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This one really has me stumped so I'd be glad of any help.
Daniel Scanlon, born 01/04/1886, married Mary A. Meade, born in 1879, Bedwellty district. They married in 1913 and had a daughter, Mary Theresa, on 26/04/1914.

I have the above info from Daniel's army records which also have his death certificate saying he died on 04/11/1939 in Neath, Glamorganshire but his widow is Margaret A. Scanlon. She was born on 18/08/1901 and died in 1982 in Neath. I have found them on the 1939 register with two daughters, Nancy, born on 30/06/1920 and Ellen, born on 20/04/1927.

It seems that Daniel's first wife died and he remarried but I cannot find a death record for Mary or a marriage to Margaret or birth records for the girls.

Please does anyone have any ideas or can anyone point out a glaring error I've made? I've been going round in circles with this all day.

Annie

Where do John & Patrick fit in ?

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Scanlon John Meade Bedwellty 11a 285
Scanlon Patrick Meade Bedwellty 11a 285

It does at least tell us that Mary A was still around in 1922.

Dea x

Not seeing births for the girls ,maybe they are Margaret's children by her first marriage

I think I've just found a death for Mary in 1922 so maybe Nancy was hers. Someone has a tree with her birth as 1891 but does not have Nancy or Ellen. I'm wondering if they were Margaret's and had their names changed to Scanlon when she married Daniel. They are definitely Scanlon in 1939. If Mary did die in 1922 this would be after Nancy's birth. I'm considering the fact that they may not have married at all.


Annie

That is the death I have just been looking at - in the same quarter as the birth of the twins ??

Deaths Mar 1922 (>99%)
Scanlon Mary A 31 Bedwellty 11a 214

Dea x

According to the 1939 reg Nancy is also James and Harrison

This looks like the marriage
Marriages Jun 1941
Harrison Frederick J James Neath 11a 2061
James Nancy E Harrison Neath 11a 2061

Note it's still Neath reg district

Her birth mmn also James

Births Sep 1920
James Nancy E James Neath 11a 2174

The 1922 death could fit with this birth. but OP says born 1879?

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Meade Mary Bedwelty 11a 121

Andy

Right qtr

Births Jun 1927
Milsom Ellen James Neath 11a 1527

Possibly
Marriages Jun 1924
JAMES Margaret A Milsom Croydon 2a 860
Milsom Thomas C James Croydon 2a 860

Possible death same area as marriage
Deaths Dec 1929
MILSOM Thomas C 39 Croydon 2a 389


So had she left him and gone back to Wales to have Ellen in 1927

That looks like it, Dea and Shirley. I assumed James and Harrison were married names because one has a date next to it, although it's illegible. I found that too, Andrew and that's what started the confusion. Thank you all for looking.

Annie

That looks very much like it, Shirley. I wish I'd asked for help sooner now.


Annie

Margaret's birth could be any of these

Right qtr for an August birth

Births Sep 1901
JAMES Margaret Ann Bedwelty 11a 126
JAMES Margaret Ann Pontypridd 11a 590
JAMES Margaret Ann Cardigan 11b 3
JAMES Margaret Ann Swansea. 11a. 1088


It would seem she wasn't married to Daniel as there's no James. or Milsom marriage to Scanlon


First name(s) MARGARET ANN
Last name SCANLON
Gender Female
Birth day 18
Birth month 8
Birth year 1901
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1982
District Neath
County Glamorganshire
Volume 27
Page 1404
Country Wales

I doubt they were married too, Shirley. Also, the 1891 birth for Mary isn't correct. The 1881 census has her there at two years of age and I know the parents there are hers - John and Catherine Meade (nee Nagle), both born in Ireland. She was Mary Ann, not Agnes. The 1879 birth date does not tie in with the 1922 death record, though, which gives her age at death at 31. Curiouser and curiouser.

Annie

If this is the correct Thomas Milsom, it looks like Margaret wasn't his first wife. The record is very feint and difficult, if not impossible, to read.


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First name(s) Thomas Charles
Last name Milsom
Age 36
Birth year 1886
Birth county Surrey
Birth country England
Service number -
Regiment Queen's Royal Regiment
Unit / Battalion 4th Battalion
Year 1922
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'
Archive The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain
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Marriages Dec 1914
Milson Thomas C Rastall Croydon 2a 559
RASTALL Mary Milson Croydon 2a 559



If this is his wife's death, he remarried pretty sharpish but he did have young children.

Deaths Mar 1924 (>99%)
Milsom Mary A 36 Croydon 2a 503

Everything points to Daniel being married to Mary Agnes (daughter of John & Bridget) b c 1891 not Mary Ann b. c1879 ..................


The marriage to Daniel just shows her as Mary so where do you have the proof from that she was Mary Anne (birth reg. Abergavenny) , daughter of John & Catherine ?

Thanks,

Dea x