlotte A Winters 11 Sep 1923 Uniform Machinist Ref: RG101/0447B/007/15 Letter Code: © Findmypast Ltd
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14 Feb 2017 05:00 |
And here is your Grandfather with his family. His father is deceased by 1911
1911 Census Name:George Winters
Age in 1911:18
Estimated birth year:abt 1893
Relation to Head:Son
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Woolwich, Essex
Civil Parish:West Ham
Street address:7 Herbert Street, Plaistow E
Marital Status:Single
Occupation:Boiler Maker
Registration district:West Ham
Registration District Number:188 Sub-registration district:Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel:21 Household schedule number:100 Piece:9431
Household Members:
Charlotte Winters 43 Joseph Winters 20 Emma Winters 19 George Winters 18 Lottie Winters 17 Florence Winters 15 William Winters 13 May Winters 8 Charles Edwards 20
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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14 Feb 2017 05:01 |
Either cert will confirm his dads name
First name(s) GEORGE D Last name WINTERS Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1942 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ GEORGE D WINTERS married Patricia M Thorpe Spouse's last name Thorpe District Hendon District number - County Middlesex Country England Volume 3A Page 1946 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
First name(s) GEORGE D Last name WINTERS Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1953 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ GEORGE D WINTERS married Annie F Roach Spouse's last name Winters Or Roach Or Wright District Harrow District number - County Middlesex Country England Volume 5F Page 1254 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
Looks like she had been known as winters and had been married before too
Edit or maybe not as this is her birth note both surnames Births Dec 1919 Roach Annie F Wright Mile End 1c 603
but a coincidence
First name(s) ANNIE F Last name ROACH Marriage quarter 3 Marriage year 1943 Registration month - MarriageFinder™ ANNIE F ROACH married Clifford J Wright Spouse's last name Wright District Stepney District number - County London Country England Volume 1C Page 167 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2008 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Marriages & divorces Collections from Great Britain © brightsolid online publishing ltd
So looks like there was possibly a divorce and she returned to her maiden name to reammry
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14 Feb 2017 05:06 |
And this one Shirley (his first wife)
Household Shoreditch, London, England
Patricia Maud Humblestone (Snelling,Winters,Manley,Thorpe) 1924 John (G) Thorpe and 3 more people are on this record 4 more people who are officially closed
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14 Feb 2017 05:18 |
In view of where she was born this looks like her parents Marriages Jun 1911 Roach Charles T Mile End 1c 586 Wright Jane Mile End 1c. 587
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 49 Ernest St Mile End, Mile End Old Town, London, England
Charles Thomas Roach Head Married Male Dock Labour 33 1878 London Limehouse note aged 23 on image so born c1888
Jane Roach Wife Married Female - 22 1889 London Limehouse Transcription Charles Thomas Roach Son Single Male - 2 1909 London Limehouse Transcription Eliza Keemes Mother Married Female - 41 1870 London Limehouse Transcription Annie Florence Roach Sister Single Female - 1895. London lime house Confectionery Wrapper
Note he has a sister Annie Florence
Edit Charles t death confirms 1888 birth for age Deaths Jun 1964 ROACH CHARLES T 76 STEPNEY 5D 530
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14 Feb 2017 05:37 |
Births Dec 1894 Roach Annie Florrie Stepney 1c 418
Marriages Jun 1923 Roach Annie F Broomfield Mile End 1c. 528 Broomfield. George Mile End 1c 525
Note diff page nos these are both correct form the typed image so a typo on one of them
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14 Feb 2017 06:05 |
Thorpe Household (5 People) 24 Phipp Street , Shoreditch, London, England Start free family tree View original imagePrint FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION Patricia Maud Humblestone (Snelling,Winters,Manley,Thorpe) 14 Mar 1924 Machinist - Box Making John (G) Thorpe 28 Jan 1893 Jointers Mate (Electric) Alice Thorpe 05 Sep 1892 Unpaid Domestic Duties ?ely Ekler (Thorpe) 16 Jun 1920 Cardboard Box Maker Henry Ekler 04 Mar 1922 Labourer (Cabinet Makr) Ref: RG101/0499K/026/5 Letter Code: ATAU © Findmypast Ltd Open a closed record Request a living person's record Close an open record Report an error
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Brett
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14 Feb 2017 08:26 |
Thank you for all the replies it would be nice to see if there where any children from the marriage between George and Annie but it doesn't look like it
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14 Feb 2017 10:18 |
Annie Florence Winters in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Annie Florence Winters Birth Date: 10 Oct 1919 Date of Registration: Feb 1985 Age at Death: 65 Registration district: Thurrock Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 3850
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