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I cannot find any birth record of my great-grandmother Alice Syron. Have a copy of the marriage certificate between her and my great-grandfather which gives d.o.b. as 1869. I believe she was born in Birmingham. Her father was John Syron (gunfitter).
I thought that all births had to be recorded in 1869? Can anyone give me tips on where I may be able to find this record please?
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family for ref ?????????????
1881
6, Poplar Grove, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Patrick Syron Head Married Male 40 1841 Gun Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Caroline Syron Wife Married Female 36 1845 Char Woman Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Mary Ann Pension Step Daughter Single Female 21 1860 Domestic Servt Unemployed Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Flora Syron Daughter Single Female 14 1867 Scholar Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
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Alice Syron Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
father a gun maker but not John
marriage
Name: Alice Syron
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birth Date: abt 1869
Marriage Date: 23 Jul 1893
Marriage Place: Hockley, All Saints, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Hockley, All Saints
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Father: John Syron
Spouse: George Reynolds
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In England/Wales it was not compulsory to register births until 1875.
For various reasons a lot of people didn't bother (including my great grandfather, who had four unregistered children before he had to conform, in 1875!)
If she was still alive in 1939, you can get her dob from the 1939 register, on FMP. If you aren't a member, there are several people on here who will look for you.
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1851
has a brother John
Court 5 House, Drury Lane, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael Syron Head Married Male 39 1812 Builder Labourer Ireland
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Bridget Syron Wife Married Female 38 1813 - Ireland
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John Syron Son - Male 14 1837 Lamp Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Michael Syron Son - Male 12 1839 Gun Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Patrick Syron Son - Male 10 1841 At Home Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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George Syron Son - Male 1 1850 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Edward Farron Lodger Married Male 33 1818 Masons Labourer Ireland
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Mary Farnon Lodger Married Female 36 1815 Umbrella Maker -
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Emma Farnon Lodger - Female 8 1843 At Home Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Edward Farnon Lodger - Male 0 1851 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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Bates Debernan Lodger Married Male 29 1822 Masons Labourer Ireland
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Thomas Faines Lodger Married Male 28 1823 Masons Labourer Ireland
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James Welch Lodger Unmarried Male 45 1806 Masons Labourer Ireland
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Selina Syron Lodger Unmarried Female 26 1825 Bretton Maker Ireland
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1911
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9 Back 1 1/2 K Berley Street Birmingham, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Alice Reynold Wife Widow Female - 42 1869 Steward Street Dudward St Birmingham
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Fredrick Lynon Son Single Male Errand Man 19 1892 Camden St Birmingham
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George Reynolds Son Single Male Bind Cage Dipper 17 1894 Pope St Bham
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Alice Reynolds Daughter Single Female Japanner Cycle 15 1896 Brasshaire Porrage Bham
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Jack Reynolds Son Single Male Work Broadst 13 1898 Brass H Porrage Bham
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Harold Reynolds Son Single Male School 8 1903 Brass H Porrage Bham
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Amy Reynolds Daughter Single Female School 7 1904 Brass H Porrage Bham
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Alfred Reynolds Son Single Male School 2 1909 Broad St Bham
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Arthur Blencoe Lodger Single Male Bindcage Maker 18 1893 Johnson St Neashells
gives more detailed place of birth
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Parents not married until 1872?
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Jun 1872 (>99%)
SPENCER Caroline Birmingham 6d 64
SYRON Patrick Birmingham 6d 64
Andy
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Thank you all for your help. I did find Patrick Syron but not sure if he is Alice's father as it states on her marriage certificate (July 1893) that her father is John Syron, and he is one of the Syron family mentioned. It could possibly have been a copying error on the certificate as groom's father is also named John.
I did find the marriage details of Patrick and Caroline. It does seem strange that two brothers both had a daughter called Alice.
I cannot trace her through the 1939 register as I believe she re-married sometime after my great-grandfather's death in 1910.
I think I will have to accept that I will not be able to clarify this further!
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Patrick in 1881 census married caroline spencer in 1872 so could not be alices's father found this birth for a alice spencer could it be alice syron mother changed her name
Births Jun 1868 (>99%)
SPENCER
Alice
Birmingham
6d
12
Births Sep 1868 (>99%)
SPENCER
Alice
Birmingham
6d
46
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death for a john syron born 1837
Deaths Mar 1879 (>99%)
Syron
John
42
Birmingham
6d
32
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Birth 6d 12 mum maiden name Newton
6d 46 mum nee Bishop.
Maryb
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