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According to Ellis Island records a Barnett Moore (born Russia Malawa) aged 21 left Liverpool for New York in1907. The ships manifest stated his last permanent address was Liverpool and his contact was his brother J Moore of 140 or149 Smithdown or Southdown Rd. Address in NY was 225 Monroe St.
Russians had to stay in Liverpool for a minimum of 5 days before onward transfer to the US.
Any ideas on the following .
If Barnett had only been in Liverpool for 5 days would that count as a permanent address ?
Can anyone see him entering the UK or where he went in US ? I have looked and come up with nothing. Maybe a name change .
What happened to J Moore and what did J stand for ?
I know about Barnett Moore born 1910 Wallasey and Barnett c1937 NY. These are my husband's Uncle and cousin .
Given the name and country of birth of Barnett c1886 we wonder if this could be my husband's grandfather's brother and would like to try and track what happened to him.
Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

According to the record of his arrival in USA he was going to join friend Toby Solomon 221 Monroe St.

Thank you MargaretM. Don't know who Toby is but I'll try and find him on US census.

Looks like Toby was female, also from Russia:-

1920 US Census Transcription

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Birth place

Louis Soloman Self Married Male 65 1855 Russia
Toby Soloman Wife Married Female 65 1855 Russia

The address on the image looks like Monroe Street.

Louis immigrated to the United States in 1902 and Toby in 1913.

Neither could read or write.

*****EDIT - Just realised that this can't be the same Toby as she didn't arrive in USA until 1913.

Kath. x

he was a tailor

Barnett Moore

in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
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Name: Barnett Moore
Arrival Date: 28 Sep 1907
Birth Date: abt 1886
Birth Location: Russia
Birth Location Other: malawa
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Hebrew
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Baltic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Baltic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Thank you Kath, I was just looking at that until I realised the date.
Was assuming Toby a male until I started looking.

This one's a possibility in 1930:

Barney Moore
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Barney Moore
Birth Year: abt 1888
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Russia <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Cole Court
Ward of City: 2d AD
Block: E
House Number in Cities or Towns: 9
Dwelling Number: 176
Family Number: 498
Home Owned or Rented: Owned
Home Value: 10, 000
Radio Set: Yes
Lives on Farm: No
Age at First Marriage: 22
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Language Spoken: Yiddish
Immigration Year: 1907 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Owns Store
Industry: Tailor <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Barney Moore 42
Jennie Moore 38 - born Russia, immigration year 1909, married at age 18.
Israel Moore 19
Fannie Moore 17
Louis Moore 9

Thank you Maddie.
I'm sure I've just seen a Toby Solomon on familysearch who was a tailor in the right area of NY but now can't see it.

also this one a labouer

Name: Barnett Moore
Gender: Male
Age: 21
Birth Date: abt 1886
Departure Date: 19 Sep 1907
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Baltic
Search Ship Database: Search for the Baltic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Master: J B Ranson

Here's the tailor again in 1940:

Barney Moore
in the 1940 United States Federal Census

Name: Barney Moore
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Poland
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: New York, Kings, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Brighton 8th Street
House Number: 3035
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Kings, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 18B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 387
Occupation: Tailor
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 45
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: None
Class of Worker: Working on own account
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Barney Moore 51
Jennie Moore 49
Irving Moore 29 (same person as Israel in 1930 ?)
Louis Moore 18

Good find ArgyllGran.
Brooklyn would be a good area as my husband's grandfather Charles Mark Moore did a runner in 1917 and lived in Brooklyn with his 3rd (bigamous) wife.

Re the son Irving:

Irving Moore
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Irving Moore
SSN: 146105682
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1911
Birth Place: New York, New York
Death Date: 8 Apr 1986
Father: Barnie Moore
Mother: Jennie Blumenthal
Death Certificate Number: 069584
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Dec 1936: Name listed as IRVING MOORE

any of these

New York, State Census, 1925
Census & Electoral Rolls
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Name: Toby Solomon
Spouse: Louis Solomon
Birth: abt 1851 - Russia
Residence: New York, New York


California Biographical Collection: Responses to Vital Record Inquiries, 1822-1964
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
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Name: Toby Solomon
Birth: abt 1866 - Russia
Civil: 1 Oct 1890
Residence: San Francisco


Cook County, Illinois, Birth Certificates Index, 1871-1922
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name: Toby Solomon
Birth: Abt 1879 - Russia


1920 United States Federal Census
Census & Electoral Rolls
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Name: Toby Soloman
Birth: abt 1854 - Romania
[Russia]
Arrival: 1871
Residence: 1920 - St Louis Ward 1, St Louis (Independent City), Missouri


New York, State Census, 1905
Census & Electoral Rolls
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Name: Tobi Solomon
Birth: abt 1887 - Russia
Residence: Manhattan, New York

Louis, son of Barney and Jennie:

Louis Moore
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: Louis Moore
SSN: 067168612
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1921
Birth Place: New York City, New York
[New York Cit]
Death Date: Apr 1982
Father: Barney Moore
Mother: Jennie Blumenthaul
Type of Claim: Original SSN.
Notes: Jun 1939: Name listed as LOUIS MOORE

Thank you so much ArgyllGran and Maddie.
Can't believe I haven't found these.
All I need now is to find a record of Barnett's father's name.
According to the 3 marriage certificates I have for Charles Mark his could be , Charles Mark, James or just Charles.
I will look more into the details you have sent.

Carole

Have found a member with an Irving in his tree. Have sent e-mail and I hope I get a reply.
Did find a death entry for a Barney that seems to fit with the census records above but it states father's name as Solomon. Doesn't fit with my other info. for Charles though .Coincidence that it is Solomon !
Will keep looking.