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David Martin Kelly circa 1887 Newtownards NI

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Dee

Dee Report 27 Mar 2017 13:14

Thank you everyone for all your help, I really appreciate your time.

Sorry if I'm not posting on the right threads, I rarely use this site and am unsure how it works for you enthusiasts... I wouldn't have obtained much on my town, so I really am grateful to you all.

Dee :-)

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Mar 2017 08:48

Eringobragh, the other thread was asking about the children of David Martin Kelly but , as usual, us nosey helpers took the line further back :-)

It would have been better if Dee had added her question to the other thread. Not to worry. No great harm done.

Researching:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Mar 2017 08:39

Didn't know she had another thread posted....!!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 23 Mar 2017 08:31

Malyon, to save you looking for census, they were posted on Dee's other thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1365341

Researching:

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 23 Mar 2017 07:37

Malyon......That's where it got a bit confusing...!!!
If you look at the original all crossed out and mixed up....
Samuel John Kelly is Head of house and running the grocers shop plus being a farmer......he is one of the sons of Samuel Carson Kelly who is living at this time (1911) with Ann Beckett (Mother-in-Law) and wife Mary Ann at 24 Francis St.

A Robert Gaw Kelly married Margaret Moffatt 27th October 1897 in the Co Tyrone.
He is living Regent St Running the Grocers shop there

malyon

malyon Report 22 Mar 2017 21:18

this could be Samuel c Kelly in 1911 was born 1846

david martin Kelly born 1987 is his brother but that cant be the age gap is to big to be his brother

Residents of a house 32 in Francis Street Little (Newtownards Urban, Down)
Show all information
Surname
Forename
Age
Sex
Relation to head
Religion
Kelly
Samuel C
64
Male
Head of Family
Presbyterian
Kelly
John Samuel
38
Male
Son
Presbyterian
Kelly
Minnie Gaw
36
Female
Sister
-
Kelly
Eleanor Jane
26
Female
Sister
Presbyterian
Kelly
David Martin
24
Male
Brother
Presbyterian
Kelly
John
11
Male
Nephew
Presbyterian
Strain
Wm Robert
27
Male
Servant
Salvation Army
Ross
Alexander
17
Male
Servant
Presbyterian
Sailes
Robert
34
Male
Brother in Law
Presbyterian

malyon

malyon Report 22 Mar 2017 20:40

I found this 1901 census with the names you mentioned for davids parents could be his brother and sister
_
Kelly
Eleanor Jane Gaw xxxxx
2
Female
Daughter
Presbyterian
Kelly
Robert Gaw
32
Male
Head of Family
Presbyterian
Stuart
Jane
23
Female
Servant
Episcopalian
Kelly
Samuel Carson xxxxx
1
Male
Son
Presbyterian
Kelly
Maggie Ann
30
Female
Wife
Presbyterian

malyon

malyon Report 22 Mar 2017 20:19

David Kelley
Ireland Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958
birth:
January 1887 / March 1887
Newtownards, Ireland

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Mar 2017 19:47

Been there and done that...!!!

A complicated family and no mistake.....Samuel Carson Kelly looks to have been married 3 times by 1911 Census.....Eleanor Gaw dies 1894.. wife of Samuel is a Margaret in 1901 but cant find a marriage/death and by 1911 he is living with wife Mary Ann and mother-in-law Ann Beckett..(.Marriage took place 18th October 1910)...not the same person "Margaret" on 1901 as Mary Ann is still living at home up the street from Samuel

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2017 18:50

How stupid am I - I hadn't noticed the "View image" link!
Thanks for that, Erin!

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 22 Mar 2017 18:44

Dee....The Birth is Reg.under Newtownards

Registered 9January 1887.
Mother Eleanor Jane nee Gaw.
Address Little Francis St.
Father Samuel...Grocer and Farmer

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2017 18:42

Those two births are under civil records.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Dee

Dee Report 22 Mar 2017 18:29

Thank you, just looked at this site, what category does it come under please?

Thank you for looking for me.

Kind regards
Dee

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2017 17:43

Have you ruled out these two births ?


Birth of DAVID KELLY in 1889
Group Registration ID 10951539
SR District/Reg Area Newtownards
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R


Birth of DAVID KELLEY in 1887
Group Registration ID 11615581
SR District/Reg Area Newtownards
Sex N/R
Mother's Birth Surname N/R


From this site:
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

You have to give your name, but it's free to search.
Parish records and civil records.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Dee

Dee Report 22 Mar 2017 17:32

Hi

From the information on 1901 & 1911 census I know that David Martin Kelly was born around 1887 in Newtownards and his parents were Samuel Carson Kelly 1846-1929 and Eleanor Jane Gaw (1845-1894).

However I have been unable to trace his exact birth details.

Can anyone please recommend a site for this?

Also is there a site for online parish records for Northern Ireland please?

Thank you for your time.

Deirdre (Dee)